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I liked this weeks episode. Why does Mr. Petrelli not want to wipe out Sylar like he did to Peter? Possibly because Sylar is easier to control?

Sylar is just a great character, I hope they don’t fuck him up! The last episode showed that he and Elle have a past and now it’s brought back.

It looks like Suresh is regretting things even more (it’s that’s possible).

Hiro with the mind of a 10 year old? Just when I started liking him again…

What does everyone think about this thing with the powers going away?

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[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
I liked this weeks episode. Why does Mr. Petrelli not want to wipe out Sylar like he did to Peter? Possibly because Sylar is easier to control?

Sylar is just a great character, I hope they don’t fuck him up! The last episode showed that he and Elle have a past and now it’s brought back.

It looks like Suresh is regretting things even more (it’s that’s possible).

Hiro with the mind of a 10 year old? Just when I started liking him again…

What does everyone think about this thing with the powers going away? [/quote]

it sucks, and hero was the only real good guy left, i’m not sure whos good, whos bad or what the fucks going on anymore.

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[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
The flashback episode while not completely enlightening was pretty good overall. The dad is just a heartless bastard! [/quote]

It was also interesting to see that Primatech was responsible for pushing Sylar into being a killer. Mr. Bennet makes him a killer and then later calls him a monster.

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[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
I liked this weeks episode. Why does Mr. Petrelli not want to wipe out Sylar like he did to Peter? Possibly because Sylar is easier to control?[/quote]

I’m trying to figure this out, too. I’m thinking because of Sylar’s past, Mr. Petrelli thinks that he’ll be more likely to follow him than Peter or Nathan would. Perhaps because of the nature of Sylar’s power Mr. Petrelli either is unable, or unwilling, to steal it.

Well, Sylar did have a kid in the future episode. Since the kid was only about 4 years old, he’d have to knock someone up pretty quick for that to happen. I’d have to think that Elle is the mother at this point.

Yeah, what was the point of the vision quest then? Immediately afterwards, they regress him to a child. He’s easily the most frustrating character on that show as far as development.

I’m not sure I like that. So every time there’s a solar eclipse, they either lose or regain their powers? Seems kind of weird that would be the trigger. Even if it’s only during total eclipses, that still seems kind of lame.

I wonder how Claire figures into all of this now. She’s the ‘missing ingredient’ to the formula. I still think she will somehow be involved with Peter getting his powers back.

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I thought this episode was okay. I really hope this loss of powers thing coming up next week is temporary. I also hate the fact that peter lost his powers. He finally manned up and started taking people out, and bam their gone.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
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Professor X wrote:
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And yes, it does smell like x-men. It almost has to, but not to this degree. I thought they were taking it in another direction, and I vastly preferred living with that illusion.

What other direction is there? X-Men has had decades to refine their own story lines and plots and have pretty much attacked every possible angle of how society would treat mutants.

I think it is a little strange for anyone to think they will come up with something completely original at this point that has never been touched on before in comics, tv or any other form of media.

I like Heroes for what it is…but I don’t expect them to break any new ground aside from simply not using costumes.

Good question. It’s hard to put into specifics, but the first season didn’t feel like I was watching live-action x-men. With some of the recent level 5 villains, it feels more like they’re just pulling these guys straight from the pages of a comic book instead of putting their own spin on things.

Like I said, there’s a pyro-clone, banshee-clone, and magneto-clone (I mean, okay, he’s german and not polish, but that’s close enough for government work).

I guess the bottom line is that I accept and expect some carryover, but I’d like the number of straight deja-vu moments kept to a minimum.

Still, to reiterate a post I made awhile back, it’s a lot better than everything else on tv, so the bottom would Really have to drop out before I stop watching.

I can understand that. But I also don’t see how they could really do this that differently without making the characters very boring. X-Men has done this backwards and forwards for half a century. I don’t think there is any possible “power” they haven’t covered in detail.

The only thing they have done with Heroes is make the Rogue clones (Peter and Sylar) more powerful than all the others where as Rogue would eventually lose most of the powers she absorbed.

I think keeping them out of costumes is a good idea…and I agree, it may be one of the better shows on tv right now.

I just don’t expect anything ground breaking from it.

I will say this, Hiro’s development is moving along way too slowly (considering what they foreshadowed before). [/quote]

I agree. The ideal time to start Hiro’s change from nerdy Hiro to badass was when Kaito was murdered by Adam. I really thought that this was the event that would tip Hiro over the edge.
I mean, when Hiro trapped Adam in the coffin, I thought that it was an unusually cruel move and quite out of character. It would’ve been the ideal time to give us a more hardened, cynical Hiro.

Just another missed opportunity, I suppose…

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To be honest, I’m starting to lose interest in the series. There’s too much forced ambiguity and mystery. They can never just flat out describe or show the events. I get tired of trying to remember if something actually happened or was a potential future.

How many more episodes to we have to hear about Daphne’s past that she “can never go back to”? What happened to Ando killing Hiro? Why was Peter born with his powers and Nathan had to be given his?

I don’t mind some cliffhanging and some twists, but you don’t need one for every single character.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m unfairly judging it. I just starting watching The Wire and it’s going to be hard for any show to come close to that. Then again, I’m not asking for The Wire, just a decent storyline.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
To be honest, I’m starting to lose interest in the series. There’s too much forced ambiguity and mystery. They can never just flat out describe or show the events. I get tired of trying to remember if something actually happened or was a potential future.

How many more episodes to we have to hear about Daphne’s past that she “can never go back to”? What happened to Ando killing Hiro? Why was Peter born with his powers and Nathan had to be given his?

I don’t mind some cliffhanging and some twists, but you don’t need one for every single character.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m unfairly judging it. I just starting watching The Wire and it’s going to be hard for any show to come close to that. Then again, I’m not asking for The Wire, just a decent storyline.[/quote]

This is kind of my problem with Heroes in general, especially with last season. It feels like a lot of the time, there are more questions than answers, characters that never seem to develop, and episodes that just kind of go nowhere.

I still like the show, but sometimes I wish they’d just get on with it.

You’re going to have a hard time finding something better than The Wire to watch though. From beginning to end I thought that series was excellent!

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
To be honest, I’m starting to lose interest in the series. There’s too much forced ambiguity and mystery. They can never just flat out describe or show the events. I get tired of trying to remember if something actually happened or was a potential future.

How many more episodes to we have to hear about Daphne’s past that she “can never go back to”? What happened to Ando killing Hiro? Why was Peter born with his powers and Nathan had to be given his?

I don’t mind some cliffhanging and some twists, but you don’t need one for every single character.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m unfairly judging it. I just starting watching The Wire and it’s going to be hard for any show to come close to that. Then again, I’m not asking for The Wire, just a decent storyline.[/quote]

I know what you mean. Sometimes it seems like the writers are monitoring public opinion on characters and storyline. If something is unpopular, whether it’s a character or plot point, it usually gets altered pretty quickly.

It seems like the writers feel the need to bring in new characters every other episode, when they should really be concentrating on developing the main ones.

Some of the characters serve no purpose other than being a cool special effect.

As you say, they need to streamline it and not rely on so many twists (if the writing was as good as in season 1, they wouldn’t have to resort to gimmicks). There’s just too much going on at one time to keep things consistent.

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[quote]AngryVader wrote:
malonetd wrote:
To be honest, I’m starting to lose interest in the series. There’s too much forced ambiguity and mystery. They can never just flat out describe or show the events. I get tired of trying to remember if something actually happened or was a potential future.

How many more episodes to we have to hear about Daphne’s past that she “can never go back to”? What happened to Ando killing Hiro? Why was Peter born with his powers and Nathan had to be given his?

I don’t mind some cliffhanging and some twists, but you don’t need one for every single character.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m unfairly judging it. I just starting watching The Wire and it’s going to be hard for any show to come close to that. Then again, I’m not asking for The Wire, just a decent storyline.

This is kind of my problem with Heroes in general, especially with last season. It feels like a lot of the time, there are more questions than answers, characters that never seem to develop, and episodes that just kind of go nowhere.

I still like the show, but sometimes I wish they’d just get on with it.

You’re going to have a hard time finding something better than The Wire to watch though. From beginning to end I thought that series was excellent!

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Yeah, I’m not looking for something as good as The Wire. But dammit! Why can’t Heroes just make a story and develop characters. The occasional time travel is fine, especially since it is Hiro’s power, but it doesn’t need to so damn loopy.

They’re treading dangerously close to the Skynet paradox with all this back and forth time traveling, but at least Terminator was a good complete story (for the most part).

I’m just left with too damn many questions that are only somewhat answered. It’s like the writers don’t want to close any doors in case they decide to write something else later.

I still have questions about season 1 that will probably never get answered. Actually season 1 was pretty good and mostly complete. Season 2 is where it started getting a little off. Thinking back to season 2, it almost seems like a wasted story. What the hell was the point? We didn’t find out shit about the elders(all their parents) and nothing was resolved.

Whatever, I’m just rambling now. I guess I’m just disappointed. It started out as such a cool show. I hope it can get back to that.

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Kind of a hum-drum episode I thought. I’ve never been a fan of Claire but I did think the scene where HRG puts a hurting on Sylar and Elle in less than 2 minutes was pretty good. Too much reliance on their powers!

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Yeah, last night wasn’t a good episode. It felt like by the time it got going it was already at the 50 minute mark.

I agree, the ‘Heroes’ don’t seem to have any skills outside of their powers. At least Parkman was a cop, so he’s not totally useless in a fight.

HRG is a bad ass compared to Sylar at the moment. Looks like HRG is looking to take advantage of the lack of powers.

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[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Yeah, last night wasn’t a good episode. It felt like by the time it got going it was already at the 50 minute mark.
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This needs to stop. I love the show but so little of actual consquence happens in the shows now. Season 1 was great, season 2 was mehh alright, and this season just leaves me wanting more but not in the good way.

On their websites, they have 2 minute catch-up videos for each show. It seems as if there is even filler in those =[

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I’ve liked some of the episodes this season, I don’t want it to sound like I don’t. I like this season better than the last. The way they are treating some characters is pretty irritating, Hiro, and Suresh are the ones where the personality now is not even close to the personality that was shown before.

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I watch it out of habit now, hoping every week that it’ll redeem itself. Kinda lost its luster for me, though.

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So far through this episode I could of told you exactly what was gonna happen -_- At least there is usually some sort of twist that kinda makes you go Ohhhh! It better redeem itself in the next twenty minutes

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Noah = worst assassin ever.

Couldn’t hit Sylar with a sniper rifle and a bigass scope? Ugh.

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Another blah episode. I thought it was better than last week, but still paced poorly. At a certain point, I found myself saying, “How long is this friggin eclipse going to last anyway?” The only interesting parts were in the last 10 minutes again.

I guess I was wrong about Elle being the mother of Sylar’s child.

Hey Higgins, what twist are you referring to? Are you talking about Nathan (presumably) deciding to join his father?

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[quote]AngryVader wrote:

Hey Higgins, what twist are you referring to? Are you talking about Nathan (presumably) deciding to join his father?

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Yeah, I sorta felt like that was coming with how he was acting on the trip in general. (Which was odd in its first place, he literally just changed how he felt about the situation between scenes I think)

I didn’t see it coming that Sylar was gonna kill Elle, or that Sylar wasn’t the Angela and Authur’s son, which I believe to be the truth.

Next weeks episode could be redeeming, bout time we had some fightin’.

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Ugh…this episode was pretty damn irritating and all over the place.

The part I liked best about the whole episode was in the comic book shop.