Makes sense. Kids aren’t a worry for me. Two disposable incomes with no kids is nice. If I have to shave my head then fuck it. Also, when I said last 6-8 weeks anavar/winny, I meant id add them the last 6-8 of the 10 week test/tren cycle. I look forward to trying it out. I’ve had great results with just test, but agree with you on its aesthetic. Running other compounds with it as just a base makes me look way better imo
It was my concern that you might be just changing from test and tren to Anavar and Winstrol. You should get some nice results with the total mix.
Just don’t put the time restriction on it. Youll end the blast when you are done. I never understood where the magic numbers of 8-12 weeks came from. For size it’s way too little time. For a cut it depends on how much you need to cut. What if you lose 1 pound a week, everything is going good but after 10 weeks you feel you need like 10 more? Why the time restriction up ahead? Just cut and stop when done.
I agree that it takes longer time to gain substantial muscle even with steroids / PEDs.
One could also do short blasts, with short cruises to get good results IMO. The result is a lot of time on. If using short esters, 8 weeks on, 4-6 weeks off could work if repeated for several years.
If you’re like me, and understand that for almost everyone, that to look huge and lean, you have to take a lot, and for a long time, then it starts making less sense. I didn’t get this starting out. Now I guess looking strong and athletic is where the use makes sense. TRT range cruise (roughly 150 mg T a week), with moderate test mostly blasts (although I’m still winning the t-nation test level contest lol. Moderation is subjective is my point). I don’t have any problem with people using more. It should be a personal decision (and legal). Just wasn’t for me.
I guess I’ve done this as a means of being somewhat health conscious. But I suppose I can base it more off overall feel and my blood panels than put a time limit on it
A TRT amount of testosterone and a small amount of Tren (if you tolerate it) with Var or Tbol at the end leading up to your event (or whatever thing you want to be lean for).
Don’t do too much of a cal deficit and you’ll retain plenty and lean up
I appreciate all the information and input from y’all, glad I signed up for the forum. I consider myself decently knowledgeable through studying the crap out of nutrition and PEDs and through the old heads that helped me get into PEDs. I think I get kind of “newbie” when it comes to cutting bc like I said previously I am terrified of getting small again. I know I’ll look bigger and better once I’m lean if I do it properly though. I’ll post pics at the end of this bulk and then will probably make a new topic thread to track the cut progress when it comes time!
The best part is that when you’re very lean you look even bigger, so just maintaining muscle is gonna mean you look better