25 yr old Male
5’7” 200 lbs
Not sure of BF% but at my weight I can still see my abs slightly coming through.
I have experience with test, tren, eq, dbol, and some sarms experience as well.
I started lifting when I was very small, 126lbs, and built up to 160 naturally. At 22 I started trying PEDs and was able to get to my now 200 while still being decently lean. Because I started so small I’ve been terrified of cutting, but finally want to commit to a hard cut and then focus on long term lean mass. Ultima has a test/tren/mast “cut blend” in two forms, 50/50/50 ace & prop, or 100/100/100 enanthate. I’ll have aromasin and caber on hand and will run cardarine to help with tren sides.
What is a good dosage for cut results?
Would you recommend the prop/ace or enanthate?
If using the 50 blend, do you recommend ED or EOD pins? I’ve only ever pinned twice a week so do y’all just rotate frequently or you use lower amounts?
Lastly, for fast fat loss and good muscle retention, what type of calorie deficit would you recommend since I’ll be enhanced?
No event currently. Time wise I have a few months to learn how to properly cut and prepare. I’m in the tail end of a bulk cycle right now and will be doing trt for up to two months. Whenever my bloods look normal I’ll be ready. For the cut it depends on which blend I use, 8-12 weeks I’m assuming
If there isn’t a contest to prepare for, I would not recommend cutting too deeply. That is, cut to the extent that you can see most all muscle separations. And don’t get to multiple muscles with distinct striations. Maybe deltoids, because they are usually the first muscle group to show striations. And you should achieve deep separation between the delts and triceps, especially on AAS.
Dialing in the “perfect” AAS blend for maximum definition seems unnecessary without a contest as the goal. Most any AAS combination can achieve nice definition if you learn how to control water retention.
I never used a target calorie deficit, but used what I have always called “The Idiot Diet”. I ate about the same everyday of “clean” foods starting 14 weeks out of a contest. I had a good idea what my maintenance food day looked like. At 12 weeks out I started AAS. I then began to remove a little carbohydrates slowly. At 12 weeks out I did a skin fold test. Every week I did another skin fold test. I was looking to drop mm’s a little. At the same time I had a strength metric to assure that I was not getting weaker. Watch the scale and strength, while removing enough carbohydrates for the skin fold mm’s to drop.
The skin fold test is used to calculate percent body fat. Don’t worry about the absolute value of the number. It is not a precision measurement method. But it is repeatable and will reliably show progress, or lack of progress.
IMO, unless you are prepping for a show you should not need the tren and mast. I would finish the cycle you are on. Drop down to 175-200/wk test and stay there for your cut. While you get your bloods back in check get your diet/maintenance calories figured out. Stay at maintenance for a few weeks to let your body stabilize and then begin your cut. My experience with cutting is a little slower over a longer term so I go in 200cal increments until a start to stall and then lower cals a bit more. I have had the best success without rebound using this method.
You also need to remember, your diet/training are what is going to get you results not drugs. Drugs will help retain the muscle.
Then I’ll make it a less aggressive cut and save that for when I do compete. My main goal with this is to just drop some fat I’m holding around my stomach. My delts almost always have some striation so maybe I can gauge that with the triceps. Do you have any recommendations regarding the dosage and whether I should go short or longer ester?
Not really. But I did drop testosterone cypionate (which was my preferred testosterone) two weeks out from the show. I switched to 100mg/day of testosterone suspension 10 days out through the morning of the show, an hour before prejudging.
That was only for the targeted show I had for each year. I usually did about 3 shows a year, trying to maximum peak for one.
Do you have any striations in any other muscle?
How many of the quads do you see distinct separation? (Vastus lateralis, vastus medialis, rectus femoris, sartorius)
At some point some pics would be helpful. Specifically progressive.
Based on yalls input, I’ll do the 200cal increments in carbs and keep protein high. I’m good about my diet, rest, etc just never done a “cut” so wanted some guidance. The main reason for wanting the cycle instead of staying on trt during is that I lose mass very easily. I have to be careful about my calories even on maintenance or I’ll lose some, so was wanting to use it to prevent any muscle loss. I’ll either run the blend at a low dose or maybe run my cyp only just a little higher. I’ll update when I get there. Thanks gents
When I can I’ll get some current, then continue with progress pics. As of right now I have some Delt striation, some in my upper chest (only after I’m pumped), and I can see all 4 separations in my quad if I’m flexed.
I understand that aas doesn’t burn fat. Dieting in a caloric deficit does. But in terms of muscle sparing I’d prefer to run a low dose cycle. Plus the hardening will be nice
then just cut to the chase and go BnC for that matter. Run TRT doses when cutting and blast during bulk… though not sure I’d recommend any bulking activity until you are sure you’re able to sustain a lean physique.