Help with a Diet Plan

Nutrition
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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]MetalMX wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]MetalMX wrote:
I don’t lift weights anymore. But the attached image would be the low bodyfat i’d want. The only muscle i’d gain is through tennis or sprints and that wouldn’t be how this guy built his muscle obviously.[/quote]
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Retarded no. Unrealistic possibly.[/quote]
Dude, not joking, not busting your balls, not talking nonsense or ‘if you try hard enough’, but it is literally impossible (and, yes, unrealistic) to achieve a physique like you’re talking about by only playing tennis and running sprints.

That guy has 160-170 pounds of lean muscle mass, nevermind bodyfat percentage. That’s what you need to pay attention to.[/quote]

  1. I’m a previous bodybuilder so i know a few things

  2. My goals now are different.

  3. Of course i can’t get his SIZE with tennis and sprints but i can achieve his bodyfat percentage with proper diet regardless of wtf i’m doing. Diet & Thyroid determines bodyfat % primarily.

  4. I am not some noob who doesn’t know his head from his ass.

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[quote]MetalMX wrote:

  1. I’m a previous bodybuilder so i know a few things[/quote]
    At 6’3" 240, you were a very big teenager, correct. And it does suck that you ended up having some severe-sounding thyroid issues and hormone problems.

But after all is said and done, your body is now 80+ pounds lighter, you’re seriously underweight, and for some reason even with all your “couple of years” of experience as a bodybuilder (competitive or recreational?), you’ve decided not to try increasing your muscle mass back up to a healthy, functional level.

I know, and your goals are not the issue. Seriously, I wouldn’t care much if your goal was to become the male lead in the NY Ballet Company (though I’d wonder why you came to T-Nation for advice on that.) The approach you’re taking towards your goals is the issue.

I think you’re misunderstanding what bodyfat percentage really is. Lemme come at this from a different angle.

Let’s say that last dude in the pic you posted, Rob Riches, is 180 pounds and 5% bodyfat. What is the other 95% (171 pounds) of his body composed of? Bones, blood, water, and… ? (Yes, I’m oversimplifying, but humor me.)

Your posts in this thread do not support this claim. But at this point, I encourage you to take a few photos today, train and eat however you think is appropriate, and take a few photos 4 months from now. If you come back with a big “told you fuckers so” in May, I’ll be the first to say ‘great job.’

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Amazing.

OP is trolling you guys hard.

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]MetalMX wrote:

  1. I’m a previous bodybuilder so i know a few things[/quote]
    At 6’3" 240, you were a very big teenager, correct. And it does suck that you ended up having some severe-sounding thyroid issues and hormone problems.

But after all is said and done, your body is now 80+ pounds lighter, you’re seriously underweight, and for some reason even with all your “couple of years” of experience as a bodybuilder (competitive or recreational?), you’ve decided not to try increasing your muscle mass back up to a healthy, functional level.

I know, and your goals are not the issue. Seriously, I wouldn’t care much if your goal was to become the male lead in the NY Ballet Company (though I’d wonder why you came to T-Nation for advice on that.) The approach you’re taking towards your goals is the issue.

I think you’re misunderstanding what bodyfat percentage really is. Lemme come at this from a different angle.

Let’s say that last dude in the pic you posted, Rob Riches, is 180 pounds and 5% bodyfat. What is the other 95% (171 pounds) of his body composed of? Bones, blood, water, and… ? (Yes, I’m oversimplifying, but humor me.)

Your posts in this thread do not support this claim. But at this point, I encourage you to take a few photos today, train and eat however you think is appropriate, and take a few photos 4 months from now. If you come back with a big “told you fuckers so” in May, I’ll be the first to say ‘great job.’[/quote]

I am not trying to put anyone down or tell anyone they are wrong i was simply asking for advice and articles i could read over regarding the macronutrient ratios / caloric levels for safe bodyfat reduction while not losing any muscle mass.

Also i am not that light the last time i checked i was 158lbs i’m probably heavier than this but i haven’t weighed myself in quite some time but that’s besides the point. I haven’t tried to increase my muscle mass to any “functional” levels as you call it because i didn’t NEED to increase my muscle mass because i had no purpose and/or goals for doing so. I’m not bodybuilding, i’m not playing any sports, i’m not doing anything UNTIL now when i’ve recently decided to get into tennis and sprints.

If i am built like Wiz Khalifa that’s just me lol…

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[quote]gregron wrote:
Amazing.

OP is trolling you guys hard.[/quote]
Probably, yeah.

I’m an easy mark because I try to give “newbs” the benefit of the doubt the majority of the time (definitely moreso in the Beginners forum).

But the way I see it, I’d usually rather dish out some advice, and maybe give a little ball-busting, just in case it turns out I’ve been dealing with a forgivably-ignorant newb that I could possibly point in the right direction. But If clear evidence of trolling pops up (a’la Ethan7X), then I do get pissed and I do feel a little dumb.

Does seem like there have been more than a handful of this kind of new poster pop up in the last few weeks. Must be a pretty relaxing life if someone’s biggest New Year’s resolution is “Troll some lifting forums.” Whatever though. I like to believe in the karma boomerang. Send out negativity, it’ll eventually come 'round and crack you in the back of the skull.

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I don’t need anymore information regarding my question. So i appreciate everyone who’s posted and offered advice.

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Amazing.

OP is trolling you guys hard.[/quote]
Probably, yeah.

I’m an easy mark because I try to give “newbs” the benefit of the doubt the majority of the time (definitely moreso in the Beginners forum).

But the way I see it, I’d usually rather dish out some advice, and maybe give a little ball-busting, just in case it turns out I’ve been dealing with a forgivably-ignorant newb that I could possibly point in the right direction. But If clear evidence of trolling pops up (a’la Ethan7X), then I do get pissed and I do feel a little dumb.

Does seem like there have been more than a handful of this kind of new poster pop up in the last few weeks. Must be a pretty relaxing life if someone’s biggest New Year’s resolution is “Troll some lifting forums.” Whatever though. I like to believe in the karma boomerang. Send out negativity, it’ll eventually come 'round and crack you in the back of the skull.[/quote]

You’re too nice Chris lol.

There is just no way this guy could be serious.

If you were into BBing and had gotten up to 240 (assuming its not a sloppy 240 since he said he was into BBing) then he should have a good grasp on how to eat and train. He would also presumably know that even being very lean with no muscle mass his level of leanness wouldn’t look like the guy onthe picture he posted.

You post a picture of that physique as your goal of leanness but then say the screen shots of that tennis player are “awesome”? No way man.

Can’t be legit.

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
and maybe give a little ball-busting…[/quote]
I thought I was here for that.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Amazing.
OP is trolling you guys hard.[/quote]
Probably, yeah.
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There is just no way this guy could be serious.[/quote]
I kind of pegged the OP for a troll for the same reason Gregron did. Guy was “really into bodybuilding” but has no idea how to set up a rudimentary diet. That is the same asinine attitude as people that think you can accidentally get “bulky” like a bodybuilder. It shows no frame of reference and zero experience.

To say the least, things just didn’t add up.

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I dunno, I’ve had people in real life tell me how they ‘used to be into bodybuilding,’ because they think that doing some curls in the gym makes them a bodybuilder. People have some strange ideas.

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[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
and maybe give a little ball-busting…[/quote]
I thought I was here for that. [/quote]
Oh, you’ve got your role, for sure.

[quote]gregron wrote:
You’re too nice Chris lol. [/quote]
Ha, yep that’s me. Nice Guy Eddie to contrast all the Mr. Pinks around here.

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[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Amazing.
OP is trolling you guys hard.[/quote]
Probably, yeah.
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There is just no way this guy could be serious.[/quote]
I kind of pegged the OP for a troll for the same reason Gregron did. Guy was “really into bodybuilding” but has no idea how to set up a rudimentary diet. That is the same asinine attitude as people that think you can accidentally get “bulky” like a bodybuilder. It shows no frame of reference and zero experience.

To say the least, things just didn’t add up.
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  1. I was not a professional bodybuilder i was a recreational bodybuilder

  2. I never calculated my caloric intake in the past when training

  3. Pretty much was following this: eat, sleep, train, repeat.