results, progression can come from anything.
you can get strong using calisthenics, machines, cables, freeweights, wrestling, picking up cow shit at a farm.
im not talkin shit about rippetoe, i’ve been using his program, unknowingly, for a long time. but when it comes to personalizing a routine for someone, it wont always work.
a person with a weak back… going right into heavy deads? 5x5?
same with someone with weak hams or hip flexors.
a person with a weak levator scapulae performing heavy power cleans?
weak posterior chain… doing heavy squats?
bad SITS? trying to row heavy with perfect form?
doing heavy bench presses?!?!?
but if someone has good shoulder stability, mobility… experience lifting weights, no back conditions or meds taken, ill put em right into something like starting strength
[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
results, progression can come from anything.
you can get strong using calisthenics, machines, cables, freeweights, wrestling, picking up cow shit at a farm.
im not talkin shit about rippetoe, i’ve been using his program, unknowingly, for a long time. but when it comes to personalizing a routine for someone, it wont always work.
a person with a weak back… going right into heavy deads? 5x5?
same with someone with weak hams or hip flexors.
a person with a weak levator scapulae performing heavy power cleans?
weak posterior chain… doing heavy squats?
bad SITS? trying to row heavy with perfect form?
doing heavy bench presses?!?!?
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5x5 deaedlifts aren’t part of the program. ever try starting light and working your way up. It doesn’t matter if the first few sessions are easy. By the way, I seems like you are against training weak muscles, which I find odd. Those are typically the things you need to work up to hammering the hardest. Let’s keep this thread civil, “shut the fuck up about rippetoes already” is a bad start. In fact There was a pretty unanimous decision in a previous thread you started that doing that is something YOU might need to be considering.
[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
but if someone has good shoulder stability, mobility… experience lifting weights, no back conditions or meds taken, ill put em right into something like starting strength[/quote]
I think if you started posting stuff like:
I usually use specialized programs for people, and I’ll do prehab work if someone has problems before sticking them onto a similar program to starting strength, or a program I wrote.
[quote]meanest wrote:
i love how people recommend against the cherished “velocity” diet here to practically everyone as if it’s some divine undertaking only buddhist monks are capable of doing. [/quote]
it is the hardest diet you will ever understake
plus if not done right it will mess up your metabolism
its recomended not for beginners but for people that have lost weight without it and looking to get off those last few pounds
if you do it then fine do it but make sure you have good eating habits first if not in a few weeks you will be back to the same old bad habits and the effort would be wasted
[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
results, progression can come from anything.
you can get strong using calisthenics, machines, cables, freeweights, wrestling, picking up cow shit at a farm.
im not talkin shit about rippetoe, i’ve been using his program, unknowingly, for a long time. but when it comes to personalizing a routine for someone, it wont always work.
a person with a weak back… going right into heavy deads? 5x5?
same with someone with weak hams or hip flexors.
a person with a weak levator scapulae performing heavy power cleans?
weak posterior chain… doing heavy squats?
bad SITS? trying to row heavy with perfect form?
doing heavy bench presses?!?!?
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thats why its recomended to start at a light weight and perfect form first then work up and everything weak will catch up
you never,ever,ever,ever start a beginer out heavy you work up to it
you ever see someone doing 50 pound deadlifts? I sure have
and I also seen the same person in a mater of 4 months doing deadlifts for a 300 pound 1rm