Well I tried RG bench today… Really wasn’t expecting that feeling! It’s totally different to any other exercise and I could really feel my rear delts and shoulder girdle supporting the weight. Definitely going to keep these in rotation - thanks MM.
[quote]desolator wrote:
What about direct neck training with harness etc? Seems that almost nobody uses it, but this is probably the only exercise which is specialized on the neck itself.[/quote]
Nothing wrong with a neck harness. Between that and that neck machine at the gym, very few movements will hit the sternocleidomastoids like that. Most don’t do them because they may not see the need. Most people are going to get a much thicker neck from simply getting bigger all over and working on those muscle supporting the shoulder girdle (traps, shoulders, upper chest). My neck is 20" at my heaviest weight. Building that up even outside of building my traps isn’t really a priority to me and I am not sure I would even like that look.
If you feel it needs special attention, then do them.
X,What kinda weight were you moving with barbell shrugs before you switched over to the hammer strength machine?I’d like to know ballpark what weights I’d need to be doing to have decent traps.The most I did was 150kgx20 so Im guessing I have a ways to go yet on some of the beasts on here.
[quote]law8 wrote:
X,What kinda weight were you moving with barbell shrugs before you switched over to the hammer strength machine?I’d like to know ballpark what weights I’d need to be doing to have decent traps.The most I did was 150kgx20 so Im guessing I have a ways to go yet on some of the beasts on here.[/quote]
I’m not Professor X… but I think the idea that you should only move to a machine after a certain level of development is pretty silly. Everything has its place… if you are a 300lb gorilla or not.
If you want to switch to hammer strength machines and you aren’t a 300lb gorilla, so what? You could mix things up with them and possibly get some new growth just from changing exercises. You can always go back to regular BB shrugs after a while.
I was going to do DB shurgs today, but the plates are too close to my leg on my olympic DB handle so I stood sideways against the smith machine and did shrugs on that. Worked pretty well.
[quote]monatu wrote:
It isn’t that complicated.
Shrugs
High/Low Pull’s (these made my traps explode)
Deadlifts
to a lesser extent Upright Rows.
You can power clean/snatch as well, but if your just looking to add size then its a lot of work to master the lift just for trap size.
[/quote]
No, it’s not that complicated considering every bodybuilder does the same damn exercises albeit variations on them.
Chinups or lat pulldown variations
Rowing variations
Shrug variations
Deadlift variations
Overhead pressing variations
Delt raise variations
Is there anything else a bodybuilder ever did for big traps?
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]monatu wrote:
It isn’t that complicated.
Shrugs
High/Low Pull’s (these made my traps explode)
Deadlifts
to a lesser extent Upright Rows.
You can power clean/snatch as well, but if your just looking to add size then its a lot of work to master the lift just for trap size.
[/quote]
No, it’s not that complicated considering every bodybuilder does the same damn exercises albeit variations on them.
Chinups or lat pulldown variations
Rowing variations
Shrug variations
Deadlift variations
Overhead pressing variations
Delt raise variations
Is there anything else a bodybuilder ever did for big traps? [/quote]
Steve Kuclo and Justin Harris were doing power cleans in a video on youtube lol. I agree though, idk why there is a 6 page thread about this.
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]monatu wrote:
It isn’t that complicated.
Shrugs
High/Low Pull’s (these made my traps explode)
Deadlifts
to a lesser extent Upright Rows.
You can power clean/snatch as well, but if your just looking to add size then its a lot of work to master the lift just for trap size.
[/quote]
No, it’s not that complicated considering every bodybuilder does the same damn exercises albeit variations on them.
Chinups or lat pulldown variations
Rowing variations
Shrug variations
Deadlift variations
Overhead pressing variations
Delt raise variations
Is there anything else a bodybuilder ever did for big traps? [/quote]
Steve Kuclo and Justin Harris were doing power cleans in a video on youtube lol. I agree though, idk why there is a 6 page thread about this. [/quote]
Yeh my point wasn’t that there is no point in doing Cleans/Snatches (or that no bodybuilders do them), my point is that if your only looking to bodybuild then there are easier ways to get bigger traps than teaching yourself the Clean (not to hard) or the snatch (hard)
[quote]monatu wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]monatu wrote:
It isn’t that complicated.
Shrugs
High/Low Pull’s (these made my traps explode)
Deadlifts
to a lesser extent Upright Rows.
You can power clean/snatch as well, but if your just looking to add size then its a lot of work to master the lift just for trap size.
[/quote]
No, it’s not that complicated considering every bodybuilder does the same damn exercises albeit variations on them.
Chinups or lat pulldown variations
Rowing variations
Shrug variations
Deadlift variations
Overhead pressing variations
Delt raise variations
Is there anything else a bodybuilder ever did for big traps? [/quote]
Steve Kuclo and Justin Harris were doing power cleans in a video on youtube lol. I agree though, idk why there is a 6 page thread about this. [/quote]
Yeh my point wasn’t that there is no point in doing Cleans/Snatches (or that no bodybuilders do them), my point is that if your only looking to bodybuild then there are easier ways to get bigger traps than teaching yourself the Clean (not to hard) or the snatch (hard)[/quote]
I most certainly agree. It was a joke dude lol.
Fuck building a big yoke bro.
I don’t understand all the commotion. Get stronger in all your exercises, throw in shrugs if you need to.
/thread.
I don’t understand all the commotion. Get stronger in all your exercises, throw in shrugs if you need to.
/thread.
I didn’t read the pages, but when I started, the traps were the muscles that grew the fastest, do power cleans.
trapple sauce.