HeavyThrower Making You Leaner and Bigger

a meal would be like, a peice of steak of some sort, 8-12 ounces, some veggies stir fried in olive or coconut oil, and maybe a sweet potato or white rice. i also used lots of eggs for protein, 2-3 eggs scrambled, 2-3 pieces of whole grain toast, and some berries.

the shake would be 1 scoop of Metabolic Drive with a tblspn of of coconut oil, and a spoon of natural peanut butter, and a scoop or two of Biotest super food, and some ground up almonds.

if i did junk food, instead of the above “meal” i would have a couple slices of pizza, or maybe 2-3 fried breaded chicken strips with and handful of french fries.

that was it, with exception of 1-3 “snacks” while on the run at work… a “snack” might be a slice of pepper jack cheese, or a handful of blackberries, or a couple of spoons of peanut or almond or cashew butter.

this is what i did to lose all that weight. understand, in addition to training EVERY day, i am walking/hustling on my feet at work for 12 hours straight. i rarely if ever sit down, and there are nights where i dont take my first piss break until like 8 hours into a shift.

i mention this because though it is not serious HIIT, but at over 200lbs, that much walking has to use up some calories. i told you that i wore a pedometer for a week to see what i averaged walking cumulatively during a 12 hour shift, it was like 5-7 miles each shift.

i hope this helps.

Yes it helps a lot actually, thx

Regarding all your walking what you need to realize is that while it is true that it is a big caloric expenditure I just see it as a daily normal activity. Why? Because it is not something you added when trying to diet down, you were walking just as much before that and are walking just as much now thus i cannot count this as “extra caloric expenditure”

idk if you follow me there?

this is today, 218.2lbs

[quote]zraw wrote:
Yes it helps a lot actually, thx

Regarding all your walking what you need to realize is that while it is true that it is a big caloric expenditure I just see it as a daily normal activity. Why? Because it is not something you added when trying to diet down, you were walking just as much before that and are walking just as much now thus i cannot count this as “extra caloric expenditure”

idk if you follow me there?[/quote]

ya i got it.

Are we allowed to ask questions? :smiley:

If so, what’s the deal with throwing up during training sessions? In high school I used to all the time on hill sprints and the rare tabata type exercise or squat session. I was told you really need to avoid that as it does way more damage and now I try and stop before I hit that stage. Not sure what “damage” it could do of course! Thanks, and keep it up heavy!

[quote]KcThrows wrote:
Are we allowed to ask questions? :smiley:

If so, what’s the deal with throwing up during training sessions? In high school I used to all the time on hill sprints and the rare tabata type exercise or squat session. I was told you really need to avoid that as it does way more damage and now I try and stop before I hit that stage. Not sure what “damage” it could do of course! Thanks, and keep it up heavy! [/quote]

It’s most likely the fact that HT currently has a low anaerobic thresshold and the enormous lactate accumulation from the giant sets and high rep work is causing him to vomit. As his conditioning improves, so will his vomit problem.

HT, try taking 1-2 antacid tablets a little while before training and see if that helps.

thanks strong, ill try that. just got off work, off day today, going to BED!

I do not want you to do this but I kinda need to know considering ur already on hrt with test and hgh

What are your thoughts on t3

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]KcThrows wrote:
Are we allowed to ask questions? :smiley:

If so, what’s the deal with throwing up during training sessions? In high school I used to all the time on hill sprints and the rare tabata type exercise or squat session. I was told you really need to avoid that as it does way more damage and now I try and stop before I hit that stage. Not sure what “damage” it could do of course! Thanks, and keep it up heavy! [/quote]

It’s most likely the fact that HT currently has a low anaerobic thresshold and the enormous lactate accumulation from the giant sets and high rep work is causing him to vomit. As his conditioning improves, so will his vomit problem.[/quote]

ya, umm, that was gonna be what i said. lol

actually, i am not a complete idiot, i figured that it was me not just being in shape for this kind of workout was the deal, and it usually hits after the legs ciruit, and according to a few people here, i have a decent amount of muscle on my legs, so when all the fatigue poisons from that high rep leg work hits my stomach, boom, my brain hits the flush button.

i am not pussy either, i am used to pretty intense, fast paste, workouts.

the worst (or best, depending on how you look at it) part of Strong’s workout, is the CONSTANT ROM and TUT against loads for 10-20 minutes CONTINUOUS.

because i train alone in my own gym with my own equipment, there is very little to no rest even when switching exercises.

Strong can correct me if i am wrong, but the idea was to make the workouts as metabolically demanding as possible without reverting to high impact sprinting, running ect,

AND to make the movements as demanding as possible while taking it easy on my joints. in other words i can get a great near 90% plus loading with lets say, the deadlift 5x3x 200kg is all i can handle if i do the pre-exhaust, as opposed to 250-270kg.

my neck back and knees can feel the difference of 270kg vs 200kg, but my brain feels like i i am stressed just as hard, thus stimulating an adaptive change(bigger stronger muscles)

amiright?

i dont think Strong is trying to fuck me up and make me vomit, but he is trying to stress me adequately to elicit improvements with 3 day a week training.

Good work in here HT!

I have to disagree with Stronghold on the antacids. My understanding is that acid is what dissolves/digests the food you eat and that unnecessary antacids wrecks the balance in your gut and it also destroys the good bacteria in your gut. I would avoid antacids like the plague unless there was a medical reason making it necessary to take them. I wouldn’t take them to cure “prowler flu.” That’s just my counter-opinion.

[quote]zraw wrote:
I do not want you to do this but I kinda need to know considering ur already on hrt with test and hgh

What are your thoughts on t3[/quote]

? whats t3?

my new workout partners, already pretty lean…

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:
I do not want you to do this but I kinda need to know considering ur already on hrt with test and hgh

What are your thoughts on t3[/quote]

? whats t3?[/quote]

Random question and this may be stupid, but Zraw - if you’re humoring throwing T3 at HT, why not just include Clen as well? I know there’s TRT and GH to be taken into account, but it seems like it would only help accelerate the fat-burning process and help contribute to an anabolic state vs the T3, right?

Although Clen does suck, at least it’s not DNP. :wink:

Anyway, forgive me if that’s dumb. You certainly know those compounds much better than I do.

Keep up the great work HT, I haven’t spoken up yet here but I’ve been reading all along. I’m sure there are many others as well.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
my new workout partners, already pretty lean…[/quote]
Great stuff going on In here HT.And ya your dogs are taller than my ground huggin ass haha.

thanks bunch jp

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:
I do not want you to do this but I kinda need to know considering ur already on hrt with test and hgh

What are your thoughts on t3[/quote]

? whats t3?[/quote]

Random question and this may be stupid, but Zraw - if you’re humoring throwing T3 at HT, why not just include Clen as well? I know there’s TRT and GH to be taken into account, but it seems like it would only help accelerate the fat-burning process and help contribute to an anabolic state vs the T3, right?

Although Clen does suck, at least it’s not DNP. :wink:

Anyway, forgive me if that’s dumb. You certainly know those compounds much better than I do.

Keep up the great work HT, I haven’t spoken up yet here but I’ve been reading all along. I’m sure there are many others as well.[/quote]

thank you, and please chime in whenever yow want, all reasonable opinions and comments welcome.

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:
I do not want you to do this but I kinda need to know considering ur already on hrt with test and hgh

What are your thoughts on t3[/quote]

? whats t3?[/quote]

Random question and this may be stupid, but Zraw - if you’re humoring throwing T3 at HT, why not just include Clen as well? I know there’s TRT and GH to be taken into account, but it seems like it would only help accelerate the fat-burning process and help contribute to an anabolic state vs the T3, right?

Although Clen does suck, at least it’s not DNP. :wink:

Anyway, forgive me if that’s dumb. You certainly know those compounds much better than I do.

Keep up the great work HT, I haven’t spoken up yet here but I’ve been reading all along. I’m sure there are many others as well.[/quote]

I’m just wondering if, maybe, his thyroid is messed up a bit. If its not, at all, then I dont feel like t3 will be needed

T3/clen/ephedrine/fat burners and even green tea for fat loss are things I prefer to add when the fatloss really stalls, instead of right off the bat to get faster results

Kind of like it goes for adding muscles i guess

You can add 2000cals right off the bat to gain weight and your weight gain will be faster but 4-5months from now it may not be that beneficial as opposed to if you had added things as you actually needed them

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Good work in here HT!

I have to disagree with Stronghold on the antacids. My understanding is that acid is what dissolves/digests the food you eat and that unnecessary antacids wrecks the balance in your gut and it also destroys the good bacteria in your gut. I would avoid antacids like the plague unless there was a medical reason making it necessary to take them. I wouldn’t take them to cure “prowler flu.” That’s just my counter-opinion. [/quote]

The huge lactic acid accumulation caused by these workouts causes the body to purge it’s most easily accessible sorce of high acid- the stomach. Antacids aren’t going to do anything to the stomach that yakking every other day isn’t going to do as well. They’re a short-term fix until his conditioning gets to the point where he can handle it.

HT, you’ve got the right idea, keep killing it!

update

daily weights -

wed 5/1 213.8
5/2 215
5/3 218.2
5/4 220.4
5/5 218.2

today was direct arm work with bands, nothing to interesting, got a good pump.

energy levels were up initially with the new diet, as i am sure it was more calories than i had taken in in a while, but today was not feeling too well as family obligations kept me from sleeping very much, as i type this only 2 hours of sleep last 30 hours, no exaggeration

ill post full set of update pics in am, too tired right now, lol. .