[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
After seeing this video a while back,I said fuck Salvia…lol. [/quote]
Haha, Salvia rocks. Great stuff if you have a strong mind. Cruel stuff if you have a weak one.
[quote]TheBigV wrote:
[quote]SSC wrote:
It’s really, quite intense. I know guys who enjoy psychedelics frequently and don’t care for salvia. A spotter is necessary, not ideal.[/quote]
I was using the term ideal to mean: A conception of something in its absolute perfection.
SSC, you mentioned people who “seek meditation or spiritual enlightenment.” with salvia, do you have any more information on this? Maybe a website or just anecdotal stuff too[/quote]
Try www.erowid.org
They have info on all kinds of drugs and people’s experiences on them. It used to be my go to before I tried anything new.
I tried Salvia in college about 5 years ago. I was in the back of my buddies car on the way home from a head shop that we bought it at. Three of us (minus the driver) filled up a bowl and smoked the whole thing to our heads (one bowl per person) and tried to hold it in as long as possible. I felt a little light headed and things looked a little brighter. But the main thing that was weird was that part of my vision seemed to be “smeared”, like someone took a squeegee to part of my field-of-vision…which was actually kinda cool. I didn’t have any crazy freak-outs or anything like that. It felt pretty good and only lasted around 3-5 minutes. Maybe I got a weak batch?
I say if you are experienced and open-minded then go for it. No offense to anyone but I don’t think you have to be looking for a life-altering experience or have a “spotter” to enjoy this, but WTF do I know…
I tried it once. I think it was 16x. I did it on halloween and all my friends were dressed up in costume, and I couldn’t stand up and everyone was laughing at me. All I could hear was all of them sounding like babies laughing (think "littering and, littering and, littering and, a la super troopers) and then I was laughing so hard I was crying. Then as the high started wearing off, I tried getting up from the couch again, and couldn’t. So I took my shirt off.
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I say if you are experienced and open-minded then go for it. No offense to anyone but I don’t think you have to be looking for a life-altering experience or have a “spotter” to enjoy this, but WTF do I know…[/quote]
Yea, if smoked out of a bowl its not going to really do too much… You’re going to need to smoke it out of a bong and take a monster hit(s) to fully grasp the effects…
salvia is decent but there are better things if you wanna obtain your shit legally(from online vendors)
Mimosa hostilis / Chaliponga brew along with some syrian rue half an hour prior for the win bro
My friends and I smoked saliva that was 20x or 25x. Most definitely never smoking that shit again. There was three of us and we took turns smoking some from a bowl because we knew shit could get crazy. The high was not enjoyable to say the least. The kid who smoked the saliva first wanted to jump out his sixth floor window because he thought he was super mario world and that me and my other friend were henchman trying to kill him. He would have jumped too if not for me and other friend pulling him back into the apartment.
Sally told me this shit is stupid.
Definately on par with acid on the visuals, except salvia was scary.
for me, my whole reality came apart, like a cruel type of “trueman’s show” that was only just revealed to me when I took that bong hit. Also, my friends and the car turned into cardboard and when my friend gave me a lighter it was stuck to his hand because they were both made of velcro.
My other friend said he couldn’t stop laughing the whole time
and then the other guy said he felt like he was on a rollercoaster.
I took it to a party is Corona and after this kid smoked it he kept opening and closing the door repeating “I gotta find little jack, I gotta find little jack” for a few minutes.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Lots of bad information about Salvia here. It’s bad information used in conjunction with idiots that give the stuff a bad rap.
First, the trip lasts <10 minutes. It’s typically very pronounced in first six-seven minutes, but you’ll have some time after that where you’re experiencing a “total body” high.
One should always have a ‘spotter’ around when trying salvia. People can do things that can quite endanger themselves while tripping, so someone who is straight should be around to monitor the event.
The trip itself can and probably will be quite intense. You can lose yourself and be totally awstruck. Four years ago my roommate leaped around our dorm room, hopping from bed to bed, thinking that he was a monkey in a zoo and I was a spectator. He then jumped off the bed, and tried duct-taping his knee to one of our desks because he was scared that diamonds were coming out too fast.
Anything below 40X grade is pretty pointless, IMO.
Salvia is not meant as a recreational drug, but more so as a rather elaborate way to seek and explore the inner mind. Most experienced salvia trippers all admit to being ‘spoken to’ by a female entity named “Sally.” Keep in mind this is guys who are common trippers though, and seek meditation or spiritual enlightenment.
To achieve desired effects, one is better suited to approaching the smoking of salvia with a water pipe (AGAIN, AND WITH SOMEONE ELSE AROUND) such as a bong or chubbler. Turbo lighters are best for lighting the product, though normal ones will be fine.
When inhaled, you HAVE to hold in the smoke for 20-30 seconds. Don’t worry, it doesn’t sting and isn’t as pungant as something like weed smoke. It’s much smoother and more “earthy.”
Upon exhaling, you’ll start to trip balls. That’s when the spotter takes the water pipe and enjoys the show.
If you’re a spotter, it’s going to be wierd. The tripper will be looking around the room (and at you) completely lost and confused. He’ll probably be trying to reach out and feel for things; this is because he’s experiencing vivid hallucinations. Don’t be scared if they get timid or secluded, tripping can be a scary experience at first. You’re completely out of control.
Ideal environmental settings include a dim room with calm music in the background, in the woods, or somewhere that you won’t experience any interruptions or hassles.
That’s about all I can think of off the top of my head, for now.[/quote]
nice post. I think the first time I did it it was x65 or x85, if that makes sense. Some people into the salvia culture were saying that it released a chemical released into your brain the moment that you die, I was wondering if that has any validity whatsoever?
[quote]Drivethruhero wrote:
Mimosa hostilis / Chaliponga brew along with some syrian rue half an hour prior for the win bro[/quote]
Along the lines of people freaking out, watch a grown man run screaming into the jungle while his camera crew tries to restrain him, then they lock him in a tent which does not go well, and he pisses himself. Don’t try this combo unless you know what you are doing.
I use it regularly and have had nothing but good experiences - both during and overall feelings of wellbeing afterwards. You really have to know what you are getting into and not use some retarded strength extract in the wrong environment.
It can be an amazing experience with deep interaction with spirits/entities or as irresponsible users frequently find out it can be pretty terrible.
I smoked some recently. Definately overdosed tho. The effective dose is about 200 micrograms(200 millionths of a gram). I’m sure in a gram of it there must be quite a lot of 200 microgram hits that you can take so start small. If you want to have a good trip, make sure you have RESPONSIBLE sitters, thats very important, and don’t smoke too much b/c it’s one of the last things where ‘more is better’.
Don’t remember what extract I used, but I remember using a turbo lighter and smoking a lot before anything hit me, then it hit me like a ton of bricks, I passed off the pipe and lighter and just laid back and felt like I was falling and had some really wicked visuals of my ceiling and fan.
Had a friend there to watch me, wouldn’t describe it as bad but intense would be an understatement.
Not sure what strength I had but I found it to be an enjoyable experience. Four of my friends were with me and we all did it one by one while the others sat and laughed. It was fun.
Worst drug I have ever taken. I have a post somewhere here a while back under " salvia train wreck". I have friends who regularly do LSD and Mushrooms and they don’t like Salvia… It definitely has a “breaking point” you pretty much trip or not. If you do and have a full “rebirth” type trip it will change you. Explaining a slavia trip is not really possible, it’s something you have to experience.
I smoked 80x with a buddy of mine the original plan was to smoke it on saturday night outside a bar before going in to see if we could play it straight. After talking with my other friend that sold it to me and him introducing me to a few of the guys that had smoked the shit before me we decided that we would just toke it at home.
I went first and at first nothing was happening so i kept hitting it and holding it in then hitting it again, Then it hit me like a fucking mack truck. I could see how the whole world was connected and could see energy flowing past and through me it was like I got a glimpse of what holds our world together it was like lego blocks that were constantly flipping adjusting and realigning do to the flow of energy.
After I calmed down my friend then proceeds to hit it he does the same as me hit and hold like 4 or 5 times before anything happens. When it kicks in it was like he was in slow mo talking slow slurring his speech and then he laid down to go to sleep, he just closes his eyes and he jumps straight from his back to a standing fighting position sreaming, “what year is it?” He just took of like a shot and
I had to chase him down and convince him that he had just smoked salvia and it was still only 2009.
Once he heard this he was so happy and went on to explain he thought he had slept for many years and that when he awoke it was in the future and he feared everyone he loved was gone. But he said he would love to try it again I feel what you see depends on what you have in you subconcious mind.
I do believe people with stronger minds do better on salvia then those who may not be as strong mentally. I am not saying this controls if you have a bad experience it just helps you deal if you have a bad experience.
I tried Salvia one time, I thought it was great. First I laughed uncontrollably, then felt as if my bed was melting and I was sinking into it. I was wearing a jacket at the time and could feel the zipper on my arm, and as my perception of the scale of things messed up, I believed each zipper was a full-sized doll’s arm. I then imagined a cottage made entirely out of doll’s arms.
I found it a very relaxing experience and I guess you’d have to be a bit of a bell-end to decide to jump out of a window on it. It’s like steroids - if you have anger problems naturally, roids may amplify that. If you’re a dick naturally, you’ll probably try to jump out of a window when on drugs.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
It was the single most unpleasant high I have ever tried. Worse even than the paranoia from amphetemine.
The only good thing about it was that it lasted for about 15 minutes only.
BBB[/quote]
This (plus SSC’s solid post).
From what I’ve seen and in my own personal experience, you either laugh uncontrollably or freak the fuck out. I’ve done both, with the laughing fit coming from a lower-grade extract.
While there are more mellow alternatives out there (from what I’ve heard; salvia turned me off from hallucinogenics), it is definitely worth it if you want to experience what it is like to truly be “out of your fucking mind” and completely detached from any semblance of reality for a brief spell.
I don’t think it can be said enough…make sure you have a sitter. This stuff is classified as a paralytic hallucinogen. Take a hit and lay down. Make sure you’re ready for the demons if you’re not in a very positive place in your life at the time.
Im glad the time I took it I didnt get a huge hit. Felt like little demons were under my skin trying to break out. I don`t even want to know what it would have been like if I got a full hit.
I`ve ingested 8+ grams of mushrooms in one handful before and there is no comparison to the intensity.
On that note, anyone know where I can find some DMT
Effects last about 5 minutes, interesting to try a few times, but you’re not missing much.