Hard R (why is this Voldemort?)

Would be used without consequences?

Like I said, if black people want to use the word between themselves or about themselves, that’s their business. Personally, I think it’s stupid and the fact no other group uses slurs like that is one of those success leaves clues matters.

Anyone should be able to use the word without negative consequences provided the context, such as reported speech or even an actor in a movie. I know people make exceptions when it’s between friends for example.

Intent matters.

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I was being ironic, I think anyone who think it is racist for a child, any child, to dress up as a cartoon, no matter the ethicity of said children or cartoon, is a fucking moron.

Nor do I.

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Words matter. Period. There are consequences. If someone calls me a cunt (in real life) it’s going to matter. To me, to my husband, to my kids. There may be consequences.

If someone calls me a cunt because I’ve reported accurately to DCF as a part of my job, I’ll probably feel sympathy for their frustration while knowing I’ve done the right thing. Probably no consequences, because I’d simply shake it off and move on.

Only children feel they should be able to use any word without repercussions.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying. I honestly can’t make sense of it. There are no legal penalties for using the word. There are social penalties. You’re against people avoiding others because of their behavior?

I was referring to people who like to show off (manufacture) outrage on behalf of others while totally disregarding nuance and context.
That’s how you get books rewritten these days.
I have no idea if you or the other person are such people, but I have not read anything from you that woudl lead me to think so.

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Thing is they defend others against things that don’t need defending. Using my example above, you think Polynesians give two shits if some girl is dressing up like Moana?
They don’t. It’s always some Karen going apeshit on social media.

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Negative and positive. But, just like the law, reasonableness needs to play a role. Is it reasonable to say that a white person can’t utter that word under any circumstances and thus, an actor playing a racist who uses that word, should face negative consequences? Not even Spike Lee would agree with that. You typed the word in a post above, should I dox you and ruin your life? Am I allowed to have my idiocy impose itself upon how we live our lives?

Yeah, holocaust jokes tend to fall flat when you tell it to Germans.
Well actually any joke for that matter (they are Germans after all), but they do feel genuinely ashamed about the whole thing.

I suppose you might be right regarding the special case in your country, even though slavery in Brazil followed a similar trajectory (substitute cotton for coffee and sugar).

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I believe this is the current circumstance. There may be social disapproval for using the word so make your choices carefully, but reasonable people can easily identify under what circumstances these are and are not likely.

I see the world in shades of gray as well as black and white. I believe this particular word will become obsolete when the energy around it diminishes, at which point it will become limited to historical references, which would include film depictions.

I really am trying to hone in on your beef, but all I can get to is that you want a law that equalizes use of the word - yay or nay across the board - because currently the social cost of it falls unfairly. But I can’t imagine you really want a law for this?

Ha, funny!

People accurately point out that we have all been enslaved to one degree or another at some point in history. These histories take time to digest, is all. And a little patience.

Because I don’t have one. I don’t want to go around using any racial slurs. And I don’t think it’s unfair that the group a slur refers to gets to use that slur however they want while outsiders need to tread carefully.

If I were to have a beef it’s with the idea that one racial slur is worse than all other racial slurs. God doesn’t play favorites.

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Because they’re protected by the internet and it’s easier to threaten violence than to have cordial discourse.

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I am not sure the double negative is saying what you want? Maybe so? Just thought I’d ask. I am my own victim of using the double negative in a way that is opposite of what I mean sometimes.

Didn’t read all the comments. Skimmed through a few, chuckled at some, liked the ones I knew I was going to like anyways.

The enigma of the N-word baffled me as a kid growing up in a 98% white rural population. I thought it was wrong for one group of people to be able to say it while others cannot. Of course, everyone is allowed to say it, legally speaking, but it is not socially acceptable to do so.

Probably more than a decade later, I was curious why black people were so adamant about using it nearly every other word though. The most articulate answer I ever heard was “to regain our power over the word that was once used to oppress us”. While I appreciate the sentiment, it just seems painfully short-sighted. Why? Well because you’re going to have ignorant white kids like me growing up in the sticks who go and say it to be edgy kids - and cause someone else to be hurt.

Anecdote aside, I now think the word has been used as a means of gaining power over others, and it has not been to gain power over the word in quite some time. Maybe the reasons are the same, or maybe they are different - I couldn’t tell you.

What I do know, is that this word is now used as a shield to shut down debate.
Morgan Wallen was unquestionably the best artist and was refused the CMA because of a 10 year old video where he referred to his best friend as “my nigga”.
The dude from Papa Johns pizza was fired for quoting a time when Colonel Sanders said “Niggers”.
Matt Rife had to un-cancel himself from saying the N-Word (assumed soft-R) to his best friends - all of whom were black.

It seems that any and all continued use of this word - by any party - does nothing but hurt those who have no ill intentions towards those whom it supposedly hurts. But it’s still intertwined within almost every R&B and rap song that’s out there.

There is a harsh double-standard out there, and I do wish for it to go away. Not so that people who look like me could say demeaning and offensive words without reprocussion, but so that it was demeaning and offensive no matter who said it.

But my opinion on this doesn’t matter. At all. I won’t stand up for how wrong it is to say, or my right to say it. I’m a neck tattoo and a close(r) cropped haircut away from being an honorary aryan brotherhood inductee - and I like money too much to fight for this. I just wish the term would go away, honestly.

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It’s hard to know what people give two shits about when you spend your life avoiding contact with those people.

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I think he went on to make a huge hit with one of rap’s possibly most “authentic” gangstas. I saw a lot of online stuff saying he got the “n-word pass” after that, haha.

I’m saying it is fair that one group gets to use the word and another does not. I sometimes watch the Hodge Twins videos because they piss my wife off. They will call black people who are acting like idiots the n word. I wouldn’t use that word to describe a black person because I don’t use racial slurs and if I did, I should not expect to get away with it. If someone is being an asshole we have plenty of words to describe him; adding a racial connotation is unnecessary, unless you are a racist.

Now, I might refer to my people when they behave a certain way using a racial slur but I would not do that in front of outsiders, only among my people, because I wouldn’t want them to think I’m OK with that word being used.

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Dude, who are your people? You always say stuff like this but act like it’s really secretive.

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Hillbillies

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Those ar My people! :rofl:

My one old work buddy is Puerto Rican and somebody called him a N word. He was pissed. Not because he’s black, cuz he’s more like lite mocha, but because it disparaged his nationality- Puerto Rican.
In fact, he doesn’t identify as black at all, but does have some african traits.

Alright, story time. In one of my first college jobs I was a student working on a Literature degree. Got kind of friendly heckled by my boss, Pedro.

So one day he starts going “Guapa, those cuts look like you should close the books and work on your huevos.” (Paraphrasing, it was a while ago.)

And then this guy named Jim who was smart as hell but fiercely bitter yells “Hey Pedro! You know why there’s no good Puertican literature?”

Pedro turns around. Jim yells “Because spraypaint wasn’t invented until 1947!” And then sprints out.

I know it’s offensive but I’m still laughing about it years later.

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