Nah that was me. And if you don’t think cougar jokes are funny, man, we’ll never get along.
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Lol, I guess, but there are a ton of masculine roll models in entertainment. The Rock, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Mark Walburg, RDJ, I could go on, but you get the point.
That whole section just seemed dumb to me, but again I just skimmed it, saw Cosby, and legitimately laughed out loud.
Yes, but you also subscribe to the idea that there is an acceptable level of oppression of women and misandry.
I don’t believe that equality is zero sum, meaning there is only so much to go around-Therefor if group X gets some, then group Y must have lost some.
We fundamentally disagree on on this, and I’m perfectly OK with that.
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Those are my personal feelings as well, but that’s not the reality of the world we live in.
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I deleted the post by accident. Thumb touched trash icon by accident.
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I think it was an alright part of the article but I don’t know why Cosby was included either.
I can’t keep up with your edits, nor can I confirm your interpretation of anything I’ve said.
You’d definitely have to link it back to its original context.
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Like I said, I just skimmed it so maybe I’m missing something I just think there are a lot of masculine role model in entertainment. Like a bajillion. Probably more so than the 80s.
Explain that bolden part further because I’m not sure where you got that from.
You claim to like and identify with that article. That article presents a “survey” on peoples perceptions of misandry.
It’s in pfury’s post just above. Post # 612.
On the right amount of oppression: We’ve gone back and forth any number of times about that. You seem to take the position that women aren’t being oppressed “too much” (I’m paraphrasing) so I ask (facetiously) in response “How much is the right amount?” which you never actually or clearly answer.
The inference, and often stated explicitly is that there is a right amount.
I agree that it exists. I do not agree that there is any right amount.
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This is always a weird subject. While I can see women being “oppressed” in the work place, I’ve never seen it happen to a woman I’ve viewed as worth their salt.
The closest generalization I can come up with through experience is, women seem to have an easier time getting job than men these days, but men are still ultimately paid more for their work. This isnt even a majority, it’s just a big enough percentage to be perceptible.
And as SkyzykS mentioned, I’ve seen a few friends left out to dry by women, (and I think we all are familiar with Brendan Fraser) but I’ve also seen my dad come out of 2 marriages with a house, vehicle, and 0 alimony.
If I had to take a stab at a subjective opinion on the subject; I think women do get dicked (metaphorically) more often then guys in the workplace, dudes get dicked more often than women in a divorce. Also more and more women seem to subscribe to the radical feminism lane, where all men are fucking trash unless they’re gay; but guys, as a general rule, still feel the pride of being man of the house. Which comes with having the final say, being in charge of finances, feeling free to do as they please because of it, and feeling like the women should stay home and clean and shouldnt have a reason to go out.
IMO, workplace “oppression” these days isn’t explicit (ppl get sued 
) It’s more of the little things, ie expecting women to wear heels (a dress code in many companies, particularly finance) or discrimination based on looks
With that said, radical feminists blow it WAYYY out of proportion
I feel like I should be offended by this, but at some level, I agree (except for the “stay at home” part). When I’m home (in college now), I’ve always felt that the cleaning was my responsibility. I never expected my brother or dad to help out and sure as hell don’t expect any future husband of mine to do so either
This is very understandable. However, the higher you climb in a company, or dressier the line of work, this is just a subjective taste of class. Dudes wearing suits, and women wearing dresses/heels. I’ve actually worked several jobs where I was required to wear the company uniform, however women were allowed to dress however they want, as long as it looked presentable. I dont care one way or another, but it’s just an experience.
Hell yeah you should. You’re a person. Personally in my house, I make the majority of the money, clean, and cook (for myself) meanwhile my fiance pays the bills and otherwise takes care of the finances, and most of the animal care. Theres no reason other than picking up things were good at and dont mind doing. Fuck whatever standard you’re told to abide by.
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your fiance sounds like a bad ass, based on what you’ve said, we’d be best friends!
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Yeah, shes just a dude in women’s skin. Which is perfect, because I’m as romantic and empathetic as a wet sock. But thank you!
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Everyone has some level of oppression in their lives, but the idea that women are seriously oppressed in the west is utter bullshit, it’s the opposite, women have been gaining more power in a variety of ares at an alarming rate, and not because of merit, but because of societal manipulation.
this will be harmful to not just men, but women as well.
The pay gap has been debunked by some and the article covers the glass ceiling so often spoken about.
In the article there is a chart showing some other important gaps.
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Expatriation : While America continues to attract the greatest merit and volume of (legal) immigrants, almost every American man who relocates to Asia or Latin America gives a glowing testimonial about the quality of his new life.
holy mother of fuck lol.
@usmccds423
this initial article was written in 2010, before the Crosby blow up.
crazy this dude was talking about this 10 years ago, even before the huge explosion of online dating apps. so, it’s only gotten worse. @BrickHead
one of the things he said that blew me away was about the emptying of bars. I don’t think bars will ever be empty… but so many people I know talk about the ‘scene’ where the dating vibe is practically dead outside. no one goes and meets people out, and overall the bar aspect of many places dwindled down considerably. not sure if this applies to where you are but I have definitely seen this on my end.
this could explain the statistics about the decline consumption of alcohol by the younger generation
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Not only that. When I was a teenager people would be in parks all day long, and sometimes til the early morning hours. This was before the boroughs of NYC became tight-ass places out of necessity. Sometimes there were keg parties in golf courses and the parks.
Sometimes girls would be there and watch shirtless dudes play ball games. Kids would ride bikes or walk for miles through different towns.
Granted some of this hanging out was excessive and in the old NYC heyday there were many “crews”, some of whom were goddamn crazy and violent, but at least much of the young people showed healthy instincts like wanting to be outside, play games, and attract those of the opposite sex.
I agree that bars aren’t the same. There’s a street balled Bell Blvd in Queens. That place had many bars and restaurants back in the old NYC heyday, street fairs, all that. The place was jammed on weekends and for big game nights or days. It is nowhere near like that anymore.
How? If we were equal there would be nothing to gain.
Once again, logic.
This is why I have no problem disagreeing with you.
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