Happy Marriages/Relationships

@greenboy, I ask this without any malintent, purely out of interest, but what would your vision of a happy marriage and relationship be? What’s your ideal woman? What would make you happy?

And I don’t want anyone picking apart whatever he says, nor do I need a commentary on how you see woman in society today. I’m just interested in, if you had the ability to describe my above question, what would that look like?

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Come on man, what? There’s nothing magical about our relationship other than we like each other and try our best to improve each others life.

Relationships are like fat loss. How to lose fat isn’t complicated, but it takes effort and execution.

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We’ve been over this before. I’m in New England now, which is as specific as I’ll get, but I was born in NYC and have also lived in:

Somerset, NJ
Suburbs of Hartford, CT
San Diego, CA
Richmond, VA
Atlanta, GA
Columbia, SC
Both DFW and Austin, TX

I don’t live in Boston and its surrounds, but I spend a great deal of time there. I regularly spend time in NYC. I also travel a great deal. In the past 12 months I’ve been to Miami Beach and the FL Keys, Spokane WA and Portland OR, Cape Cod, and Belgium, France, and Spain.

My views aren’t formed by having lived my life in East Bumfuck. We’ve been over that.

I actually thought (from reading here, actually) that the “strong women” thing was about the Strong Black Woman meme, and have used it a couple of times at home: “You can’t say that to me, I’m a strong, independent black woman!”

And I was going to identify my ex-husband as being the person I know who is most likely to talk about his work hours like it’s some kind of badge of honor. It’s unappealing no matter who does it. You don’t like your job or they’re too demanding? Change jobs. You can’t do that for reasons that are still probably 100% choice based? Own your choices and STFU, the rest of us don’t want to listen to you moan about your martyrdom.

I think both men and women have interest in the financial health of prospective partners, assuming financial health is of interest to them. It’s not different from gym behavior. A couch potato isn’t going to wonder what prospective dates do to keep themselves in shape, but someone for whom it’s a strong primary value is.

She sounds like a strong woman!

BTW, in case anyone’s wondering, I cooked dinner last night, too. Although it has for some reason become his job to make mashed cauliflower. Like, only he has ever done it. I’m not sure why. Anyway, he did that part. I did the rest. INCLUDING getting his glass of water, which was not required, but he cleaned out the gutters with a ladder yesterday, so I figured I owed it to him.

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You got issues, bro.

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I was going to answer you but look at the following posts underneath… they can’t help but get really personal and nasty so no, I rather not get into that.

The way they get angry you’d think I kicked their dog, or their SO.

My wife is nearly 9 years older.

I fixed that for you.

Pffft so close and you didn’t even ask for restaurant suggestions?

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holyyyyyy … how old are you if you don’t mind me asking?

Lol, whut? There was nothing nasty or personal about you in the next post.

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you replied with “you got issues” … yeah, that’s not personal.

Wow. Okay, dude.

*But seriously, thank you. You’ve reminded me once again why I don’t engage with people like you.

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No shit…

yeah I can only imagine what it’s like for Chinese men. That must be horrid. what’s the male to female ratio over there? like 8-1? ooof

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It has nothing to do with the ratio. Chinese(not all), and Asians with similar cultures(not all) in every country in Asia have been like this all along. The only difference is the demands change along with the economic development of each country.

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You’ve been a lot more personal, to various posters, throughout this forum…

It’s fine, lol. Dude just doesn’t want to answer the question because it opens him up to criticism on a subjective opinion. Most of us can handle that. He apparently cannot and this is just his out.

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I have rarely thrown out the first personal insult… GTFO

cobblers

I appreciate your extra british word choice.

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My wife has a pink-collar job that can be stressful on some days and in regards to parenting and homemaking, as one of my friends put it, “she gets shit done.” Two real-life T-Nation friends comment on how she and her mom really go all out with events, from cooking, to decorating, to theming the event, all that. She will do the dirty work of a man: clean gutters, mow the lawn, pick up tools, all that.

However… despite me finding someone like this, I have had had more then a fair share of men complain about not being able to find a woman that’s nice to be around in the current day. I’m only one guy (n=1, that thing), but I never heard this complaint a long time ago. Guys and girls used to hang out in big cliques back in the day, pre-2005 or so. I don’t see that these days.

I think that such threads aren’t relatable for some people, they still draw many likely because romance is an important area of life. With my Incel threads, there were a few drive by posters who posted something like, “why am I in here?” and “why are we discussing this?” To which Id be inclined to reply, “Uh, excuse me. You’re in here. How about you tell me why?” Or “OK, you’re so attractive you have to fight women off and say you can’t relate. Then what’s your interest in inceldom?

You know I like you so I’m just saying this in context of the conversation.

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Yep, we’ve talked about this before. Being a stay at home mom / taking care of the home front can be very stressful. Imo, it’s more stressful than most jobs today. Certainly most white collar jobs in my experience. My boss has yet to remove his diaper and smear poop on the wall… I have nothing, but respect for stay at homes parents (mam or woman).

I think times are different. In the past a woman pretty much had to find a guy to survive, right? It’s not like they could find a high paying job, generally. That’s not the case now so it doesn’t surprise me that dating dynamics have changed. Imo, people are much more self centered and are so use to / require immediate satisfaction that it doesn’t surprise me at all that both men and women are unsatisfied on the dating scene.

Relationships require work, full stop. They can be very rewarding, but they aren’t easy and sometimes you aren’t immediate satisfied and the high speed Netflix generation can’t deal with that.

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