[quote]sawman wrote:
Brook wrote:
lol sorry fella… let me elaborate.
If you have nolvadex now… get it in you - 40mg a day.
It SOUNDS like you have gynocomastia and you are lactating - producing breast milk. That is caused by a hormone (among others) called Prolactin, which is increased by the Deca (although for Deca to increase this is rare IME).
Caber is a prolactin antagonist… as is B6, except B6 is nowhere as effective as Caber (this isnt personal experience however)…
The constant ache (if it isnt DOMS) could be a sign of your gyno, and if you are getting puffy, pointy tits… well - it is upto you to continue, it could be sensible to stop the Deca at least, which is likely making the estrogen from the sustanon a lot more effective at its job.
It is really not a good idea to start a cycle with test without an AI. Since their introduction into the Bodybuilding world - they have made test as tolerable estrogen wise as Deca, and there should be no reason to get bad cases of gyno.
Still you know for next time doncha.
So in conclusion, knock the deca on the head, possibly reduce the sust to 100mg (0.4ml) 4x/pw… this will ensure steady blood levels, and help with controlling you sides a little - and keep on with the Tamoxifen.
In the meantime order some Arimidex and some caber if you can afford it. Dont get liquid caber as it is unlikely to work. Well, it wont work.
What brands are your AAS? just outta interest.
Brook
My brand is N.V Organon.(Holland)
I will head to the drugstore to get the stuff you suggested thanks. I will hit the Deca on the head. Since I am doing that I can afford the other stuff from the store.I hope it doesnt affect my gains too much. everything is going so good.
What do you suggest I do for my next cycle to be safe on the titty thing. I can get sustanon over the counter.
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Wow. You have reached out and a very patient person is helping you at the moment homey. You’re overdue for some real research yourself. Don’t ask people to “suggest” what compounds to put into yourself if you don’t know wtf is going on with them please.
Read around, get a clue, and then come and ask if one of YOUR suggestions for a cycle sounds good. That will put you miles ahead of your current forum status I am guessing.
In the mean, listen to what brook is telling you, get the nolva going by all means.
I don’t get when you say dropping the deca will allow you to ‘afford’ the other items?? Were you getting it by the shot or what? Or were you just about ready to get another vial or some such thing and now you don’t have to?
Just curious. Good luck and run that nolva high like that until things shrink down, then taper the nolva down week to week until you get to 10mg/day for the final week. Just to be safe from any rebound of estro. I would take this longer approach to your nolva protocol since you’re so sensitive.
I myself am as well, so I can feel your pain too, lol.
Again, good luck with everything dude.
