“But you didn’t see me do the full ATG squats sets last leg workout but yet you judge me.”
Nor would I know if you were rehabbing a bad knee, had congenital issues of balance, an inflexible ankle, or a pulled groin. There are one thousand things I do not know about you and your lift.
But you have conveniently removed my comment from its context.
The OP describes someone who is acting AS a judge and awards a quarter squat (with a spotter) as a full-fledged lift. That is a flawed assessment, untrue, unshared by any powerlifting standard, and a charade that’s going to leave some poor guy deluded that he can squat y when he can’t even squat x.
Yes, there is such a thing as an intentional quarter squat. But a quarter squat is NOT that silly “butt out, head cranked to the ceiling, knees trembing, eyes closed, swaying bar, shoulders drifting forward, lower back rounding, dip briefly, straighten up and rack it” squat. That isn’t any kind of a squat. It’s some kind of sad corruption of a Good Morning.
Is that the way to do quarters? Of course not.
People who intentionally quarter squat adjust the rack to catch themselves. The point of the method is to accustom the muscle to a weight it would not otherwise bear. Really, we load the bar knowing that we can’t really control what we’ve got, so we intentionally limit the bar travel by rack adjustment.
And this is another tell for bad squatting. When I see someone with horrible form, struggling to maintain control of a weight that is clearly too much for him, and he doesn’t even adjust the freaking rack as a pre-caution, yes, I “judge” that man as someone who is training poorly.
Anyone who does good honest squats (even if it’s not a part of his current program) would not take offense at anything they may overhear from me.
5, For the record, I would not speak unless I knew the poor squatter over time.
“Anyways, I don’t really care what someone else lifts…”
Nor do I. I care HOW they lift. Worry about poundages – and what others are thinking – is what gets a poor squatter into his predicament.
I’ve got years of training logs, and somewhere along the way, my squat poundages suddenly dropped – recalibrated – as I had to learn this lesson myself.
[quote]inthego wrote:
GIANT DAN wrote:
inthego, thanks man. I just orderd my “im not here to talk” shirt. Im getting out of the gurage and headed to Inshape City, its a big family gym but membership is covered by my employer. Ive had some great workouts at home but my chest is doing great, so im ready to strap on the I-pod and f#%k some shit up!
Your Solid Dan!
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Monday I was pumping up my lats at in-shape city, sporting my new “animal” shirt. This guy I worked with about 3 years ago comes up to me and starts talking MLB, in mid sentence he starts reading my shirt. He quickly fled the scean! I was just about to let him have it, when my $15.00 investment paid off. I think Im guna order some more “animal” shirts.
[quote]GIANT DAN wrote:
Monday I was pumping up my lats at in-shape city, sporting my new “animal” shirt. This guy I worked with about 3 years ago comes up to me and starts talking MLB, in mid sentence he starts reading my shirt. He quickly fled the scean! I was just about to let him have it, when my $15.00 investment paid off. I think Im guna order some more “animal” shirts.[/quote]
Look Brothers,
Some meditate, other booze it up, a few go to church…
For me to know the rush of power and A sense of being, well that’s a reunion of my family: Brother Iron and Sister Steel…
I do quarter squats. Through
time and training mistakes, I’ve
learned where I’m really prone to injury.
Many years of catching baseball leaves
me with a back that really doesn’t like
to be loaded past a certain point. It
has taken me a while to learn where that point is.
So, instead of doing no squats,
I limit them to a workable range. But,
by no means would I compare my squats to
anybody elses and really couldn’t care
less about somebody comparing theirs to mine. I’ve been challenged by 20 something’s
on my squat technique and tell them, Come see me when you’re 40 and we’ll talk.
"I take particular joy if it’s some guy with ninety-five pounds on the bar who still hits the bucket – some newbie who’s at least doing a legitimate rep – and in the immediate vicinity someone else just finished a bogus 225. (“Glorified knee twitch.” Well said.) "
I was actually doing some front squats the other day, and before I loaded up my weight, I took just the bar and did a few reps, slowly, to get my form down.
The guy in the rack next to mine gave me this look like “pshh what a loser” - so I went along Front squatting my measly 105 with correct form while he completed the “glorified knee twitch” with who knows how many pounds on his back.
The funny thing is his attidute towards me actually made me feel much better about what I was doing becuase I knew that I was doing it the right way - even if I was that newbie with the 105 pounds, I was doing it right, and he was doing it wrong.
Oh and later after my workout one of the trainers came up to me and said he liked how unlike a lot of people, I “left my ego at the door”
I’m glad you had that experience. Keep at it. People do notice good form. Congrats to you and the trainer willing to voice his encouragement. And your quads will always know the difference.
My empathy goes to all who train with injuries and chronic conditions. Now 50, I’m trying to broker some kind of peace with my joints and tendons. The negotiations begin each morning when I get out of bed.
All I can say is that I am in my 40’s and I don’t really care what anyone thinks about me in the gym. I’ve done my time with the ego lifting in the gym and it is counter-productive. I am still in the gym at my age while most of these 20-somethings won’t be there when they get to my age. Screw them!
I only compete against myself. Most of them aren’t as strong as I am now, which is a far cry from where I used to be, and they never will be. Train for yourself, not for others, and definitely not to put your name on some gym chalkboard that will get erased as soon as some crappy lift comes that is higher than your good lift.
Great responses, and all I can do is repeat what has been said. Concerning yourself with what other people think is a waste of your time. Lift safely, lift to get strong and healthy, and remember you aren’t lifting weights for them.
Bodybuilders - even casual ones - seem to have a weird sensitivity to what other people think, to a degree that is often counterproductive.
You don’t owe them anything - you do owe yourself, though, so demand payment with full interest. Wherever you lift, enjoy the lift for the sake of it - the rest of the gym be damned.
Find a gym where real powerlifters train if you want to track records and compete.These people will lift to a consistant standard and the numbers will mean somthing.While im at it I will point out that I have observed that people who train sloppy are built sloppy and people that do quarter lifts have a quarter of a build.
[quote]GIANT DAN wrote:
Scotacus wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
I don’t care if I train in a luxury gym or a crack house, as long as I’m working towards my goals.
Do notwork out in a crack house, they hog the bench.
Its all good, just drop some chalk on the floor, by the squat rack, no one is ever on it, and the crack heads will be all over it![/quote]
Yea Just use the chalk for the out line of the dude that did not pay his membership dues on time…
