You can’t nowadays. I have seen it many times where kids (mainly teens in high school) who defend themselves end up in as much if not more trouble than the aggressor.
No, I mean I didn’t know that it was even actually possible.
I was a weird kid. 
My son has clocked a couple of kids. One pair was bullying other kids and teamed up on him. He backed them down immediately.
He did lose recess for one day, but nothing disproportionate.
I dunno. A couple of my neighbors wear them (milfs, not kids) and I appreciate their effort towards self confidence and expression. 
Its when they start preening and bending over in front of you that I consider it presentation behavior. They’ll do that when they’re fertile.
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I hope I never have to deal with this, but I will raise my kids to stand up for themselves and to bullies.
I will gladly step in after the fact and use every legal resource in my power to make the kids, the school, and their parents lives a living hell if they try to act stupid.
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They are fortunate enough to have an attorney for a dad.
I got a disorderly conduct ticket (high school circa 2005) for throwing the kid who shoved me in the hall into a locker after months of bullying. I could have stayed and pounded his face in but I walked away. I got suspended and had to do community service to make the ticket disappear. He got a slap on the wrist and detention…
My parents didn’t care though since I told them I was going to defend myself next time. I celebrated by going fishing on my suspension days.
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As a woman, I don’t support dressing provocatively for its own sake, but I do think that women should be allowed to dress comfortably, even if that means showing more skin than some may deem appropriate.
In the context of a commercial gym, there is no reason to be 1/2 nude given adequate air conditioning. In an un air conditioned gym in the summer? Less clothes is probably warranted even if it shows “too much skin”
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I don’t think you’ll find any straight men complaining about grown women dressing to show more skin 
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I just don’t get women that wear the least amount possible then complain about people looking.
If you are attractive and going to show it, it’s normal for people to look / admire it.
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Can you honestly tell me though that those booty shorts where half ones ass is hanging out of are comfortable? Leggings, compression gear, I understand all that.
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There is one female at my gym that is near my age, 3 kids, no dad around, desperately seeking somebody to pay her way.
100% she is very pretty and in phenomenal shape, but yeah she wears shorts she’s constantly having to dig out of her ample ass - can’t be comfortable.
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nope, I do not condone that kind of dress
exactly
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Agreed 1000 percent
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This is generally what I’ve seen, which flies in the face of the notion, “but if you’re strict, they’re gonna rebel!,” which implies one should do nothing in such a situation. I’ve considered covering this in the fatherhood thread. I’d rather not derail this thread.
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I think that as parents its up to us to install a moral reference. They’ll rebel somewhat anyways, but unless theres some real damage, they’ll return to those reference points.
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Spot on.
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What I’ve also seen is some greatly rebelling because the parents didn’t care.
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Yep, as long we lived under their roof, we had to follow their rules
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Which is 100% fair.
Teaches respect and good life lessons for life too.
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Later on when we were all older we actually thanked mom and dad for raising us the way they did…the five of us
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Same here.
I’m the oldest of 4.
They have an attorney, college professor, high level engineer / coder, and the youngest about to graduate medical school.
They were parents and not our friends until we were grown and their job was done.
I can’t thank them enough. Especially now that I have my own children - I see what they did and sacrificed to do right by us no matter how hard it was.
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That causes damage.
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