Guy beating a woman

Cyp,

Why didn’t you run up to the man and give him the thrashing of his life?

Pick a reason: 1). You would be arrested. 2). The woman would turn on you, and help the man! 3). The man would kick the crap out of you and no one would help. 4). The man would pull a gun or another weapon and you would be meeting your maker for lunch instead of your girlfriend.

There are other such scenarios, none of them to good. I used to be a Policeman and I can tell you from experience that the worst situation that you can get yourself into is a fight between a man and a woman!

I once answered a call where a similar situation was taking place, at the couples home. I heard the commotion, went in and immediately grabbed the guy by the back of the arms and wrestled him off of the woman.

After the woman got up she began beating me over the back with both of her hands, as if I was a large base drum! Needless to say I was irritated. Another Police Officer came in at that moment and grabbed the woman.

While we do not know for sure if your situation was between a “couple”. This is not a rare occurence. Many domestic situations end up in strange situations.

With that said, I am not suggesting that you or anyone else allow someone who is helpless to be beaten while you look on. However, the best course of action is to immideately alert the police,(or security of some kind). Good chance they may have seen this act before from that couple and know how to handle it. If not, they are still trained, armed and ready to handle the situation far better than you.

If you cannot get to a Police Officer or security guard of some kind, at least attempt to recruit some help before you go charging in. Chances are if you can get an additional two or three guys to aid you the offender may back down before any further trouble ensues.

And you watched while she bled?

A woman named Kitty ? was killed on the streets of NYC about 20 years ago with several dozen people watching, none of whom did anything to stop it. As a consequence, a law was passed making it illegal to be just an “innocent” bystander. That doesn’t mean that you have to take a bullet for someone but you do have a duty to summon help or face arrest. I don’t know if anyone has actually been charged under the law or not. To stand by and watch is unforgivable. These people, and perhaps you are included in that group, I hope not, will regret their passivity the rest of their lives. Most will never admit to having witnessed the despicable act.

so the question is…why didn’t you step in…wait for a different bus…be a man and stop the senseless beating?

And when you arrived at the scene after sprinting as fast as you could, what did you do?

my only questions is…you stated you witnessed this while waiting for a bus…wehy not skip your bus for a few minutes and intercede…I am sure the woman who was receiving punches to her face would have appreciated it. Why wait for someone else to step in…right there (waitining for someone else to do something) described the inequities we observe in this world.

why did you not do anything then?

why didnt you go kick his ass?!

and you didn’t do anything because???

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What kind of a world are we living in when such things are allowed to happen in public view? [/quote]

The same kind of world that has men that would walk right by that and pretend they didn’t see it because they’re afraid they’d get hurt themselves.

That absolutely would not happen in front of me.

That’s ridiculous. People should step in to help – of course, it doesn’t help in this country when they’re afraid they will be sued if they hurt the attacker.

Anyway though, here’s an example of the opposite occuring:

Students subdue teacher’s attacker
Heritage high teens disarm man with knife

By DONNA WILLIAMS LEWIS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Debbie Shultz’s class had just finished a Spanish II final exam Wednesday morning when the door to their trailer burst open with a bang.

Shultz’s estranged husband stood wild-eyed in the doorway, teeth gritted, pausing almost for dramatic effect, she recalled. Then he rushed toward her, she said, raising a large knife toward her chest.

That’s when Shultz’s students, 16- and 17-year-old kids, went to her rescue. Several of the youngsters tackled the man, pinning him to the floor and wresting the knife from his hand.

“Those kids are my heroes. I believe God used them to save my life,” Shultz, 46, said Wednesday evening, recuperating at home with stitches in her hand and leg where her assailant slashed her with the knife.

“I’m sorry that they were called upon to do such a huge job so early in their lives, but without them I wouldn’t be alive.”

The scene Wednesday at Rockdale County’s Heritage High School, with news trucks and helicopters circling the campus, was an eerie reminder of spring 1999, when a 15-year-old boy opened fire at the school, shooting six students before surrendering to an assistant principal.

Shultz was there then. She remembers running across T.J. Solomon’s line of fire to warn members of the Fellowship of Christian Youth, meeting nearby, not to leave their classroom.

But school and law enforcement officials emphasized that Wednesday’s attack grew out of a domestic dispute and no students were in immediate danger.

Theodore Franklin Shultz, 51, of Conyers is being held in the Rockdale County Jail on charges of aggravated assault, aggravated stalking, cruelty to children, disrupting a school and carrying a weapon on school property.

Debbie Shultz said she is in the final stages of divorcing her husband of seven years and had a restraining order against him. She said her husband had been released Monday from a mental institution that failed to notify her.

A couple of weeks earlier, police were called to a Conyers Wal-Mart after Theodore Shultz grabbed an unloaded shotgun off a shelf and brandished it.

Class reacted quickly

Heritage High Principal Greg Fowler praised the students who went to Debbie Shultz’s aid.

“They love Ms. Shultz,” Fowler said. “When a teacher has a relationship with the students, this is the payoff.”

Nimesh Patel, 17, was taking a nap after finishing his final when he heard screaming and the scampering of fleeing students. He saw his teacher trying to fend off her assailant.

“I froze there for a second. Me and a couple of other guys grabbed him and threw him to the ground and basically sat on him until the cops came,” he said.

Several other students helped Patel subdue the attacker. They included Austin Hutchinson, 16; John Bailey, 16; Andy Anderson, 17; Matt Battaglia, 17; and Scott Wigington, 17.

As Hutchinson saw the man pull the knife, “I thought I could run like the rest of the people or I could help,” the student said. “It’s just not right leaving her there.”

Hutchinson and Wigington, son of Rockdale County Sheriff Jeff Wigington, were the first to reach the assailant. Wigington grabbed the hand holding the knife.

The others helped push the man to the ground, at which point Wigington took the knife away from him. The six boys then kept him pinned to the ground.

Patel said Debbie Shultz, who helped pin the man down, didn’t want to leave the room.

“She was scared he would hurt us. We told her to get out,” said Patel. “She was more worried about us than herself.”

Back in school today?

After the assailant was taken into custody, the students were provided counseling and allowed to go home if they wanted. Patel remained in school to take his chemistry and history finals.

Shultz hugged her sobbing students as she was taken away, letting them know she was OK.

She said she plans to return to her classroom today – after she goes by the courthouse to sign final papers for her divorce.

“I’m definitely going to school tomorrow, to thank my kids for being heroes, to let them know I’m OK and that bad things happen to good people.”

Staff writers Jen Sansbury and Ben Smith contributed to this article

there’s no way in hell that would happen around me or anyone i would call a friend. the only way to counteract that type of behavior is to execute the perpetrator unless there happens to be some divine intervention in his life to take away whatever is seriously wrong with him.

fortunately, i’ve only seen that happen once and a buddy got to him before i did and just stone cold knocked him out. when he came to we kept him in fear of ever doing it again.

but verbal and mental abuse is just as bad and i’ve had to render a few people helpless just because of that…i don’t know if it was the right thing to do, but that is one thing that i have no tolerance for. i feel bad for women that get stuck in cycles of that stuff.

You didnt do much about the situation now did you. I dont blame you, but it seems weird that you are mentioning how nobody did anything when you were one of the people witnessing the whole thing. I have to admit the world is getting a lot more violent. I live in Toronto and it seems every year there are more and more murders in the city.

Seriously though, for someone to do something like that to a lady, in the middle of a very busy part of town, with no thought as to getting noticed or punished, he must have been either really stupid or a very important figure in Austria that nobody wanted to mess with. Maybe he was a mobster.

Forget about the others.

What did YOU do about it?

Why didn’t you help?

I used to be a reporter with Bombay Times, a city-based supplement of Times of India. One of our reporters was on a train when he witnessed a 30-something man raping a 14-15 year old girl. He didn’t fight the man, or pull the chain (which alerts the Railway police) on the wall, but just watched the incident. After the incident, the police caught the culprit, and this reporter came back to the office and filed the report. Pretty weird that was.

What did you do?

“No-one had the balls to confront this man assaulting a helpless lady.”

Yeah, no-one, including you!

uhhh why didnt you do something?

So why didn’t you walk over and help out? At least yell something over to distract the guy, then walk over.