[quote]poper wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
poper wrote:
That guy is listening to Lamb of God while he lifts.
What’s your point?
My point is exactly that, he’s listening to lamb of God. I’m not allowed to speak my mind?
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The statement seemed devoid of meaning because it lacked either “Lamb of God is great.” or “Lamb of God is terrible.” or anything remotely similar to one of those two extremes. You didn’t give your preference for or against the music. Do you see what I mean?
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
Why did you say that I was going to “die or at least get seriously hurt?” there? Were you threatening my life because of my poor lifting form?[/quote]
Haha, no, the die part was a sarcastic exaggeration. I’ve seen the effects that the form in the videos you posted has, though. It may feel fine now, but relying almost entirely on your glutes and erectors to accomplish lifts that should be leg dominant will cause severe problems 5 or 10 years down the road.
I’m all for busting ass and going balls to wall in competition; you do what you need to do to get the weight up to win. Training isn’t the same way though - the purpose of training is to maintain health and improve performance and strength, not demonstrate strength. Getting injured that way is one wheel I don’t need to reinvent.
I hate to see guys like you who honestly have a lot of potential heading down the road of chronic serious injury. You’ll just never do as well as you can if you don’t correct serious problems, like not engaging your legs well on lifts like deads and cleans, early on.
Take the advice if you want, don’t if you don’t want, I know a lot of other guys have said this to you before. Up to you.
-Dan
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
Why did you say that I was going to “die or at least get seriously hurt?” there? Were you threatening my life because of my poor lifting form?
Haha, no, the die part was a sarcastic exaggeration. I’ve seen the effects that the form in the videos you posted has, though. It may feel fine now, but relying almost entirely on your glutes and erectors to accomplish lifts that should be leg dominant will cause severe problems 5 or 10 years down the road.
I’m all for busting ass and going balls to wall in competition; you do what you need to do to get the weight up to win. Training isn’t the same way though - the purpose of training is to maintain health and improve performance and strength, not demonstrate strength. Getting injured that way is one wheel I don’t need to reinvent.
I hate to see guys like you who honestly have a lot of potential heading down the road of chronic serious injury. You’ll just never do as well as you can if you don’t correct serious problems, like not engaging your legs well on lifts like deads and cleans, early on.
Take the advice if you want, don’t if you don’t want, I know a lot of other guys have said this to you before. Up to you.
-Dan[/quote]
That makes sense. I’m willing to take advice from anyone that isn’t being cruel and making fun of me.
I’m going to be doing box squats which should increase leg strength and improve my squat form. I’m also going to do rack pulls to help my deadlift lockout strength and I’m trying to make sure my legs don’t lock out too early when I deadlift. This should help me to not round my back.
I hope to see you there in Pittsburgh. What division are you going to be competing in? I will be in the Novice Lightweight division, like in October.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
I’m going to be doing box squats which should increase leg strength and improve my squat form. I’m also going to do rack pulls to help my deadlift lockout strength and I’m trying to make sure my legs don’t lock out too early when I deadlift. This should help me to not round my back.
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Definately a good start. I’d look into making sure you don’t have flexibility issues in the hamstrings/calves/glutes as well… though I doubt it from your axle front squat video. A quick run through the stretches on the “Get Your Butt in Gear” articles would confirm it.
My take on trying to improve leg strength/correct firing patterns is to use full squats and split squats. Box squats are still to easy to cheat on without realizing it IMO. In full squats, if you try to cheat, you fall over or kiss your knees.
In split squats, if you try to cheat, it’s pretty easy to feel yourself pop up onto your toes. In box squats, if you cheat, it feels remarkably similar to a decent goodmorning, which doesn’t feel wrong to most people.
If you post some vids directly from the side it’d be easy to tell if your cheating at the box squats though, since the bar would travel forward beyond the middle of your foot.
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I hope to see you there in Pittsburgh. What division are you going to be competing in? I will be in the Novice Lightweight division, like in October.[/quote]
We’ll have to see how my lower back weakness correction goes - don’t know if you saw it but I posted about a pretty huge imbalance between my left and right side in another thread. Basically, I was squatting and deadlifting on one leg for 5 years but you wouldn’t know it to look at my form. Took some pretty specific assessments and a lot of self-honesty to figure it out.
Anyway, I want to enter 200lbs open if the rehab goes quickly, but I’m not going to rush it for the sake of the contest. If it goes more slowly than I hope, I’ll end up having to do 200 novice.
-Dan
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
I’m going to be doing box squats which should increase leg strength and improve my squat form. I’m also going to do rack pulls to help my deadlift lockout strength and I’m trying to make sure my legs don’t lock out too early when I deadlift. This should help me to not round my back.
Definately a good start. I’d look into making sure you don’t have flexibility issues in the hamstrings/calves/glutes as well… though I doubt it from your axle front squat video. A quick run through the stretches on the “Get Your Butt in Gear” articles would confirm it.
My take on trying to improve leg strength/correct firing patterns is to use full squats and split squats. Box squats are still to easy to cheat on without realizing it IMO. In full squats, if you try to cheat, you fall over or kiss your knees.
In split squats, if you try to cheat, it’s pretty easy to feel yourself pop up onto your toes. In box squats, if you cheat, it feels remarkably similar to a decent goodmorning, which doesn’t feel wrong to most people.
If you post some vids directly from the side it’d be easy to tell if your cheating at the box squats though, since the bar would travel forward beyond the middle of your foot.
I hope to see you there in Pittsburgh. What division are you going to be competing in? I will be in the Novice Lightweight division, like in October.
We’ll have to see how my lower back weakness correction goes - don’t know if you saw it but I posted about a pretty huge imbalance between my left and right side in another thread. Basically, I was squatting and deadlifting on one leg for 5 years but you wouldn’t know it to look at my form. Took some pretty specific assessments and a lot of self-honesty to figure it out.
Anyway, I want to enter 200lbs open if the rehab goes quickly, but I’m not going to rush it for the sake of the contest. If it goes more slowly than I hope, I’ll end up having to do 200 novice.
-Dan[/quote]
Thanks a lot for the advice. That should help.
I will definitely record at least a few box squat videos and try to get a good angle, so you can evaluate my form.
Good luck with your contest training and rehab work. You will probably do well, regardless of whether you compete in Novice or Open. 
What does ammonia do?
“In box squats, if you cheat, it feels remarkably similar to a decent goodmorning, which doesn’t feel wrong to most people.”
Now I hate to hijack DW’s thread but I’d like to know more about this.
I recently did a ME day with box squats and on my last couple of sets I noticed myself doing more of a goodmorning with my squats.
Does this mean my posterior chain is weak or is just my lack of strength off the box?
[quote]noahfor wrote:
What does ammonia do?[/quote]
Ammonia triggers the release of adrenaline.
[quote]Mule359 wrote:
“In box squats, if you cheat, it feels remarkably similar to a decent goodmorning, which doesn’t feel wrong to most people.”
Now I hate to hijack DW’s thread but I’d like to know more about this.
I recently did a ME day with box squats and on my last couple of sets I noticed myself doing more of a goodmorning with my squats.
Does this mean my posterior chain is weak or is just my lack of strength off the box?[/quote]
You just need to sit back more.
[quote]Mule359 wrote:
Does this mean my posterior chain is weak or is just my lack of strength off the box?[/quote]
Could be 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Does this happen when you do normal free-squats? If it does, weak posterior chain, if not, you’re probably just altering your squat form when you use a box.
There’s also the possibility you’re simply leaning too far forward; I know I was guilty of that when I first tried box squats. Do your shins actually go back beyond perpendicular to the floor? I know that’s hard to tell yourself - have someone watch to see if they do, and if so, you’re actually sitting too far back. Actively sitting back hard works well when you’re wearing a squat suit, but if not, it’s pretty easy to mess up a little. Any chance you could post a few pics of yourself on the box (with just the bar)?
-Dan
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
noahfor wrote:
What does ammonia do?
Ammonia triggers the release of adrenaline.[/quote]
Yeah - it screwed me up because I shot myself WAY beyond my optimal level of arousal. I attacked the log like I’ve never attacked a lift before - very poorly with no concentration. Looking at tape of the event, I made all sorts of stupid mistakes I just shouldn’t have and I hadn’t made before. Works for some guys, but not for me.
Also, using too much too often can cause some pretty serious health problems. It’s best left for occasional use.
-Dan
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Also, using too much too often can cause some pretty serious health problems. It’s best left for occasional use.
-Dan[/quote]
Yeah, I rarely use my Nose Tork.
[quote]Mule359 wrote:
“In box squats, if you cheat, it feels remarkably similar to a decent goodmorning, which doesn’t feel wrong to most people.”
Now I hate to hijack DW’s thread but I’d like to know more about this.
I recently did a ME day with box squats and on my last couple of sets I noticed myself doing more of a goodmorning with my squats.
Does this mean my posterior chain is weak or is just my lack of strength off the box?[/quote]
It could be either. Generally when you cheat you end up cheating towards a stronger motor pattern than a weaker one because it helps you move the weight. So, if you turn box squats into good mornings it could mean that your good morning firing pattern is stronger than your squat pattern. I feel it more in my low back, as I can bottoms up good morning 85% of what I box squat. My legs are the weak point out of the hole, and my low back is bullet proof.
On the flip side, something I’ve noticed is that it could also be a weakness in your ability to isometrically arch your back and hold it there. Or you’re not sitting back far enough. Can you feel your hamstrings stretch out at the bottom? If not, then it may be that you’re sitting down and not back, which puts more strain on your already stronger low back to get it out of the hole and makes you tip forward. Break your hips first on the way down, and punch them way back. Think of it almost like a bastardized version of a romanian deadlift. Once you’ve got the hips breaking back first, the trick is to keep the chest out and the head up, with your elbows tucked as far under the bar as possible, to keep the pressure on your hammies and glutes.
I just wasted a good deal of my life browsing through the original Diesel Weasel thread, and I believe he might be the single dumbest human on the Eastern Seaboard.
Second: all of us for talking to him.
This is my first post. I have seen The Diesels lifting clips and had to comment. The fact that he does not get hurt or strain his back is his motivation for continuing to up the poundage. He does get credit for being able to hold 3X BW without straps while shrugging and hitching. With the proper coaching you never know with this guy, he is hungry.
these are the dumbest fucking videos i have ever seen. i want those seconds of my life back. what a waste
I saw the vids - and I’m spechless
DW, your motivation is astounding.
Also, you’re not weak.
But the form is the worst I’ve ever seen.
Back of your routine for a least three months, drop AT LEAST 100 pounds from each lift and do them how they’re supposed to be done.
Strenghten your weak points and forget this fancy gear or those bizarre experimental lifts.
Good Luck!
oh shit, he’s on track.
http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_deadlift_mixed_370x1
i fucken love this. he’s been keeping a log on a rather good PL/strongman forum and has really cleaned up his form. i thought he would never change, and by ‘never’ i mean NEVER.
looks like i’m wrong and i’m glad. let’s hope Max keeps it up.
Awesome Max on that last video. You’ve really cleaned up your form. It takes a strong man to beat his own ego and I give you props.
Keep it up bro.
[quote]wufwugy wrote:
http://media.putfile.com/max_axle_deadlift_mixed_370x1
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That is a TON better. Awesome start on fixing your form.
There’s only really two things I would change, one may not actually be needed (hard to tell with the camera angle):
A) The one that may not be needed is start with your knees just a little bit wider. It looks like they may be buckled in just a little at the start, putting too much of the stress on your tendons. A shot from the front would be helpful to see if this is actually happening.
B) This one isn’t safety so much as efficiency. It looks like you’ve overreacted just a little bit in regards to using leg strength more than back strength; when you get the bar past your knees, really throw your shoulders back in addition to pushing the hips through. It’ll allow the lift to be completed a little faster and help clean up the lockout a little.
Awesome start DW - best of luck in your continued efforts.
-Dan