[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
I am not defending the womans actions in any way, but-
When you sit down at the movie theater, and watch 300, please react with the same disgust when you see the spartans killing the deformed babies.
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In one hand you have a movie, and in the other you have real life… hmmm
Could this be taken any further off topic?
[quote]dre wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
You think thats bad?
Here in Virginia,where I live,there was a case much like that one.
The only difference is after the women finished cooking the baby,she gave it to her husband to eat. After taking a bite or two,he simply asked," Hunny,where is our baby?"
She gave him no answer,and was acting quite oblivious to what had just happened.
He then went into the kids room and the baby was not there.
He later found out what had happened and got really sick.
That was it.
I never heard of that women again. They didn’t even print it in the local news paper.
No way. Seriously, that’s not possible.
I bet you heard this from a friend, who heard it from their friend, who heard it from their friend…etc, etc, etc.
I refuse to believe that something like that can happen.
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No,it happened.
My brother inlaw is a Police officer.
He went to the call.
[quote]dead_lifter5000 wrote:
I think the article read “aggravated child abuse”- WTF!!! How bout attempted fucking murder.[/quote]
It’s impossible for a mother to murder her child. But anyone else could murder the kid, which is why a killer get’s charged with double murder if he offs a mother on her way to the abortion clinic. Count it.
[quote]blitzkrg wrote:
catholics dont get a say, they molest little boys…
(only kidding)
so if the koran is so peaceful, why then are they all screaming “Allahu Akbar” and then blowing them selves up?
i’ve seen PLENTY of footage of groups of muslims all over the world screaming death to the USA death to the USA…
we have iran telling the world, they will wipe american and isreal off the map…
sooooo peaceful, i know… it’s just ooozing from every oraface.
why are 5 years olds holding machine guns and screaming they will be a martyr.
why do the sunni’s and shite hate each other…
those people cant decide if they hate americans or each other more.
why did saddam gas the kurds?
why did iran and iraq go to war?
yeah we got our problems over here, but those people are anything but peaceful.
their women are not peaceful either, they are opressed and told to shut the fuck up… i’m sure if they were allowed to talk, they’d be crazy too. (only because all women are crazy)
but they dont get a pass just because they arent allowed to leave the house.
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Let me preface this by saying the extremist terrorists are animals, and whatever punishment they get will be better than they deserve.
But, to say their religion is responsible for their actions is letting them off the hook. The issue with middle eastern instability has nothing to do with what religion is dominant over there, it’s got to do with the region itself. You could substitute any religion into that pressure cooker and people would start blowing themselves up in its name.
The same goes for the US. The US is peaceful because it’s the richest, most luxurious country in the world. If most americans were muslims, then you’d never, ever hear talk of the Koran encouraging people to violence.
People like Bin Laden just use the muslim religion & jihad as lightning rods… everything that’s evil & violent about terrorism comes from the sickos running the show.
[quote]lazyaxus11 wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I am not defending the womans actions in any way, but-
When you sit down at the movie theater, and watch 300, please react with the same disgust when you see the spartans killing the deformed babies.
In one hand you have a movie, and in the other you have real life… hmmm
Could this be taken any further off topic?
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Are you kidding? This one is easy. Killing real babies is every bit as disgusting as pretending to kill fake babies. Since any reasonable person would not be terribly put out by the thought of an actor pretending to kill a fake baby, therefore, same person should not be offended at the thought of a real person really killing a real baby. Come on, this is light weight. LIGHT WEIGHT, BABY!
I’ll give the abbreviated version of what I think should happen to people such as this woman. Tie her spread eagle to a four post bed, face up. Insert one cattle prod or curling Iron in her ass. Plug it in, walk away, and mic her own screams back into said room at 110 Decibels.
I would say 99% of religions have 99% nice messages and 1% kill messages. If people want to listen to the one percent, let them.
I’m not gonna be here to debate this, so call me back when its not too soon for dead baby jokes.
It is too soon for dead baby jokes, right?
[quote]PGA wrote:
After reading the second link…put her in the oven.[/quote]
fully agree
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
smallnomore wrote:
Great post. The Christian Bible has it’s fair share of that kind of talk:
Hmm, perhaps you can try “context,” and see if what you cite comprises general instructions true for general situations, or refers to a specific situation and not generally.
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Ah, yes, “context”: The great shield and defender of all hideous acts encouraged and sanctioned by the Christian Bible.
Even when you give three whole verses leading up to the one blatantly telling you to kill a non-believer, as smallnomore did, you will always need more “context”.
Unless “thou shalt surely kill him” was actually meant to read, “thou shalt give him a dozen roses and a hand job”, and the monks translating the Bible into English just had a little too much wine at dinner that night, I don’t see how you can spin this to mean anything except what it says.
people like this deserve the same type of treatment
stuff that retard in a pizza oven and weld it shut.
we’re greasing babies now? what is the world coming to. someone think of the children!
“so if the koran is so peaceful, why then are they all screaming “Allahu Akbar” and then blowing them selves up?”
If they “all” blew themselves up, you wouldn’t have a problem. They’d all be dead.
I have plenty of muslim friends who are damn good people. They’re also a lot more peaceful and nicer than my white christian friends.
Someone mentioned that every current war in the world involves muslims on one side. Looking at major conflict zones, we have: eastern europe, asia (non-middle eastern), middle east/norteast africa, central america, and south america. I see one out of five of those areas that are predominantly muslim.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
SWR-1240 wrote:
Anyone NOT for capitol punishment in this case?
I say we keep the bitch in jail, then when the baby’s about 14, let him give her the syringe.
That bitch is fucked up.[/quote]
Haha Yes!
Take a deep thought for a moment… How does one go about thinking of a plan to but a baby in an oven? Like that would never even pop in my mind, let alone DOING it. I know the person is mentally ill, but still, how is that even considered a good idea to a retard?
[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Ah, yes, “context”: The great shield and defender of all hideous acts encouraged and sanctioned by the Christian Bible.
Even when you give three whole verses leading up to the one blatantly telling you to kill a non-believer, as smallnomore did, you will always need more “context”.
Unless “thou shalt surely kill him” was actually meant to read, “thou shalt give him a dozen roses and a hand job”, and the monks translating the Bible into English just had a little too much wine at dinner that night, I don’t see how you can spin this to mean anything except what it says.[/quote]
Digital, it’s a shame you have such a negative view regarding the Christian and Jewish religions; of course you’re entitled to do so but that doesn’t give ridiculous statements along those lines any validity, nor false statements such as claiming that, for example, what I wrote was “spin.”
Perhaps it’s just lack of knowledge (along with bias) and you actually don’t know the context, thus you act as if it’s irrelevant to point it out.
The context is this: Not one of these Biblical instructions to kill those that were enemies against them in their own country was an instruction to go seek out people minding their own business and living in their own countries and kill them for not belonging to the Jewish religion.
In contrast to the Koranic teaching that throughout all the world, anyone who does not submit to Islam is properly killed, and the murderer receiving maximum unique reward from their God for doing so. Grasp the difference?
The situation was not unlike with Palestinian terrorists. For example, in the war back in the 70s where the PLO was driven back onto a spit of land of Lebanon and could have all been destroyed, a foolish decision was made to allow them to retreat and attack another day. For the sake of the nation, these dedicated enemies of the nation – murderous terrorists, all of them – should have been killed.
That is NOT equivalent, no matter how much you want it to be, to Muslim terrorists and their Koran teaching to murder unbelievers throughout the world, for all time everywhere not specific cases of murderous enemies within their nation.
The “spin” is folk like you who try to portray the Jewish and Christian religious texts as allegedly murderous (deliberately failing to make the distinction between killing necessary in war or for other reasons e.g. extreme criminal acts, and murder, not the same things) and the Koran as being allegedly a book of peace.
Sorry, there are tens of thousands, if not more, of murderous terrorists who will tell you specifically it’s the Koran that motivates them to murder Americans (and Jews), and they are in fact guilty of committing this terrorist, so all these excuses that their religion allegedly does not teach this, let alone attempts at moral equivalism trying to claim the Christian and Jewish are equally bad or worse, is just far beyond what any rational mind should be putting out, and is easily enough, and already has been, refuted.
Give it a rest – calling the Koran a messsage of peace and trying to pretend the Bible teaches killing people for not being Christians or Jews, reflects ONLY on yourself, not on any actuality, and in a time when Islamic terrorists are killing Americans based on that Koran, frankly it disgusts me to see this attempt to prop up those teachings. Of course, whatever enemy
America has, there’s always going to be the Jane Fondas who will tout that the enemy is good, will adore that enemy, and will excoriate America and any belief widely held by Middle America. Absurd statements are one thing, but false statements made with a motivation like that – to be an apologist for a murderous enemy – deserve to be pointed out for just what they are.
And exactly why you and others are trying to prop up the Koran as allegedly being peaceful, and attack the Jewish and Christian religious for supposedly being murderous or having murderous teachings, is beyond anyone’s ability to figure out how it’s relevant to this thread?
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
And yes, the oven was turned ON when the baby was found!
Anyone NOT for capitol punishment in this case?
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I say we tie her up in times square, and charge people $100 to hit her with a wiffle bat. Slow, painful, and public, the kind of death someone like this deserves.
What does this have to do with religion?
I don’t know of any major religion that says you should put your baby in an oven.
Even God stopped Isiah from sacrificing his kid.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
What does this have to do with religion?
I don’t know of any major religion that says you should put your baby in an oven.
Even God stopped Isiah from sacrificing his kid.[/quote]
Just like God stopped this chick from broiling her baby. Let’s hope God will squish her insides out so we don’t have to worry about her anymore.
Just a little message for Bill, try really reading the koran. If you had, you might have come across: “Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors.”
Or:
“Those who believe, and those who follow the Jewish, and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.”
And this thing about hating christianity? Really sounds like it, doesn’t it?:
"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
Let’s not forget the crusades, the Irish dispute, etc. And if you don’t want people in the middle east to hate you, here’s a little hint: Attacking two countries located there and threating war on a third might not be doing much for your image.
As for the “300 is just a movie” comment, well sure it is. That doesn’t change the fact that babies with physical disabilities were killed by the Spartans. They also left the corpses of warriors with wounds in their back to rot on the battlefield because it was dishonourable to die that way.
Also, I realize that I didn’t really comment on the main topic of the thread, but I don’t think an act like that even needs to be discussed. Let me also state that I’m a christian and lived in America for three years. I love the country and don’t want to offend anybody, but I don’t agree with the current political leadership.
On that note: Gentlemen, start your engines, may the flaming begin!
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Even God stopped Isiah from sacrificing his kid.[/quote]
God said to ABRAHAM, “Kill me a son”.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Even God stopped Isiah from sacrificing his kid.
God said to ABRAHAM, “Kill me a son”.
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Man, you must be puttin’ me on.