Gotta Love Max Charles

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
we’ve seen this stuff time and time again. there ARE standards across the board for lifts like squats, deads, bench press and overhead pressing. everyone knows what they are but many will argue otherwise just to be difficult. full ROM is expected and when it’s not there it’s obviously to everyone.

i can’t believe these debats go on forever. it’s either full ROM or a partial lift regardless of what you are doing it for.

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Most pro bodybuilders use partial lifts. No one would even be able to discuss what they are doing in the gym if the only thing that counted was some lift by powerlifting judge standards.

This is bodybuilding. No one gives a shit if it is a partial lift if the guy doing it has gained more muscle than any of the people talking shit.

It obviously works for him and therefore should not be changed. It should also be common sense that powerlifting judgements should remain IN POWERLIFTING AND OUTSIDE OF BODYBUILDING.[/quote]

i ain’t scared of your post count X LOL

it’s because i’m white…isn’t it?? LOL

I’m not going to argue with you. what i said is common sense and to argue otherwise IS retarded.
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I am arguing because if I say I am doing an overhead press with a certain amount of weight and you come along bitching that it is a “partial rep” I am going to say “who the fuck cares because those partial reps are why my shoulders are this big”.

Get it?

No one gives a shit about textbook powerlifting form in bodybuilding because the GOAL is to build big muscles, not win a powerlifting comp.

Understand?[/quote]

i can’t believe i let myself get sucked into this useless shit…

this is the last i’m going to say about this crap-

i don’t care what got you or anyone else as big as they are. he could jerk off with 45lb plates strapped to his forearms for all i care if that gets him bigger.

the point is if anyone, regardless of what the fuck they do, says they can deadlift 1000 plus for reps it better actually be a fucking deadlift and not some 3 inch ROM in a rack somewhere. that’s just common sense. any douchebag on youtube seeing a video title saying “deadlift 1000lb for reps” is going to expect to see someone picking up 1000+ off the ground and if they don’t see that, there’s going to be a shitstorm of comments a mile long on why it isn’t a deadlift. these aren’t “experts” or powerlifters. these are just people that actually saw someone do a deadlift at some point in time. those poeple aren’t going to say-“well… he’s pretty fucking big, so we will just let that be called a deadlift then” that makes no fucking sense at all.

i actually feel dumber now…thanks.
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You didn’t need any help from me with that.

This is not powerlifting. According to you, there is no way I can even discuss my training in relation to weight used because I am not lifting by powerlifting standards.

Why is anyone in bodybuilding caring about how strict a lift is done when that isn’t the goal?

He does partial reps. Polumbo said this and Charles said this…so why is everyone else making this an issue?

MOST of my lifts may count as “partial reps”. That doesn’t mean they don’t count or that I should never speak about the weight I use for fear of some jackass saying it doesn’t count as a real lift.

If someone is that big, what they are dong WORKS and that is ALL that matters.[/quote]

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wow…

we have about as much of a chance seeing eye to eye as you have leaning out and competing.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

Here’s one… you say Jay’s waist is wide and looks like crap but Kai’s waist is only big because he eats a lot of food and isn’t a big deal.[/quote]

Kai’s waist didn’t look wide on stage which is what matters. No one cares if his stomach sticks out when over 300;lbs and gaining.

Jay does have a wide waist. That isn’t opinion. It’s fact.
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This totally proves my point, thank you. [/quote]

HOW? If you want to talk about these guy’s bodies, fine. That is what they are there for. if you are bitching because of a grapefruit or a lift number, you are bitching about things that have nothing to do with bodybuilding.

What non-black person that I’ve missed is dealing with that on a level like Kai or Max?

Anyone?

The most Jay gets is everyone noticing how limp he is on camera. that’s it.

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drinks coffee and reads thread

Deat’s Spectrum of DLing

Guy who doesn’t lift but trolls messageboards saying he DLs 1035 lb <<< guy who DLs 315 lbs but trolls messageboards saying he DLs 1035 lb <<< Guy who can’t properly convert kilos to lbs and can DL 495 lb << Guy who partial Dls 1035 < Guy who lifts 1035 with straps < guy who lifts 1035 in the gym with hitching < Andy Bolton and KK (who both will probably he inspired by Max Charles to set new equiped and raw records of 1036 and 1037 respectively lolz).

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X - if you don’t think you show bias towards black people in general than you are completely self delusional.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

Here’s one… you say Jay’s waist is wide and looks like crap but Kai’s waist is only big because he eats a lot of food and isn’t a big deal.[/quote]

Kai’s waist didn’t look wide on stage which is what matters. No one cares if his stomach sticks out when over 300;lbs and gaining.

Jay does have a wide waist. That isn’t opinion. It’s fact.
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This totally proves my point, thank you. [/quote]

HOW? If you want to talk about these guy’s bodies, fine. That is what they are there for. if you are bitching because of a grapefruit or a lift number, you are bitching about things that have nothing to do with bodybuilding.

What non-black person that I’ve missed is dealing with that on a level like Kai or Max?

Anyone?

The most Jay gets is everyone noticing how limp he is on camera. that’s it.[/quote]

I’m not talking about Kai fucking a group fruit. I was saying you are quick to point out flaws in many of the top white BBers but defend all the black guys like crazy.

Jay is boring and has a wide waist.

You have a bigger back than Ronny Rockel.

Kai doesn’t have a wide waist.

The list goes on, it’s just an interesting observation. You never have anything good to say about a BBer that isn’t black lol.

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^^^^He generally doesn’t have much good to say about anyone who isn’t black, bodybuilder or not. And, he fights tooth and nail to defend someone who is black, no matter what. It’s nothing new.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

What non-black person that I’ve missed is dealing with that on a level like Kai or Max?

Anyone?

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Maybe the black bodybuilders are just more ‘prone’ to this kind of ‘controversial behavior’.

There’s us white folk on stage, posing, flexing, doing fine, and then some dark folk come along talking about deadlifts and having sex with grapefruit, and oops there goes the neighborhood.

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for those of you following along at home, i can sum up the activity in the bodybuilding forum.

  1. if you are a bodybuilder (and big) you can claim anything as it pertains to lifting because most bodybuilder don’t know all the technical names for all those crazy lifts out there.

  2. X hates white people LOL

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[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
for those of you following along at home, i can sum up the activity in the bodybuilding forum.

  1. if you are a bodybuilder (and big) you can claim anything as it pertains to lifting because most bodybuilder don’t know all the technical names for all those crazy lifts out there.

  2. X hates white people LOL[/quote]

It’s real hard to know what different lifts are, I mean Max Charles is working on his supposed third college degree or at least planning to, yet he doesn’t know typical gym lifts that all the “bros” can easily name.

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Can we get another moderator in the BBing forum that is a white supremacist to balance things out please? Thanks!

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I find it extremely disrespectful for guys like that to claim numbers on lifts. If your a bodybuilder and using a specific movement that gets your chest big that isn’t a full rom bench press. do not claim a 500lb bench press. thats insanely rude to powerlifters or meatheads in general who are putting up that weight on the bench press. some people train their entire life to accomplish these numbers and for some jack off to claim those lifts on video without proof is extremely disrespectful. could you imagine how a ifbb pro would feel if some fat powerlifter claimed he had bigger legs than him? meanwhile hes wearing baggy sweatpants and is 20% body fat.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Can we get another moderator in the BBing forum that is a white supremacist to balance things out please? Thanks![/quote]

QFT.

or one thats not a virgin.

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There’s a point in virtually every thread over a page long where it drifts off topic and yelling matches are started.

It kinda sucks that you have to be very careful about what you say regarding race. I mean black folk are always on the defensive because there is always a negative connotation following them around deservingly or not. An example I use is burglary commercials. The thief has to be a white guy because if the thief was black or hispanic there would be minority equality activists complaining. As a white person you have to be able to take the verbal punishment and laugh it off while a minority can find an excuse to get pissed and call you a racist.

I see why X sticks up for other black folk. The problem arises when white guys stick up for other white guys. Why…because we’re still viewed as privileged.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^^He generally doesn’t have much good to say about anyone who isn’t black, bodybuilder or not. And, he fights tooth and nail to defend someone who is black, no matter what. It’s nothing new.[/quote]

Well, Prof X DID side with that loser WoW dork whose girlfriend deleted his characters (I can’t recall the thread title). Not only was that kid pasty white, but he obviously never lifted a weight in his life, AND he had a stupid haircut!

lol

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Can we get another moderator in the BBing forum that is a white supremacist to balance things out please? Thanks![/quote]

Headhunter???

lolololol

A few thoughts on topic:

  1. When anybody does or claims to do something amazing, it merits discussion, even if it has nothing to do with their profession. Example; I claim I can run a marathon. I am a powerlifter with an elite total. This will merit discussion, because it’s quite out of the ordinary. AMATEUR bodybuilder has a good physique. Amateur bodybuilder claims to have crushed the world record deadlift. This merits discussion, because it’s out of the ordinary.

  2. Deadlift are one of 3 lifts in powerlifting that have been clearly defined in execution. Rack pulls are to deadlifts what leg presses are to front squats. The man said he did MOST of his work with partial ROM, and I quite honestly have a hard time believing X didn’t know what a rack pull was until recently. That sounds akin to me being unaware of what supersets are, since I’m a powerlifter, not a bodybuilder. Possible, yes. Likely, no.

  3. If Tom Brady (Don’t hate, I’m from New England) claims he can chuck a baseball 1000 feet, is it more logical to say “It doesn’t matter, he’s won multiple Superbowls, that’s not even his sport, so he can claim whatever he wants about baseball, besides, maybe he doesn’t know what a foot is, he only needs to know yards for his sport, or maybe he was throwing it off a mountain but forgot to mention that”, or to say “That’s bullshit, nobody can do that”? Get real people.

kthxbae.

In the meantime, I’ll just keep doing deadlifts.

EDIT: oops wrote football where I meant to write baseball…

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^^He generally doesn’t have much good to say about anyone who isn’t black, bodybuilder or not. And, he fights tooth and nail to defend someone who is black, no matter what. It’s nothing new.[/quote]

Well, Prof X DID side with that loser WoW dork whose girlfriend deleted his characters (I can’t recall the thread title). Not only was that kid pasty white, but he obviously never lifted a weight in his life, AND he had a stupid haircut!

lol[/quote]

Pretty sure that kid was Asian or Hispanic…

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Can we get another moderator in the BBing forum that is a white supremacist to balance things out please? Thanks![/quote]

Headhunter???

lolololol

A few thoughts on topic:

  1. When anybody does or claims to do something amazing, it merits discussion, even if it has nothing to do with their profession. Example; I claim I can run a marathon. I am a powerlifter with an elite total. This will merit discussion, because it’s quite out of the ordinary. AMATEUR bodybuilder has a good physique. Amateur bodybuilder claims to have crushed the world record deadlift. This merits discussion, because it’s out of the ordinary.

  2. Deadlift are one of 3 lifts in powerlifting that have been clearly defined in execution. Rack pulls are to deadlifts what leg presses are to front squats. The man said he did MOST of his work with partial ROM, and I quite honestly have a hard time believing X didn’t know what a rack pull was until recently. That sounds akin to me being unaware of what supersets are, since I’m a powerlifter, not a bodybuilder. Possible, yes. Likely, no.

  3. If Tom Brady (Don’t hate, I’m from New England) claims he can chuck a baseball 1000 feet, is it more logical to say “It doesn’t matter, he’s won multiple Superbowls, that’s not even his sport, so he can claim whatever he wants about football, besides, maybe he doesn’t know what a foot is, he only needs to know yards for his sport, or maybe he was throwing it off a mountain but forgot to mention that”, or to say “That’s bullshit, nobody can do that”? Get real people.

kthxbae.

In the meantime, I’ll just keep doing deadlifts. [/quote]

This.

Careful though, if one more poster starts logically and rationally breaking apart X’s arguments and ad-hominem attacks, revealing what they actually are, he will engage DIVA-MODE, we all know what happens then.

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I agree with Hungry. PX has clearly been around the gym for awhile, and has been a member of this site for who knows how long yet didn’t know what a rack pull was until a year ago? Sounds like lies backing up lies. I will say that X constantly compares his hammer strength bench with a traditional bb bench so maybe there’s something to it…

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
X - if you don’t think you show bias towards black people in general than you are completely self delusional.[/quote]

…and every white guy in the thread shows bias to other white guys. Your point? This is bodybuilding. I am going to look at people who have accomplished more than me who share many of my same physical characteristics. I am going to note that Johnnie Jackson’s calves are like mine and that my traps grow easily like his. I am not going to see much that matches my own physicality in someone like jay Cutler. The way he is built is different and anyone with eyes can see this.

This same issue can traverse to all other media. Why is it most black Super heroes before the 1990’s had “black” as part of their name? Does Black Lightening shoot black lightening? No? He was identified that way because white super heroes had become the standard and any deviation from that was seen as “different”…and therefore identified as such.

The average white person in this country has had role models to look up to for centuries. Why would me looking up to people who look like me bother you?

and further, why is it when you do it, it is ok?

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I agree with Hungry. PX has clearly been around the gym for awhile, and has been a member of this site for who knows how long yet didn’t know what a rack pull was until a year ago? Sounds like lies backing up lies. I will say that X constantly compares his hammer strength bench with a traditional bb bench so maybe there’s something to it…[/quote]

LOL. I need to lie about not knowing what a rack pull is I don’t even deadlift so why the fuck would I NEED to know this?

You are a joke, as usual.