[quote]pushharder wrote:
When I was a boy living in north Georgia me and me pals used to go frog giggin’. We’d take a broom handle and attach a sharp trident to one end. Then we’d grab a lantern and go wading around in the Georgia swamps at night evading cottonmouths and copperheads.
We’d find them innocent frogs and spear ‘em good. Sometimes we’d eat ‘em. Sometimes we didn’t. We had a blast. We were huntin’ and killin’ animals for the sheer fun of it.
And you know what? I’d do it all over again if I had the chance.
Again, you may sue me in Montana civil court for being a dirty animal killin’ bastard. Don’t try the case in a Georgia civil court though; you won’t win.[/quote]
homespun homily fail
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Oh for cryin out loud, I come up with an authentic Pushism from yesteryear where I admit I am an evil frog killin son of a bitch and…I fail?
Tell me why it’s OK to kill frogs for fun and not bulls? Surely you’re not going to use the ol’ “but their central nervous system is more complex” argument, are you?[/quote]
Where did I say I was in support of your frog hunt?
Push, I am not in support of animal torture. No matter how you try to cheese it up in americana down home fun, I am not in support of it.
I don’t imagine you pierced your frogs with the barbs for fun, then took them out, then jabbed them back in while you had an audience cheering and getting off on it. Maybe you and your friend would tag team a frog and dart in with barbs and spears to make it bleed more while you danced around having fun? Or maybe you would cut off one leg to watch it limp about, just to make sure you took your trophy? Is that what you did? Yah, not in support of that.
I am not, and will never be in support of the torture of animals. Bull fighting is animal torture.
…I would ask anyone that sees the correlation between abortion and bullfighting to explain it to me. I consider myself a fairly intelligent person and it just doesn’t work for me…
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There is no correlation between abortion and bullfighting per se.
There IS a correlation between one culture finding a tradition in another culture to be abhorrent.
Make you a deal…if I can find a culture somewhere in this world that finds abortion in the US reprehensible and disgusting will you respect the folks in that culture to the extent that you will give up your support for abortion? Or will you flat out not give a fuck?
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Interesting point.
Except abortions are a medical service that can really be helpful for someone who cant handle the responsibility of having a child (whether or not you find that service morally reprehensible).
Bull fighting is just entertainment. They could take up laser tag or knitting or something.
…I would ask anyone that sees the correlation between abortion and bullfighting to explain it to me. I consider myself a fairly intelligent person and it just doesn’t work for me…
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There is no correlation between abortion and bullfighting per se.
There IS a correlation between one culture finding a tradition in another culture to be abhorrent.
Make you a deal…if I can find a culture somewhere in this world that finds abortion in the US reprehensible and disgusting will you respect the folks in that culture to the extent that you will give up your support for abortion? Or will you flat out not give a fuck?
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Fail Push.
Abortion is not a tradition. It isn’t as if on the summer solstice the fetus is aborted to celebrate the fertility gods.
total weak sauce
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I don’t think they fight bulls only on June 21 either. I can check though…and see if I’m wrong.[/quote]
No, but I would be happier if it was only one day a year. Less animal torture that way.
Except abortions are a medical service that can really be helpful for someone who cant handle the responsibility of having a child (whether or not you find that service morally reprehensible).
[/quote]But another culture may not look at it that way.
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Never give an inch push. Just keep pushing…harder I guess.
Except abortions are a medical service that can really be helpful for someone who cant handle the responsibility of having a child (whether or not you find that service morally reprehensible).
[/quote]But another culture may not look at it that way.
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I would doubt that very much Push. I absofuckingloooootely say it would not be seen as a tradition. It is a medical procedure. No one here is saying that it is a tradition as is the case of Bull Fighting. Doesn’t matter how many ways you twist it around, this is a fail.
Except abortions are a medical service that can really be helpful for someone who cant handle the responsibility of having a child (whether or not you find that service morally reprehensible).
[/quote]But another culture may not look at it that way.
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I would doubt that very much Push. I absofuckingloooootely say it would not be seen as a tradition. It is a medical procedure. [/quote]
It’s a traditional medical procedure practiced amply since 1973. 49 million times. How many more times will it need to be administered to gain acceptance as something traditionally done in the United States to deal with unwanted pregnancies?[quote]
No one here is saying that it is a tradition as is the case of Bull Fighting. [/quote]
It’s not the exact same thing. It can be tough to come up with a perfect analogy. The point is not that they are the same; the point is that different cultures can view different social (and medical) practices…differently. That’s all. Don’t over-read what I’m trying to convey here.[quote]
don’t you get to argue this topic enough in PWI?
[/quote]I rarely get into it.
One more time…this is not about bullfighting and abortion being analogous; it’s about different cultures’ perceptions about other cultures.
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This isn’t the discourse on Virtue. A medical procedure is not a tradition. You are trying to imply that an entertainment is equal to a medical procedure and you are trying to wrap it up in semantics.
Doesn’t work. Fail.
This is about bull fighting, it isn’t even about it being traditional. You are the one that supports the animal torture purely because it is traditional.
I don’t support animal torture at all. Bull fighting, tradition, nope. I am not in support of animal torture.