Glad to hear all is well, man. Thanks for the update.
I went GOMAD 2 times in my life. The first time, I was like 20 and i felt no pb, I just got a megaton of zits and fat too. But I did weigh more. The second time was when I was more aged, like 24 / 25, and working (not the same life pace…).
The second time, after some weeks, I felt extremely tired, and unable to digest anything. I started to throw up, and thought it was a gastroenteritis. But after 2 days of throwing up, I started to be so tired I would not be able to wake up and move from my bed. My gf took me to the doctor and I had a blood test.
My liver enzymes skyrocketed, and I had to perform blood test about hepatitis, herpes, mononucleosis, which all came back negative. Then I had an echo etc and all seemed fine.
As I know a bit about biochemistry, I thought it was exercise fatigue and inability for the liver to process the exercise toxins. But I am not a doctor. After 3 weeks I started to feel better and my enzymes went “ok”. I was not exercising this time (and lost a lot of weight), and lived in slow motion.
When I started back training, I did not have any liver pb. But I was not GOMADing.
I am very sure of one thing : GOMAD is a prehistorical way to gain mass. It s “prescribed” by people who are usually very good trainers but very poor at nutrition. Taking so much carbs/fats/prot and lactose a day is very bad thing. Of course “it works”, you are ingesting twice your daily caloric needs. But your body will not thank you for that. Especially your liver, processing all this, especially if you are under medication / heavy supplementation.
[quote]RootX wrote:
As I know a bit about biochemistry,[/quote]
No offense (and yet, here comes an offensive part), but probably not as much as you think.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I agree.
What does the rest of your diet look like, food-wise (and macro-wise)?[/quote]
After reading Thib’s “truth about bulking” article I decided that I actually do not want to compete on a stage but look good nekkid. So excessive bulking is nothing on my list. But eating just above maintenance is fine.
So i adjusted my diet like this:
I consume 180-200g of protein, usually arround 40grams per meal.
so thats 5 meals every 3-4 hours combined with at least 30g of Carbs per meal.
I eat arround 1.000calories of fat (sorry guys not a fan of lean chicken breasts, I prefer a nice steak and pork, whole eggs and fatty fish like carp)
My caloric limit is 3.200 kcals right now and I am making good progress with it (so far).
I currently have no money for whey isolate so i drink 6 whole eggs raw when in need for something I can take with me.
Ocassionally I have a pizza or something like a donut, but keep in mind:
The guy writing this post is a 18 year old kid. So “eat and lift” is propably the best advice I can follow ![]()
by the way:
I can imagine having a little bit different hormon levels than most guys (because of my age)
diet and training wise, is there something I can get more easily away with?
Like not eating “clean” all the time and training more often? (i can afford to sleep 9 hours a day)
[quote]RootX wrote
I am very sure of one thing : GOMAD is a prehistorical way to gain mass. It s “prescribed” by people who are usually very good trainers but very poor at nutrition. Taking so much carbs/fats/prot and lactose a day is very bad thing. Of course “it works”, you are ingesting twice your daily caloric needs. But your body will not thank you for that. Especially your liver, processing all this, especially if you are under medication / heavy supplementation.
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I did GOMAD because I was skinny and lacked appetite.
After 4 weeks and going off I already saw a significant increase in appetite.
Look this is a crash diet for guys who can’t “gain weight”/dont eat enough.
That was the first time in my life I actually managed to eat more than 3.500kcals and after going “off”(my gosh this sounds like a steroid cycle lol) I kept eating the same amount of calories.
It is a habit changer and you should not attempt it unless you are an ectomorph kid.
Also why are you talking about “twice as many calories as usual” when the macronutrient breakdown looks like this:
“2400kcal, 200g carbs, 120g fat, 120g protein”
I eat a lot more protein and carbs but an equal amount of fat. How is that bad? Does it really matter that much where all the nutrients come from?
man, i get all kinds of crazy shit back from blood tests… sometimes high creatinine levels, liver enzymes, and most recently bilirubin levels. the shit you eat and your exercise routines most CERTAINLY effect your blood levels.
but to keep things on the safe side, id suggest sticking with organic.
if gomad is working for you, without much fat gain… keep with it. it surely is an easy way out.
btw… most of the gains i made on gomad, i lost when i cut back the fat… for me it was a worthwhile experience, but id probably never do it agian.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Charm for what, getting fat? Eat a balanced diet instead of following a fad.
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THIS. Its an easy way to get in calories but it is in no way the best or even optimal. Look at the majority of people who have done GOMAD. They get extremely fat and may make strength gains but either way they add unnecessary mass killing their strength:BW ratio
[quote]akmcsnarfy wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Charm for what, getting fat? Eat a balanced diet instead of following a fad.
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THIS. Its an easy way to get in calories but it is in no way the best or even optimal. Look at the majority of people who have done GOMAD. They get extremely fat and may make strength gains but either way they add unnecessary mass killing their strength:BW ratio[/quote]
That may be true for many people but my experience hasn’t been like that.
Secondly, just because you’re drinking plenty of milk a day doesn’t mean you don’t still need to pay attention to your body. Some people (like me) can handle nearly a full gallon of milk per day, some people can’t. You need to scale up and down based on your own needs.
As far as it being a fad, milk-based diets have been in and out of the research for over a hundred years. There’s a number of doctors, as in licensed MDs, that have used milk diets successfully in the past to treat all sorts of things. In the lifting world, GOMAD and variants (without such a catchy name) have been used for a very long time too.
GOMAD isn’t the solution for everyone, but it’s an effective solution for some.
Worked well for this ectomorph too. i was 6’3" 170lbs and gained about 25lbs in just under a month.