[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]TD54 wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’m not trying to “hate” on you or anything, I just don’t want this site turning into a big circle jerk like bb.com [/quote]
Is that what they’re doing over there?
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That’s what I’ve gathered from the few times I’ve been over there. Everyone resembling BPIFC is “swole” and “lookin good”.[/quote]
haha
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]TD54 wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’m not trying to “hate” on you or anything, I just don’t want this site turning into a big circle jerk like bb.com [/quote]
Is that what they’re doing over there?
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That’s what I’ve gathered from the few times I’ve been over there. Everyone resembling BPIFC is “swole” and “lookin good”.[/quote]
Just went over to bb.com and it was SHOCKING. People getting tons of compliments after cutting from 150 to 140. The attitude around here is soooooo different.
A description for my legs would be 27 in thigh… my quads are my strong point but my hamstrings are starting to look like my strength which is what I want 
Calves are my weakest part of my body at a lil over 16in. Like I said Ill give you leg pics once I reach 200. I believe my shoulders r my strength due to genetics and yes my pecs need work.
Oh and click on my pics if you want to see a bigger image
Good for you on posting pics. Most people start threads and then never come back…lol…
Now - you need mass overall, but especially need some lats and your chest needs a lot of work. On the plus side shoulders and arms are coming along - can’t really see much of your legs.
Just keep on keeping on, and don’t let it slide this time.
Yea I need to bring up my chest definately along with my back but my back is coming along…Right now im more focused on just adding mass. Once i get up to a good size then Ill try to put the finishing touches on before I compete.
The only thing Im worried about is whether the anabolic diet will allow me to put the weight on I want.
I was looking for a way to add mass without all the fat and the anabolic diet looked promisisng. I may need to bump it up to 5000 cal to get the same weight gain but idk. Well Ill post another thread probly once I get to 200 10%bf. This one is kinda old and probly confusing to people who are new here lol.
Well, certainly people have bulked successfully using the anabolic approach, but personally I’m a big fan of high carbs and their protein sparing effect.
I hear both high carb and low carb are protein sparing once u make the “switch.” Ill give it two months. I mean what’s the worst that can happen? If i eat enough to gain weight and provide the necessary stimulus to grow muscle my body has no choice but to put on muscle regardless of whether im doing high carb or low carb. Ill just compare my results with the high carb results and see which one works the best as far as my partitioning ratio and overall mass gain is concerned.
You definitely don’t need 5000 calories. Good job being so ambitious, but just keep an eye on things. You are pretty square right now so don’t let things get out of control. Play it smart and keep up the hard work!
^Thanks man you’re looking great! are you thinking about doing any competitions?
As far as calories go idk what ill need. I made out a 3000, 3500, 4000, and 4500 calorie meal plan. If i gain at a rate of a pound a week ill keep at it but im not sure how ill respond to this diet.
I hope i don’t need 5000 calories a day bc beef gets expensive after a while lol.
[quote]bking wrote:
^Thanks man you’re looking great! are you thinking about doing any competitions?
As far as calories go idk what ill need. I made out a 3000, 3500, 4000, and 4500 calorie meal plan. If i gain at a rate of a pound a week ill keep at it but im not sure how ill respond to this diet.
I hope i don’t need 5000 calories a day bc beef gets expensive after a while lol.[/quote]
Thanks. Yah, I have one planned for next year.
Well keep in mind, 5500 calories has me gaining weight pretty fast so would you gain a lot of weight on that many cals? Yes, but it would be overkill and you would put on lots of fat. A pound a week is still fast as hell so don’t get too worried about that aspect of it. I think 3500-4 will be plenty to keep you gaining, but keep us updated on how it goes.
This may not make a whole lot of sense right now but after a certain point, the more fat you put on the more difficult it will be to add muscle tissue without a lot of fat gain. Once your insulin sensitivity goes to shit, it almost always gets worse the higher the bf %, you start to get in a tough spot.
Don’t be so dogmatic/dramatic about things. It’s great to have goals but just jumping up to 5000 calories or whatever isn’t smart. Waylander is right about insulin sensitivity getting worse the “fatter” you are and I’m not sure I would say you’re actually 15%. I don’t really know, the front shot looks maybe 16-17% but at 190 and 5’10 I would expect someone with 15% to have much more of a V-taper. Either way I’d say you have the right mindset but just being consistent is obviously important.
Also, a lot of people have gained well with the AD but for me it didn’t help me stay any leaner, and even though I’m “endomorphic” I seemed to get better with carbs. Skynett is also right in that carbs are protein sparing, but I think it’s funny when people say that about a certain diet. Pretty much all macronutrients are protein sparing. Protein, carbs, fat, ketones…
Ill see how it goes. Do you think I should do a lil body recomp before I shoot for 200lbs? When I was high carb I would gain at a 3:2 protein to fat ratio on 4000 to 4500 calories. Im thinking i will start with 4000 calories like I did last time and see how that goes. Im not going to jump straight to 5000 until I at least know how I respond to 4000.
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Skynett is also right in that carbs are protein sparing, but I think it’s funny when people say that about a certain diet. Pretty much all macronutrients are protein sparing. Protein, carbs, fat, ketones…[/quote]
What’s funny about it? In protein sparing more of your protein is used for muscle building instead of being used for energy requirements. Since you have sufficient carbohydrates that are easily broken down into monomers, most of your protein intake goes to muscle building (and supporting other metabolic processes) - so, if you’re saying that protein spares protein - um I guess, though I would think that’s rather inefficient.
You don’t really want gluconeogenesis - If you are not consuming enough carbohydrates, your body looks for other sources of energy, like muscle proteins. Proteins, however, are not the most efficient sources of energy for the body, because they have to be converted to sugar by a more involved metabolic pathway.
Also, you can really tell the difference between 15 and 16 % bodyfat just by looking at the guy’s picture?
I think I will focus more on body recomp rather than bulking for a lil while. Im not saying im going to go on a cut tho i probably stil will gain a lil weight in the process since muscle growth is still my main focus. Ill update you guys when i get to a lean 200 and decide whether i want to compete yet or not. Talk to you then.
[quote]bking wrote:
Ill update you guys when i get to a lean 200 and decide whether i want to compete yet or not. Talk to you then.[/quote]
Best of luck. Kill it!
Thanks man! Full steam of head for me until i reach that goal.
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
…I’m not sure I would say you’re actually 15%. I don’t really know, the front shot looks maybe 16%…[/quote]
I still wonder if you are a troll or just really, really stupid.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Also, you can really tell the difference between 15 and 16 % bodyfat just by looking at the guy’s picture?
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Oops, beat me to it.
As far as the bodyfat percentage thing goes it doesn’t really matter what i say it is since you can just look at my picture. I just use this cheap plastic calipers as a way to get an idea of what my progress looks like as far as numbers r concerned. When it comes down to it, the mirror/pictures is what matters.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Skynett is also right in that carbs are protein sparing, but I think it’s funny when people say that about a certain diet. Pretty much all macronutrients are protein sparing. Protein, carbs, fat, ketones…[/quote]
What’s funny about it? In protein sparing more of your protein is used for muscle building instead of being used for energy requirements. Since you have sufficient carbohydrates that are easily broken down into monomers, most of your protein intake goes to muscle building (and supporting other metabolic processes) - so, if you’re saying that protein spares protein - um I guess, though I would think that’s rather inefficient.
You don’t really want gluconeogenesis - If you are not consuming enough carbohydrates, your body looks for other sources of energy, like muscle proteins. Proteins, however, are not the most efficient sources of energy for the body, because they have to be converted to sugar by a more involved metabolic pathway.
Also, you can really tell the difference between 15 and 16 % bodyfat just by looking at the guy’s picture?
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and not funny like “haha”, maybe ironic is a better word. I’m not saying you’re wrong obviously, I’m just saying that saying higher carbs are protein sparing as a reason to keep higher carbs in the diet doesn’t make a ton of sense since higher fat (like the AD has) is also protein sparing. Not that I don’t agree he should have more carbs. He’ll see what works after awhile hopefully.
And 16% was being generous. Doesn’t really matter though.
