Thanks kmc, yeah, trying to work on the 56# for height. More explosive stuff and faster on everything. Getting some weird looks at the gym on some of the stuff.
Tonight
Between the legs DB swing to overhead
4x60
4x65
3x70
3x75
2x80
Neider Press (BB)
95x6
115x6
135x4x2
Neider single arm bar Press
90x6x4 ea arm
Cheat DB hammer curls to side of head
55x8
65x8
75x8
85x6
facepulls (bar)
90,100,110,120x10
Hel, your workout endurance is phenomenal. You brewing some crystal meth over there in Alabama? Us old guys are supposed to get tired more quickly.
I do appreciate the feedback about olders lifters losing explosive power more than pure strength…this fits my personal experience well and helps me feel a little less insane. But of course, I should have figured this out anyways, because that’s why the Master’s OL records are far less impressive than Master’s PL records. At least that’s part of the reason, I’m sure the other reason is PL is far more popular now and, contrary to some people’s opinion, probably a lot easier on the joints.
I’m sure you remember the “experts” in the seventies warning us how “deadly” squats and deadlifts were to the body. In fact, I never really tried max lifts in these my entire senior year for fear of “breaking something.” Funny how powerlifting now is a “core” builder and therefore “good” for you. Doc
I’d never heard of the Neider press before. Is the purpose to work your shoulders?
80# db swings sounds like some serious swinging.
Mathineer, Neider press is basically a bench press, standing up, AOL Video - Serving the best video content from AOL and around the web - AOL.com .So you’ve got to really push the bar out fast and bring it back just as fast. The Neider single arm bar Press is best shown here at the very start of the vid Dummbell Snatch Swing Upright Neider Press Grip Training - YouTube .Both were used and invented by Bill Neider, 1960 Olympic Shot Put champion. Trick on the single arm DB snatch is to make it one smooth move. The 56# weight over bar has a chain on it, that’s what I’m carrying in my avatar. If you pause at all during the pull, the links lose tension and the damn thing goes nowhere, except on top of your head maybe.
Doc, soon as I walk in a gym my energy levels go up. I don’t think I’d make a good home lifter like I lot of you. I just love the atmosphere and the enviroment of a gym. Speaking of expert advice. My High School lifting was limited to a Universal and a leg Press machine. Didn’t start really hittin the weights til I went in the service. Another airman, Gene Bell (yeah, that Gene Bell) worked at the base gym. Really urged me to get into powerlifting, “Shit Harry, all them jumps gonna fuck up your legs quick enough. You don’t need to be squattin.” And, “You guys swim too much to put on the right kinda muscle.” With encouragement like that from a world champion I was off and running.
Need to be practicing my throws technique but it will not stop raining. So hit the gym after work tonight.
deads
135,225wu
315x5
365x5
405x3
455x2
475x2
squats
135,185wu
225x6
315x6x5
365x4
385x2
zerchers
135,185wu
225x6x4
goblets
140x8x3
seated row
100,110,120,130x10
Thats some really impressive lifting, hel. Anybody who can squat like that after deadlifting is just flat out strong.
I like the new additions to the workout Hel. The DB swings and goblet squats sound fun. Your zerchers are looking strong.
Off today and it actually didn’t rain. 0500 hit the river for a swim. Waters moving real fast cause of all the rain runoff. Swim out was fast as hell and the swim back in was literally a crawl. Felt great. Finally got the grass cut, had to set the deck on the mower at it’s highest for the first past. Took one of the dogs to the vet for annual check up/shots. Stopped over to brother’s place for the lunch special. Hopefully I’ll finally get some throwing in this evening. Mom, wife, and sisters’ in law, nieces, etc. have been on a canning binge and putting up all kinds of stuff for winter. Guess I won’t starve.
We have been canning too every weekend green tomato chutney
and some other stuff…
strong squats and deads nice work.
i did a double take I thought you said Gene Lebell- a huge man in Judo but Gene Bell is a legend in PL
I posted some thower videos - insane training in Carl Darby’s thread. Need to dig them up for you.
Hel here are those vid’s did I post these here before?
I saw this at a seminar years ago- crazy facility he trains in…
and its 80’s chessiness is perfect
“Judo” Gene Lebell? Remember him well, although mainly form his rasslin’ career. Thanks for the links. Actually met Werner in Kaiserslautern, Germany right after he placed 3rd in the 88 Olympics. Huge man and incredibly in shape for his size. His coach and he were really doing some innovative stuff for the shot put. Have some films of him throwing but they’re in VHS and PAL (european) format. Have to get them out and see if I can convert them.
Friday night
BB bench
135,225wu
315x6x5
Incline DB Bench
60x8
70x8
80x8
Flyes (straight arms, thumbs up)
25x8
30x8
35x8
CGBP
135wu
185x8
225x8x3
tates
35,40,45x8
Overhead Tri ext (rope)
80,90,110,120x8
Tonight
Met wife at the gym afterwork. I must of looked looked like the proverbial wet dog. Soaked to the bone. Poured all day. Dried off, changed into gym clothes in the sauna. Fingers and toes were completely wrinkled.
Mil Press, from rack, shoulder height
135wu
155x8
175x7
195x6
215x3
235x1
db swing to snatch
60x2(ea side)x4 sets
Bent raises
30x10x3
cable lat raises
40x10x3
Started to do some curls and it just weren’t there. Wussed out. Home to hot bath. Wife’s cookin up some steaks right now. Sleep early and back to the gym early tomorrow.
Nice pressin’ hel…bench and military.
You guys still getting rain? My Dad’s over in GA and they are getting pretty soaked as well.
That’s some workout, Hel! Wow! 235 is a lot to be pressing from the shoulders.
Nice pressing here. Can I borrow 1 rep from the 195 X 6 on the MP? That’s my goal for the year and I am no where near it.
The clouds left Sunday and left us with a beautiful day, clear and a high of 75. Same thing today. Hit the gym Sunday morning bright and early.
deads
135,225wu
315x2
365x2
415x2
465x2
485x1
squats
135,185wu
225x6
315x6x5
365x4
385x2
zerchers
135,185wu
225x6x4
goblets
140x8x3
seated row
100,110,120,130x10
Inspired by the Werner Gunther vids Kevin gave me on You tube I threw in the BB on shoulders, one foot on bench behind you, squat with one leg switch. Did 3 sets 135 x 8 ea leg. Felt easy. Quads are already starting to hurt.
After work today
stone x 10
28# x 10
56# WFD x 10
sheath x 10
Probably try for one more heavy night tomorrow and a good throw day Wednesday. Meet is on Saturday so make the super secret spagetti for supper Friday.
Hel that is some good weekend lifting.
glad you liked the vids- the bb split squat thing is good Ive been doing them too.
Hey hel, as an aside to my reply to you over in Old Lardass, the Judo camp I went to was run by Paul Maruyama. He was on the first USA Olympic Judo Team in 1964. He was also a serving Major (back in 1982) in your USAF, and an instructor at the AF Academy. Nice guy, about 150 lbs, 3 ft tall, and strong as an ox. I got to play with him a couple times, and he used (abused) me like a soapy mop.
Last night got in a med to heavy leg night. Some light throws tonight and that’ll be it til Saturday. Weather has been beautiful here the last few days.
5 PRs! That is a huge accomplishment. Did you change your training or technique since the last games?
