ur help is also very much appreciated
[quote]officergroelly wrote:
i have been doing military press on wednesdays, and chinups and pull ups 2-3 times a week, not plateauing on them either,[/quote]
If you are NOT plateauing on military press, I would just wait it out. You cant have your bench NOT go up if your military goes up enough… and while you are waiting, I would add some specific tricep work… If you are doing “madcow” you are pressing 3 times a week, maybe on your third workout try 5 or 6 sets of rolling dumbell presses or something… or maybe a few backoff bench sets with a close grip.
But, basically, other than doing something other than bench and military for the triceps, as long as your military press is going up, dont worry too much. The bench will eventually follow.
ok thank you glenn, hey glenn i have about 3 ?s if you dont mind
1.) regarding olympic routines with the variations that go by percentages how do you find out the weight to use for them? like the power clean/snatch , snatch balance, snatch from blocks, push press, snatch from knee, power jerk etc, do you have your lifters max out on these lifts or go by what their maxes or percentages are based on the snatch and c&j??? (because i believe snatch/clean pulls are take from 10%+ from the comp. lift maxes and romanian deadlifts/pulls are take from clean&jerk max) how do you go about setting the work weight with these variations?
2.) have u ever tested the vertical of any of your olympic lifters or sprint times just for fun? how high or fast do they run/jump out of curiosity say jon for example?
3.) what other types of programming that you created do you use besides 5x5, texas method, and the hormonal flucuation model?
[quote]officergroelly wrote:
ok thank you glenn, hey glenn i have about 3 ?s if you dont mind
1.) regarding olympic routines with the variations that go by percentages how do you find out the weight to use for them? like the power clean/snatch , snatch balance, snatch from blocks, push press, snatch from knee, power jerk etc, do you have your lifters max out on these lifts or go by what their maxes or percentages are based on the snatch and c&j??? (because i believe snatch/clean pulls are take from 10%+ from the comp. lift maxes and romanian deadlifts/pulls are take from clean&jerk max) how do you go about setting the work weight with these variations?
2.) have u ever tested the vertical of any of your olympic lifters or sprint times just for fun? how high or fast do they run/jump out of curiosity say jon for example?
3.) what other types of programming that you created do you use besides 5x5, texas method, and the hormonal flucuation model?[/quote]
We dont use percentages, so I really cant answer #1. As far as #2, yeah, I have, have had quite a few verticles in the 35 to 39 range, which isnt that great on the internet, but in real life its some serious hops. The program that I use daily for my olympic lifters and other athletes is not any one thing listed on question #3, but is its own method, and I suppose pulls a little from each. We do 2-3 very hard weeks then take a lower volume week. There is way more to it than that of course, but within this framework we sometimes use things like the Texas method, etc, much of the time we dont. The 5 by 5 and Texas method were and are both programs mainly used to build muscle and strength and are meant to be the focus of the program. Now, whether I am working with someone getting ready for the NFL combine, or someone getting ready for nationals in weightlifting, or a track athlete getting ready for an important meet, the squat often cannot and should not be the focus of the program, there are so many other things to worry about. So, in many of the situations I am in now, those programs really arent appropriate, at least for much of the year.
Hi Glenn, having dabbled in the weightlifting movements in the past I’ve recently started training for it properly. I’ve been following your beginner program which has been serving me well so far with one exception, my cleans have gone down a little. Cleans were the one lift I was reasonably proficient on already, I’d done a 115 power clean and a fairly easy 120 full clean.
Most of my progress on the clean had come from just training heavy deadlifts and rack pulls as I didn’t actually practice the lift very much. Having cut those lifts out though I feel like I’ve lost some power and strength in my posterior chain.
My technique has improved a little, I’m getting quite good at getting under the bar, but it tends to feel much heavier and I can’t get the same speed in the pull. The best I’ve managed in the last 2 months since starting the program is a hard 115 full clean and a 105 power clean.
Do you think that for some lifters it is worth adding in some heavier posterior chain work? Or am I best just been patient and relying on the cleans themselves to eventually bring the area up to speed, and maybe adding in some extra work on hypers/GHRs?
Glenn, perhaps a bit tangential here but I’ve read your article(s) where you wrote about several elite weightlifters that pinned down when cleaning in a comp. although their front squat number is higher. How could that happen in your opinion? It just boggles my mind. The same thing has happened to me before in training but I think it’s due to exhaustion.
glenn and 35-39 inch vertical is insane, probablly as amazing as they come especially with 39, i never heard of anything greater than 40. especially given the height of these athletes and aside from the fact that they dont train for it. ive seen a 35+ inch vertical, its high man, real high.
hey glenn thanks for answering my ?s i assume regarding the sets and reps for the variations of the olympic lifts you guys go by feel. by the way ur videos are helping me alot, ive been using all of them for stretching, progression, and tips. i also seen the lifting videos and shankle’s vid. hopefully moer videos will be posted up soon. cant wait for an article if possilbe one of these days
hey Glenn, saw your recent vids on youtube, freaking awesome stuff, I wish I could train with you guys. I have a suggestion, it’s all up to you of course, but I would love to see some videos from some high quality video camcorders on stands, like Greg Everett does on his website cathletics.com. Just a suggestion, but that would be sweet to watch! And you don’t have to hold the camera all day, too. 
look good Glenn? still working on the hips down, instead of thinking about hips down I’m more thinking of chest up, I think that’s a good cue for me.
[quote]Calis wrote:
Hi Glenn, having dabbled in the weightlifting movements in the past I’ve recently started training for it properly. I’ve been following your beginner program which has been serving me well so far with one exception, my cleans have gone down a little. Cleans were the one lift I was reasonably proficient on already, I’d done a 115 power clean and a fairly easy 120 full clean.
Most of my progress on the clean had come from just training heavy deadlifts and rack pulls as I didn’t actually practice the lift very much. Having cut those lifts out though I feel like I’ve lost some power and strength in my posterior chain.
My technique has improved a little, I’m getting quite good at getting under the bar, but it tends to feel much heavier and I can’t get the same speed in the pull. The best I’ve managed in the last 2 months since starting the program is a hard 115 full clean and a 105 power clean.
Do you think that for some lifters it is worth adding in some heavier posterior chain work? Or am I best just been patient and relying on the cleans themselves to eventually bring the area up to speed, and maybe adding in some extra work on hypers/GHRs?[/quote]
How long have you been doing the program? If its like 2-4 weeks, i’d make no changes. You are probably, no offense, not good enough yet at cleans and snatches to get a training effect that adequately replaces your previous deadlifting. But the best way to get good enough would be to stick with the program.
If you have been doing it 2 months or more, then a modification could definately be in order… If that is the case, tell me, and I will try to help you modify the program adequately.
[quote]Paperclip wrote:
Glenn, perhaps a bit tangential here but I’ve read your article(s) where you wrote about several elite weightlifters that pinned down when cleaning in a comp. although their front squat number is higher. How could that happen in your opinion? It just boggles my mind. The same thing has happened to me before in training but I think it’s due to exhaustion.[/quote]
It’s all position and rythm… if your GOOD at the clean, you put yourself in the same position at the bottom as your front squat, and reverse directions with the same tempo and rythm… if you dont do that, its possible to get pinned with way less than you front squat.
[quote]officergroelly wrote:
glenn and 35-39 inch vertical is insane, probablly as amazing as they come especially with 39, i never heard of anything greater than 40. especially given the height of these athletes and aside from the fact that they dont train for it. ive seen a 35+ inch vertical, its high man, real high.
hey glenn thanks for answering my ?s i assume regarding the sets and reps for the variations of the olympic lifts you guys go by feel. by the way ur videos are helping me alot, ive been using all of them for stretching, progression, and tips. i also seen the lifting videos and shankle’s vid. hopefully moer videos will be posted up soon. cant wait for an article if possilbe one of these days[/quote]
Wes Barnett, a 230lb Olympic lifter that clean and jerked 484lbs did a 41 inch vertical at the Olympic training center a number of years ago. When he did it, it was the highest vertical ever recorded at the Olympic training center, as far as I know it still might be.
Kyle gulledge, when he was training with me, and right in front of me, Jumped onto a 62 inch box while weighing 280lbs roughly.
Rhinehard Weiss, a lifter who stood 5’8" tall and lifted in the 187lb class, could, standing flat footed and with NO step, dunk an 8lb medicine ball.
I think that some of the best mens volleyball players probably have the worlds best verticals, but, some Olympic lifters arent slouches at all!
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
hey Glenn, saw your recent vids on youtube, freaking awesome stuff, I wish I could train with you guys. I have a suggestion, it’s all up to you of course, but I would love to see some videos from some high quality video camcorders on stands, like Greg Everett does on his website cathletics.com. Just a suggestion, but that would be sweet to watch! And you don’t have to hold the camera all day, too. :)[/quote]
Andy, I am quite new at this, I would definately like to go to a higher quality setup than me walking around with a $100 dollar camera. But cost is an issue, always. I want to start getting more video of the NFL guys training… only 22 days left till the combines… some of those guys do some pretty impressive things. Had a 180lb wide reciever bench 440lbs the other day… stuff like that. would have made a good video.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
look good Glenn? still working on the hips down, instead of thinking about hips down I’m more thinking of chest up, I think that’s a good cue for me.
I’m pretty happy with that.
Glen,
I squat 550 and want to squat over 600. I usually train the squat once a week and pull on the second day. I want to replace the pull day with another squat session because I seem to do better (lowerback recovery wise) when I squat more and pull less. What would be your advice if my sole focus was improving the squat?
Thank you,
Mike
Hey Glenn,
I’m new to oly lifting. Started about 3 months ago (working with a coach). I go twice a week. Before this I was doing bodybuilding type lifting, although almost always low reps (3-5). I was hoping you could help me set up a split for mixing BB type work with Oly lifting. I want to start focusing more on Oly lifting but still get in some BB work. I’ll prob start doing the Oly lifting 3 days a week then up it to 4. I would like to bring up my legs/calves, rear and side delts and chest the most and also keep my bench press numbers up. Also I was thinking maybe switching to higher reps for the BB type work would sort of shock my system into more growth since my body isn’t used to it. What do you think?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Hello Glenn:
I am nine months post-surgery from a badly torn rotator cuff. I conversed with you via PM some months back and at that time you shared with me that a woman you trained had a similar injury. I’m wondering how she is doing and if she has regained her OHPing strength. I can clean a light bar and did ATG front squats with a clean grip for the first time since my surgery the other day at 75% bodyweight for five reps with no problem. But my OHPing strength is nonexistent. Wondered how this woman you mentioned to me has progressed.
Thanks.
[quote]Glenn Pendlay wrote:
[quote]officergroelly wrote:
glenn and 35-39 inch vertical is insane, probablly as amazing as they come especially with 39, i never heard of anything greater than 40. especially given the height of these athletes and aside from the fact that they dont train for it. ive seen a 35+ inch vertical, its high man, real high.
hey glenn thanks for answering my ?s i assume regarding the sets and reps for the variations of the olympic lifts you guys go by feel. by the way ur videos are helping me alot, ive been using all of them for stretching, progression, and tips. i also seen the lifting videos and shankle’s vid. hopefully moer videos will be posted up soon. cant wait for an article if possilbe one of these days[/quote]
OMG, yea man i gotta get on that olympic lifting program lol, i just been doing power cleans and power snatches until i can get these flexibility issues correct with the proper depth on squats and that upper body stretch, glenn thanks alot on it its working good and i am seeing progress on the stretches but its deff gonna take some time for me to be able to full catch a clean, i only power clean and snatch about 215 and 135 at 158lbs right now. P.S. just plateaud on the press i thinnk at 155, reseting the 5x5 with more triceps work on fridays and feeling good again. thanks a lot glenn, glad the steelers lost =D
Wes Barnett, a 230lb Olympic lifter that clean and jerked 484lbs did a 41 inch vertical at the Olympic training center a number of years ago. When he did it, it was the highest vertical ever recorded at the Olympic training center, as far as I know it still might be.
Kyle gulledge, when he was training with me, and right in front of me, Jumped onto a 62 inch box while weighing 280lbs roughly.
Rhinehard Weiss, a lifter who stood 5’8" tall and lifted in the 187lb class, could, standing flat footed and with NO step, dunk an 8lb medicine ball.
I think that some of the best mens volleyball players probably have the worlds best verticals, but, some Olympic lifters arent slouches at all!
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Hello Glenn, I maxed out today in just about everything, ended up with a 5kgs PR on the snatch, same old PR on the c&j and 10kgs PR on back squats. Unfortunately I don’t have videos of the c&j but I have the snatches. I would appreciate any input.(its 80, 85, 90 miss, 90kgs)
I’m thinking that for the next few weeks I’ll be focusing on getting a straight first pull and a 2nd pull which “hits” the bar high on the thigh and is explosive. In the video the 1st pull was scraping my shins(even got it swollen at a certain spot this time) and the 2nd pull, while I think it does hit pretty high, is not all that explosive. How do they look to you? (Could also use more tightness in the receiving position but whatever, will work on that later
Thanks for your time. I love the videos you post lately on youtube by the way. Really like the one where jon’s last two lifts is just him screaming
[quote]Glenn Pendlay wrote:
[quote]Calis wrote:
Hi Glenn, having dabbled in the weightlifting movements in the past I’ve recently started training for it properly. I’ve been following your beginner program which has been serving me well so far with one exception, my cleans have gone down a little. Cleans were the one lift I was reasonably proficient on already, I’d done a 115 power clean and a fairly easy 120 full clean.
Most of my progress on the clean had come from just training heavy deadlifts and rack pulls as I didn’t actually practice the lift very much. Having cut those lifts out though I feel like I’ve lost some power and strength in my posterior chain.
My technique has improved a little, I’m getting quite good at getting under the bar, but it tends to feel much heavier and I can’t get the same speed in the pull. The best I’ve managed in the last 2 months since starting the program is a hard 115 full clean and a 105 power clean.
Do you think that for some lifters it is worth adding in some heavier posterior chain work? Or am I best just been patient and relying on the cleans themselves to eventually bring the area up to speed, and maybe adding in some extra work on hypers/GHRs?[/quote]
How long have you been doing the program? If its like 2-4 weeks, i’d make no changes. You are probably, no offense, not good enough yet at cleans and snatches to get a training effect that adequately replaces your previous deadlifting. But the best way to get good enough would be to stick with the program.
If you have been doing it 2 months or more, then a modification could definately be in order… If that is the case, tell me, and I will try to help you modify the program adequately.[/quote]
Thanks Glenn. It’s been about 6 weeks now. The last couple of workouts cleans have started to feel a bit better though. I’ve been hitting 115 a lot easier, but the pull still feels very heavy compared to what I’m used to. I think things will probably start improving from here but please let me know if there are any changes you’d recommend.