Giving Up on Women

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

And even if you don’t pray to Yahweh or Allah, but still believe in a divine Creator and Designer, the fact that polygyny and polyandry (serial monogamy being just a variation on the theme) seems to be the rule rather than the exception in not only humans but in practically every other species on the planet that reproduces sexually (yes, including birds), it would seem that polygamy was written into the program at the very highest levels. [/quote]

It might seem pedantic but I think it makes sense to see it as something written at a very low level.

That would make it very common even when species branched out and largely inaccesible through conscious thought. [/quote]

I agree with what you’re saying, but in keeping with the “Designer” idiom, I meant to imply that assuming a Designer, then the imperative to be polygamous must have been written into the genetic program by a “high-level” programmer. Albeit, admittedly, in a very low (i.e. deep) level of the operating system.

Push: “I just think that these biological tendencies or traits were instilled by a Designer and not by chance.”

Varq: “I agree. Chance has nothing to do with it.”

Push: “Chance has everything to do with it. This is indisputable.”

Ha! You just can’t bear the thought of us agreeing on something, can you?

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

Sorry, the mods have told us SAMA is still archived somewhere. You just need to know where to look.[/quote]

I know where to look!

There was an Asian Vixens thread??? [/quote]

No there wasn’t. Definitely not.

Strictly a rumor, for which there is no evidence.[/quote]

The WayBack Machine will prove you lie.

But I’m currently distracted by the Red Head Love thread… so it might be a while until I find it.[/quote]

I’m still looking for that Asian thread…

But now I’m distracted by the Ass Worship thread…

[quote]2busy wrote:

I’m still looking for that Asian thread…

But now I’m distracted by the Ass Worship thread…
[/quote]

Oh, jeez. All hope abandon, ye who enter the Ass Worship Thread.

Just Vegeta’s fishnet stocking pics alone will take about six weeks to get through.

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

Sorry, the mods have told us SAMA is still archived somewhere. You just need to know where to look.[/quote]

I know where to look!

There was an Asian Vixens thread??? [/quote]

No there wasn’t. Definitely not.

Strictly a rumor, for which there is no evidence.[/quote]

The WayBack Machine will prove you lie.

But I’m currently distracted by the Red Head Love thread… so it might be a while until I find it.[/quote]

I’m still looking for that Asian thread…

But now I’m distracted by the Ass Worship thread…
[/quote]

Ahhh the Ass Worship thread…

I remember being dejected by the fact that I couldn’t keep up with that thread. I wanted to so bad but I had these pesky other obligations I had to tend to. Like work and family life. Every time I checked in I was further and further behind. Maybe when the kids are out and I’m retired I’ll go back to the archives and finally catch up.

I miss SAMA…

Regarding evolutionary psychology vs. intelligent design, we can all quote Ridley and Miller or <> until we are blue in the face and those with strong religious convictions will quote whatever scripture backs up their assertions. I doubt either party will change the mind of the other one, which is why I tend to shy away from these discussions. I don’t know, and it really doesn’t matter to me all that much.

But I will say that when I began to APPLY what I learned about women, sex, display behavior, courtship, mating ritual, etc… from reading about evolutionary biology/psychology to the social dynamics of attraction, flirting and sexual escalation, I began to get very consistent results - it became downright predictable. Regardless of whether or not these “instincts” were designed or naturally evolved (which one could argue is by design…), they are certainly there and pulling the strings of our collective subconscious. It’s as real as pulling the hair on the nape of a woman’s neck during an intimate moment and watching her pupils dilate, her pulse quicken, her face flush and sploosh…

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
In other words, a man who marries and divorces three wives before marrying a fourth is no more monogamous than a man who marries four at the same time. [/quote]

Have someone particular in mind??? ;-)[/quote]

Mmmmmmmmmaybe.

[quote]ProphetofDoom wrote:
could i get a response to my second post on this thread.[/quote]

You want a response, kid?

Okay. Here is a response.

Welcome to Testosterone Nation, a website celebrating the hormone that makes life worth living. The magic molecule that separates the Men from the little boys, the Vixens from the little girls, and the Caballeros from the peons.

You, sir, have stumbled onto a golden opportunity to rub elbows with some of the mightiest mortals on the Internet. And how have you chosen to make your entrance? Please take a moment to read your first and second posts on this site. They drip… nay ooze with negativity, self-doubt and defeatism.

“its practically impossible to get a date outside of your social circle”

“No one ever gave a shit about me”

“I was only worth talking to when no one with higher social value was around”

“i’ve hardly ever bothered asking any girls out”

“i was always afraid of being cheated on for not being popular enough.”

“suffering from depression”

“pretty much friendless”

“I don’t have really much else to live for”

“limited life experiences”

“Hopefully going back to college … might make a difference … but i doubt it”

Boo hoo hoo.

Listen, Prophet of Doom, first of all, I gotta tell you, your choice of username is pathetically appropriate. You have written a self-fulfilling life prophecy if you really believe all the negative crap you have written about yourself. Elsewhere on this thread someone mentioned that the number one thing a woman… or a man, for that matter … is attracted to is confidence.

You strike me as someone who has not developed this vital attribute. No wonder you’ve never gotten a date. If you were a young woman, and someone like you asked you out, would you want to go out with you?

Sorry if I sound harsh, but for Christ’s sake, you are twenty-six years old. You are presumably healthy, reasonably wealthy (at least not desperately poor) and not hideous. You are at a college surrounded by 19 and 20 year old women in the Pacific Northwest of North America, breeding ground of some of the best women on the planet. What I would not give to be in your shoes right now.

You have a choice, Prophet of Doom. You can continue down the dark, lonely path you have been hacking for yourself in the wilderness, or you can choose a different one. It may not seem to you now like you have a choice, limited life experiences, no friends, no social network, and all that, but you DO. Make new friends. Acquire new skills. Create experiences.

Talk to women. Talk to them until they don’t scare you anymore. Ask some girls out. Who cares if they say no? Get used to being rejected. It will happen. Make it happen so often that it no longer bothers you. Understand from the outset that if you approach 100 women, maybe fifty will ignore you. Of the fifty that talk to you, twenty will go out with you. Of those twenty, five will sleep with you. And of those five, one will be worth staying with.

But if you never talk to anyone, your odds of finding that someone worth being with are exactly zero.

Your choice.

And it’s none of my business, probably, but you might think about changing that username. Prophets of doom generally don’t get any decent women.

Cheers.

For as much as any man can hate the way game is done these days, if you are a single man and you want to satisfy your needs outside of porn, you’re going to need it.

I hate having to play these stupid mind games in person, over emails and texts and on the phone with women I just want to have sex with. Granted not all of my interactions are like those you’d find in major cities such as London, New York, LA, you still need to rise above the crowd and without fame and fortune you’re going to have to work.

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

…human females don’t come into “heat” and rarely have visual indicators for ovulation. [/quote]

Huh? I beg to differ.
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I meant they don’t have an estrus cycle which means they can only breed certain times of the year. Humans and bonobos and some other primates are open for business year round.

Open. For. Business.[/quote]

Female mammals have an estrous cycle. Even seasonal breeders have recurrent estrous cycles in the event fertilization doesn’t happen.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]ProphetofDoom wrote:
could i get a response to my second post on this thread.[/quote]

You want a response, kid?

Okay. Here is a response.

Welcome to Testosterone Nation, a website celebrating the hormone that makes life worth living. The magic molecule that separates the Men from the little boys, the Vixens from the little girls, and the Caballeros from the peons.

You, sir, have stumbled onto a golden opportunity to rub elbows with some of the mightiest mortals on the Internet. And how have you chosen to make your entrance? Please take a moment to read your first and second posts on this site. They drip… nay ooze with negativity, self-doubt and defeatism.

“its practically impossible to get a date outside of your social circle”

“No one ever gave a shit about me”

“I was only worth talking to when no one with higher social value was around”

“i’ve hardly ever bothered asking any girls out”

“i was always afraid of being cheated on for not being popular enough.”

“suffering from depression”

“pretty much friendless”

“I don’t have really much else to live for”

“limited life experiences”

“Hopefully going back to college … might make a difference … but i doubt it”

Boo hoo hoo.

Listen, Prophet of Doom, first of all, I gotta tell you, your choice of username is pathetically appropriate. You have written a self-fulfilling life prophecy if you really believe all the negative crap you have written about yourself. Elsewhere on this thread someone mentioned that the number one thing a woman… or a man, for that matter … is attracted to is confidence.

You strike me as someone who has not developed this vital attribute. No wonder you’ve never gotten a date. If you were a young woman, and someone like you asked you out, would you want to go out with you?

Sorry if I sound harsh, but for Christ’s sake, you are twenty-six years old. You are presumably healthy, reasonably wealthy (at least not desperately poor) and not hideous. You are at a college surrounded by 19 and 20 year old women in the Pacific Northwest of North America, breeding ground of some of the best women on the planet. What I would not give to be in your shoes right now.

You have a choice, Prophet of Doom. You can continue down the dark, lonely path you have been hacking for yourself in the wilderness, or you can choose a different one. It may not seem to you now like you have a choice, limited life experiences, no friends, no social network, and all that, but you DO. Make new friends. Acquire new skills. Create experiences.

Talk to women. Talk to them until they don’t scare you anymore. Ask some girls out. Who cares if they say no? Get used to being rejected. It will happen. Make it happen so often that it no longer bothers you. Understand from the outset that if you approach 100 women, maybe fifty will ignore you. Of the fifty that talk to you, twenty will go out with you. Of those twenty, five will sleep with you. And of those five, one will be worth staying with.

But if you never talk to anyone, your odds of finding that someone worth being with are exactly zero.

Your choice.

And it’s none of my business, probably, but you might think about changing that username. Prophets of doom generally don’t get any decent women.

Cheers. [/quote]

Nice work!

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

But I will say that when I began to APPLY what I learned about women, sex, display behavior, courtship, mating ritual, etc… from reading about evolutionary biology/psychology to the social dynamics of attraction, flirting and sexual escalation, I began to get very consistent results - it became downright predictable. Regardless of whether or not these “instincts” were designed or naturally evolved (which one could argue is by design…), they are certainly there and pulling the strings of our collective subconscious. It’s as real as pulling the hair on the nape of a woman’s neck during an intimate moment and watching her pupils dilate, her pulse quicken, her face flush and sploosh… [/quote]

That is the whole point I think some people miss on purpose.

There is the official narrative and then there is what is subsumed under “Game”.

It works.

Shockingly so.

So this whole howling and gnashing of teeth that it could not, should not, must not work says more about the heavy ego investment blue pillers have in their POV and very little of the effectiveness of adopting a different narrative.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
And it’s none of my business, probably, but you might think about changing that username. Prophets of doom generally don’t get any decent women.

Cheers. [/quote]

Come on, there has to be Doom groupies somewhere!

Prophet of Doom,

You seriously need to do more deadlifts.

That will fix everything.

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
And it’s none of my business, probably, but you might think about changing that username. Prophets of doom generally don’t get any decent women.

Cheers. [/quote]

Come on, there has to be Doom groupies somewhere!

[/quote]

Yes, but not when it comes from a position of weakness and despair.

If he became an agent of doom, he would probably have the beat them off with a stick.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
And it’s none of my business, probably, but you might think about changing that username. Prophets of doom generally don’t get any decent women.

Cheers. [/quote]

Come on, there has to be Doom groupies somewhere!

[/quote]

Yes, but not when it comes from a position of weakness and despair.

If he became an agent of doom, he would probably have the beat them off with a stick.

[/quote]

Like this Doom. He had women jumping off cliffs for him.