Found this a few days ago. The NRA has instructional clinics for woman. You learn all aspects of using/caring for firearms and have the opportunity to try different firearms so you know which ones you are most comfortable with.
http://women.nra.org/womens-instructional-shooting-clinics.aspx
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Back to what I was saying before, if you made it to the range, what did you think of your new gun? I’ll bet you loved it.[/quote]
Going this noon.
Will report back for sure.
Regarding your new thread: if you post on the over 35 you will be able to talk about your hormones and get feedback from Ksman and I can share a few things I learnt as well.
Turns out my injury might be hormone related and I have been taking progesterone to balance my endocrine system.
I am really sorry about your joints.
I am starting to look into natural hormone replacement from now as opposed to waiting till peri menopause.
^ Yes!!! Can’t wait.
Excellent points, all of them. You’ve convinced me. 35+ it is. I’m eager to hear your experiences. I <3 progesterone cream.
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
what did you think of your new gun? I’ll bet you loved it.[/quote]
You were right! 
I have found a new sport! I wish I had been raised in a country that allowed guns…what a waste of time not doing this before…
My very first shot was on the throat of the target and followed by a line of shots down the chest.
The gun was easy to hold and shoot but I did find myself ejecting the magazine a couple of times by changing the position of my hands.
I wanted to shoot with one hand to see what would happen but did not feel comfortable to do it on my first time: I mostly felt somewhat suffocated by the confinement of the cubicle in the range with everybody else shooting around me that I could not see.
I found that that more than anything else really disturbed my instinctual responses.
I have to say I could not focus on my shooting at all.
I found myself completely overwhelmed by being in a small space with so many gun shots going off.
This is the first time I even hear gun fire so being next to someone shotting left me on a state of alertness I had never experienced before.
I felt like a caged animal in the confinement of the booth and all this gun fire going off which was not from my gun - I could not help but have my attention go to it.
An open range would suit me much better but I will just have to train myself get used to it.
My second round was much more on target but I still could not switch off from the other gun shots being fired next to me. I think I will make good progress which is a relief since I was wondering if my bony wrists would prove too fragile to shoot properly.
But no, I LOVED the feel of the HK in my hand and I am looking forward to practicing and finding a grip that feels right - and more importantly that does not cause the magazine to eject. That being the greatest lesson learned on my first day.
I was also trying to focus on making sure the safety was back on after shotting and pointing the gun down the range. It would have really broken my confidence if I had made a mistake that caused the gun to misfire.
I chose not to fire the shotgun because I forgot to rack it and it did not fire a couple of times I tried and I was really stressed by then from all the gun shots being taken by other users as we were really close to each other.
I was mighty impressed though, to see my husband fire the shotgun and quite awed by seeing him shoot it with one hand and hit the target ( the Mossberg Chainsaw is HEA-VY ).
As far as home defense goes: shotgun all the way, Jackie.
I asked him to film my hand and wrist when shooting for the first time so I could see how I handled the recoil and he unfortunately decided to make a video of my ear instead ( said he wanted to see my face )…
shakes head
As far as the cleaning procedure goes: his is too complicated can you post your husband’s instead?
He created a cropped version.
It is totally totally ACE shotting with this gun!
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
what did you think of your new gun? I’ll bet you loved it.[/quote]
You were right!
I have found a new sport! I wish I had been raised in a country that allowed guns…what a waste of time not doing this before…
My very first shot was on the throat of the target and followed by a line of shots down the chest.
The gun was easy to hold and shoot but I did find myself ejecting the magazine a couple of times by changing the position of my hands.
I wanted to shoot with one hand to see what would happen but did not feel comfortable to do it on my first time: I mostly felt somewhat suffocated by the confinement of the cubicle in the range with everybody else shooting around me that I could not see.
I found that that more than anything else really disturbed my instinctual responses.
I have to say I could not focus on my shooting at all.
I found myself completely overwhelmed by being in a small space with so many gun shots going off.
This is the first time I even hear gun fire so being next to someone shotting left me on a state of alertness I had never experienced before.
I felt like a caged animal in the confinement of the booth and all this gun fire going off which was not from my gun - I could not help but have my attention go to it.
An open range would suit me much better but I will just have to train myself get used to it.
My second round was much more on target but I still could not switch off from the other gun shots being fired next to me. I think I will make good progress which is a relief since I was wondering if my bony wrists would prove too fragile to shoot properly.
But no, I LOVED the feel of the HK in my hand and I am looking forward to practicing and finding a grip that feels right - and more importantly that does not cause the magazine to eject. That being the greatest lesson learned on my first day.
I was also trying to focus on making sure the safety was back on after shotting and pointing the gun down the range. It would have really broken my confidence if I had made a mistake that caused the gun to misfire.
I chose not to fire the shotgun because I forgot to rack it and it did not fire a couple of times I tried and I was really stressed by then from all the gun shots being taken by other users as we were really close to each other.
I was mighty impressed though, to see my husband fire the shotgun and quite awed by seeing him shoot it with one hand and hit the target ( the Mossberg Chainsaw is HEA-VY ).
As far as home defense goes: shotgun all the way, Jackie.
I asked him to film my hand and wrist when shooting for the first time so I could see how I handled the recoil and he unfortunately decided to make a video of my ear instead ( said he wanted to see my face )…
shakes head
As far as the cleaning procedure goes: his is too complicated can you post your husband’s instead?
[/quote]
You did much better than I, your first time. Did you keep your target sheet? I’ll bet you did.
I’m so excited for you since I knew you would just love it the way that you did.
Your first shot was to the throat? You are on the right track. lol Naturally, I like to shoot down and to the left so I have to over-correct but I manage.
It’s good that you realized right away how easy it was to accidentally eject the magazine before you became too comfortable with the way you handled your gun. You’re probably not alone in the one-handed shooting. Many things I’ve seen and read since I had first wondered about it confirmed what I thought - not an ideal way to shoot but good to practice at some point just in case you’re left with only one hand to shoot with.
Shooting in the cubicles is really distracting, isn’t it? You might be onto something with hearing shots but not seeing exactly where they’re coming from. I believe this. After all, your senses are almost in over-drive and you become super sensitive to your surroundings. I imagine this would go away, or not be so severe, the more that you familiarize yourself with your gun and those surroundings.
Isn’t the fear of misfiring terrifying? It was so intimidating.
You will have another day with the shotgun. Maybe there is a time at that range when they are less busy?
There is something about seeing a man firing a shotgun with skill. Has he had it long?
Haha! Your husband loves to look at you! Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it’s very endearing. Was he impressed with your first try with the HK?
Of course I will post how my husband cleans the beretta. I haven’t seen him do it yet but when he does, I sure will. How awful is that that I haven’t paid attention? I know. 
He is doing consulting work around the clock now so I have not really seen him in a while. Hopefully things slow down so that I can go shoot and learn how to clean my new prized possession.
I’m over the moon that you had such a great experience at the range. Isn’t it just the most liberating feeling ever?
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
He created a cropped version.
It is totally totally ACE shotting with this gun![/quote]
Incredible! Thank you for posting that, I really enjoyed watching it.
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Did your grandfather ever tell you what he thought of her actions that day? I’ll bet he thought she was a heroine of sorts. There was no way she could have known any of that. She was a tiny woman and did what she thought she had to. No doubt that it was traumatizing to her.
You might not be so envious of the garage gym if you knew how cold my barbells and dumbbells were now. lol It certainly is a test of dedication.
My goals now have changed since my joints cannot take anymore heavy singles. I’ll have to have some element of strength in there or I will be bored but I’d definitely like to get back to my pre-pregnancy look. I think that tomorrow I may start a log in log in the Powerful Women section or Over 35. It would be great if you stopped by. :)[/quote]
Nope. I never talked about the incident with either of them. They both died in their 80’s, when I was in my college years. My dad and his brothers have told the story, and they still have her pearl handled pistol.
As for a freezing cold garage - I’ve become such a wimp. I really suffer when the temps drop below 50. I saw a t-shirt recently that said “I Don’t Do Winter.” That about sums it up.
I haven’t followed logs much for awhile, but it really helped me the first year I started lifting. You can tell by my high comment count that I was at one time log addicted. Back in the day when there were more women here. If you start one, I’d be happy to follow along. It helps me to stay motivated. I’ll add you to my friends list so your posts will pop up and I’ll see it.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I have found a new sport! I wish I had been raised in a country that allowed guns…what a waste of time not doing this before…
[/quote]
[/quote]
Push - I just wanted you to know, I’ve kept your son in my prayers since I heard about his accident. I know everyone on here thought it would be so much fun to have a son who shares our lifting hobby. I hope he’s doing well. The pictures made me feel like my heart was caught in a vise. My best to you and your family.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I have found a new sport! I wish I had been raised in a country that allowed guns…what a waste of time not doing this before…
[/quote]
[/quote]
Push - I just wanted you to know, I’ve kept your son in my prayers since I heard about his accident. I know everyone on here thought it would be so much fun to have a son who shares our lifting hobby. I hope he’s doing well. The pictures made me feel like my heart was caught in a vise. My best to you and your family.
[/quote]
Thank you!
He is doing very well. Has adjusted magnificently. Funny thing is this may have opened up some new opportunities for him, career wise. It has also certainly made him mentally stronger.
I lift with him and my daughter (I just started training her a couple months ago) regularly, even as recently as yesterday. His progression in the gym and body comp wise has been fantastic. He’s put on 5 lbs of muscle in the last couple months.
Called me last week to let me know he’s already deadlifting. If you saw his hand you’d realize what a feat that is. He has been chinning and doing BB/DB work for awhile already too.
He’s an inspiration to all those around him. I’m the proudest dad in all the land.[/quote]
That’s great to hear, Push.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I have found a new sport! I wish I had been raised in a country that allowed guns…what a waste of time not doing this before…
[/quote]
[/quote]
Push - I just wanted you to know, I’ve kept your son in my prayers since I heard about his accident. I know everyone on here thought it would be so much fun to have a son who shares our lifting hobby. I hope he’s doing well. The pictures made me feel like my heart was caught in a vise. My best to you and your family.
[/quote]
Thank you!
He is doing very well. Has adjusted magnificently. Funny thing is this may have opened up some new opportunities for him, career wise. It has also certainly made him mentally stronger.
I lift with him and my daughter (I just started training her a couple months ago) regularly, even as recently as yesterday. His progression in the gym and body comp wise has been fantastic. He’s put on 5 lbs of muscle in the last couple months.
Called me last week to let me know he’s already deadlifting. If you saw his hand you’d realize what a feat that is. He has been chinning and doing BB/DB work for awhile already too.
He’s an inspiration to all those around him. I’m the proudest dad in all the land.[/quote]
Good news, indeed. Amazing, really considering how bad the injury was. You can’t keep a good man down.
About training your daughter, I have hopes for my little one in a few years. That could be so much fun.
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
You did much better than I, your first time. Did you keep your target sheet? I’ll bet you did. [/quote]
You are kind, thank you!
No, I didn’t keep it…when my husband read your post he said what a shame we should have kept it but to be honest with you we only had one hour and my husband was very aware also how the gunfire was affecting me: even though I did emotionally want to shoot more and stay longer my hands were actually shaking 40 minutes into the session.
The best way to describe this is with the trapped animal being keyed up.
You can hear on the above video how loud the shots from the person next to me were.
I was also expecting the range to be more spacious and it wasn’t but I am sure I will get used to it. [quote]
I’m so excited for you since I knew you would just love it the way that you did.
Your first shot was to the throat? You are on the right track. lol Naturally, I like to shoot down and to the left so I have to over-correct but I manage. [/quote] Have you tried experimenting with your posture?
Absolutely, it will go away once it becomes familiar. I also did not put the ear plugs in properly and next time I will wear both the ear plugs and the ear muffs together. [quote]
Isn’t the fear of misfiring terrifying? It was so intimidating. [/quote]
Yes. I treated the guns with absolute respect. It is a fantastic invention, though. If you take away the “guns are for killing people” childhood message I was brainwashed with daily, it is quite the instrument to build confidence through the appropriate respectful handling of raw power.
It has become even more clear to me now why the government doesn’t want mature adults to have it: it encourages individual powerlessness.[quote]
You will have another day with the shotgun. Maybe there is a time at that range when they are less busy?
[/quote]
We are going again on Monday. Will be a more relaxing experience second time around and I will remember to save my target this time! [quote]
There is something about seeing a man firing a shotgun with skill. Has he had it long? [/quote]
No. He had only ever used a shotgun with a stock grip.
He said the Mossberg chainsaw was really “bad ass to shoot with” after we left the range so I think the fun he had with it probably accounted for the skillful handling of it. [quote]
Haha! Your husband loves to look at you! Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it’s very endearing. Was he impressed with your first try with the HK? [/quote] I know that is why I forgave him even though I really could have had a close up of the hand and gun. It was still good enough to see the muzzle flip and even some fire when we played in slow motion.
I don’t know if he was impressed. I think he was more keenly aware how the gun shots were affecting my CNS and so he didn’t feel it was the right learning environment for me: he said it is good to practice while improving but when my hand coordination was being affected from being stressed it was best to stop and resume when feeling more relaxed.
But I think he feels very lucky I did not recoil in fear in spite of coming from countries that taught that guns are “bad”. [quote]
Of course I will post how my husband cleans the beretta. I haven’t seen him do it yet but when he does, I sure will. How awful is that that I haven’t paid attention? I know. [/quote] You just gave birth. I think that is a huge and courageous accomplishment.
If you went to the range while pregnant, little Maya will probably not be as startled as me when being in the presence of gun fire. [quote]
I’m over the moon that you had such a great experience at the range. Isn’t it just the most liberating feeling ever?[/quote]
Absolutely!
Amen, my sister.
I don’t know what it does for a man but for a woman it is just like you said:
It is the very experience of freedom.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I have found a new sport! I wish I had been raised in a country that allowed guns…what a waste of time not doing this before…
[/quote]
[/quote]
Push - I just wanted you to know, I’ve kept your son in my prayers since I heard about his accident. I know everyone on here thought it would be so much fun to have a son who shares our lifting hobby. I hope he’s doing well. The pictures made me feel like my heart was caught in a vise. My best to you and your family.
[/quote]
Thank you!
He is doing very well. Has adjusted magnificently. Funny thing is this may have opened up some new opportunities for him, career wise. It has also certainly made him mentally stronger.
I lift with him and my daughter (I just started training her a couple months ago) regularly, even as recently as yesterday. His progression in the gym and body comp wise has been fantastic. He’s put on 5 lbs of muscle in the last couple months.
Called me last week to let me know he’s already deadlifting. If you saw his hand you’d realize what a feat that is. He has been chinning and doing BB/DB work for awhile already too.
He’s an inspiration to all those around him. I’m the proudest dad in all the land.[/quote]
That’s great to hear, Push.
[/quote]
Absolutely great news!
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Did your grandfather ever tell you what he thought of her actions that day? I’ll bet he thought she was a heroine of sorts. There was no way she could have known any of that. She was a tiny woman and did what she thought she had to. No doubt that it was traumatizing to her.
You might not be so envious of the garage gym if you knew how cold my barbells and dumbbells were now. lol It certainly is a test of dedication.
My goals now have changed since my joints cannot take anymore heavy singles. I’ll have to have some element of strength in there or I will be bored but I’d definitely like to get back to my pre-pregnancy look. I think that tomorrow I may start a log in log in the Powerful Women section or Over 35. It would be great if you stopped by. :)[/quote]
Nope. I never talked about the incident with either of them. They both died in their 80’s, when I was in my college years. My dad and his brothers have told the story, and they still have her pearl handled pistol.
As for a freezing cold garage - I’ve become such a wimp. I really suffer when the temps drop below 50. I saw a t-shirt recently that said “I Don’t Do Winter.” That about sums it up.
I haven’t followed logs much for awhile, but it really helped me the first year I started lifting. You can tell by my high comment count that I was at one time log addicted. Back in the day when there were more women here. If you start one, I’d be happy to follow along. It helps me to stay motivated. I’ll add you to my friends list so your posts will pop up and I’ll see it.
[/quote]
I’m sure she was a very respected woman and it speaks volumes that the men in the family tell the story about how Grandma took care of herself (even though it obviously affected in a way that affected her ability to ever be comfortable by herself again).
You’re not the only wimp and if you designed that t-shirt, I’d wear it. lol It’s to the point where it feels like I will get frostbite in the garage so I’m doing KB complexes, cardio and mobility work - in the house. It’s nothing like my power rack though so I’m anxiously awaiting the spring.
Thank you so much and I returned, in kind. The log will still come to fruition. I realize it’s been a few days now. The important thing, in the meantime, is that workouts are occurring. Log to follow. Maybe you have some quad sweep pointers for me.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
You did much better than I, your first time. Did you keep your target sheet? I’ll bet you did. [/quote]
You are kind, thank you!
No, I didn’t keep it…when my husband read your post he said what a shame we should have kept it but to be honest with you we only had one hour and my husband was very aware also how the gunfire was affecting me: even though I did emotionally want to shoot more and stay longer my hands were actually shaking 40 minutes into the session.
The best way to describe this is with the trapped animal being keyed up.
You can hear on the above video how loud the shots from the person next to me were.
I was also expecting the range to be more spacious and it wasn’t but I am sure I will get used to it. [quote]
I’m so excited for you since I knew you would just love it the way that you did.
Your first shot was to the throat? You are on the right track. lol Naturally, I like to shoot down and to the left so I have to over-correct but I manage. [/quote] Have you tried experimenting with your posture?
Absolutely, it will go away once it becomes familiar. I also did not put the ear plugs in properly and next time I will wear both the ear plugs and the ear muffs together. [quote]
Isn’t the fear of misfiring terrifying? It was so intimidating. [/quote]
Yes. I treated the guns with absolute respect. It is a fantastic invention, though. If you take away the “guns are for killing people” childhood message I was brainwashed with daily, it is quite the instrument to build confidence through the appropriate respectful handling of raw power.
It has become even more clear to me now why the government doesn’t want mature adults to have it: it encourages individual powerlessness.[quote]
You will have another day with the shotgun. Maybe there is a time at that range when they are less busy?
[/quote]
We are going again on Monday. Will be a more relaxing experience second time around and I will remember to save my target this time! [quote]
There is something about seeing a man firing a shotgun with skill. Has he had it long? [/quote]
No. He had only ever used a shotgun with a stock grip.
He said the Mossberg chainsaw was really “bad ass to shoot with” after we left the range so I think the fun he had with it probably accounted for the skillful handling of it. [quote]
Haha! Your husband loves to look at you! Nothing wrong with that. In fact, it’s very endearing. Was he impressed with your first try with the HK? [/quote] I know that is why I forgave him even though I really could have had a close up of the hand and gun. It was still good enough to see the muzzle flip and even some fire when we played in slow motion.
I don’t know if he was impressed. I think he was more keenly aware how the gun shots were affecting my CNS and so he didn’t feel it was the right learning environment for me: he said it is good to practice while improving but when my hand coordination was being affected from being stressed it was best to stop and resume when feeling more relaxed.
But I think he feels very lucky I did not recoil in fear in spite of coming from countries that taught that guns are “bad”. [quote]
Of course I will post how my husband cleans the beretta. I haven’t seen him do it yet but when he does, I sure will. How awful is that that I haven’t paid attention? I know. [/quote] You just gave birth. I think that is a huge and courageous accomplishment.
If you went to the range while pregnant, little Maya will probably not be as startled as me when being in the presence of gun fire. [quote]
I’m over the moon that you had such a great experience at the range. Isn’t it just the most liberating feeling ever?[/quote]
Absolutely!
Amen, my sister.
I don’t know what it does for a man but for a woman it is just like you said:
It is the very experience of freedom.[/quote]
Oh well, you can keep your next sheet. I’m sure it was your husbands priority to get you out of there; it is a very overwhelming experience the first time. I wholeheartedly understand. I, too, remember having a sort of caged up, claustrophobic feeling.
You already have another range date? That’s great!
The next time will be more familiar to you. I also can’t recommend good ear protection enough. It can get really loud in there. Do you have anything outdoor there? I’m going to try to find something outdoor in my area for when the weather isn’t - well - freezing.
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Oh well, you can keep your next sheet. I’m sure it was your husbands priority to get you out of there; it is a very overwhelming experience the first time. I wholeheartedly understand. I, too, remember having a sort of caged up, claustrophobic feeling.
You already have another range date? That’s great!
The next time will be more familiar to you. I also can’t recommend good ear protection enough. It can get really loud in there. Do you have anything outdoor there? I’m going to try to find something outdoor in my area for when the weather isn’t - well - freezing. [/quote]
I believe the overwhelming factor was amplified by my hormonal state.
I am taking actual progesterone: 200 mg a day.
My FSH and LH were high and it has been causing an over stimulation.
On that note, if you are still breast feeding you will be producing prolactin and oxytocin.
These two hormones block the release of FSH and LH.
I would look into it and see how this cocktail affects your training capacity and tailor accordingly so you don’t swim against your present hormonal current.
We will be looking for an outdoor and more “natural” range.
Powerpuff:
I, too, need that T-shirt.
Was thinking about “chick guns” a bit, and thought of the FN Five-seveN.
(Yes, the “N” is correct.)
It’s chambered in 5.7X28, which is a very small, but very fast, round. The weapon holds 21 rounds (which is a fucktard lot of rounds for a pistol).
The grip is a bit thick for some, and its a very expensive weapon, but has zero recoil and the round (because it is so fast and dense) has more stopping power than anything I’ve seen in a pistol.
Some of the OGEs (read: spooks) we took with us in Afganistan had them and they were the only pistol I’ve seen kill people like a rifle.
Very expensive rounds, too. Basically a down-sized rifle bullet in a pistol.
To put it in perspective, the jihadi doctor who went shot up Ft. Hood used a 5-7 and killed, what, 46 people? (Or 16 and injured 46, can’t remember.)
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Was thinking about “chick guns” a bit, and thought of the FN Five-seveN.
(Yes, the “N” is correct.)
It’s chambered in 5.7X28, which is a very small, but very fast, round. The weapon holds 21 rounds (which is a fucktard lot of rounds for a pistol).
The grip is a bit thick for some, and its a very expensive weapon, but has zero recoil and the round (because it is so fast and dense) has more stopping power than anything I’ve seen in a pistol.
Some of the OGEs (read: spooks) we took with us in Afganistan had them and they were the only pistol I’ve seen kill people like a rifle.
Very expensive rounds, too. Basically a down-sized rifle bullet in a pistol.
To put it in perspective, the jihadi doctor who went shot up Ft. Hood used a 5-7 and killed, what, 46 people? (Or 16 and injured 46, can’t remember.)[/quote]
1200 bucks at Cabellas, but it looks pretty sweet. Here’s a random youtube review.
