Girls with Guns... and Sometimes Spears

[quote]pushharder wrote:

As incredible as this may seem…Montana has recently become a place where both toilet paper and showers have been introduced. Their use has been implemented and is now somewhat prevalent. We residents are simply delighted. The tourists even more so! [/quote]

You are hilarious! :smiley:

Great pictures!

I am going to clean up all that wood on your back yard with my spear…hee hee.

Hopefully we can build a fire and cook baked potatoes and sweet potatoes and corn and sausages and squirrel

:slight_smile:

… and I will bring a good Scottish Laphroaig whiskey to keep us talking - you must get some beautiful night skies if no city lights are near.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
A nifty carry device for females that I originally thought was stupid was the bra holster. Pretty slick and very well concealed.

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I have a question for you.

It is a serious, genuine and respectful question though it has to be direct and blunt:

Would you buy a holster that went between your balls?

I ask because I am having psychological discomfort with the idea of having a firearm between my breasts.
The thought of it misfiring and hitting a boob is just horrific.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Would you buy a holster that went between your balls?

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And risk coming off half-cocked? (Sorry couldn’t resist.)

In seriousness, most holsters are somewhere around the waist, so yes. I wore a cross draw holster in Iraq.

Holsters around the waist are hard to get to and often uncomfortable sitting.

Your chest us up and out of the way, unless you sit around all day playing with your boobs.*

  • Which I would do, if I was a woman, at least for a while.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Would you buy a holster that went between your balls?

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And risk coming off half-cocked? (Sorry couldn’t resist.) [/quote]

LOL
Fair enough I gave you that joke on a platter! [quote]

In seriousness, most holsters are somewhere around the waist, so yes. I wore a cross draw holster in Iraq.

Holsters around the waist are hard to get to and often uncomfortable sitting.
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The cross draw holster has the gun facing away from your goods.
And you are in no way dropping your pants and reaching for the goods.

The bra holster has her lifting her shirt and reaching for the boob.

It is probably a male invention ( arising from what you and many males do say that they would play with their boos all day if they were women ).

I did think however about the Chiappa Rhino 200DS as a CCW ( I want to get my license ) and it occurred to me it could be hidden in the bra.

I thought of the this revolver also for Jackie wanting to shoot with one hand: its main pro feature is minimized recoil and muzzle flip.

My husband said it would be better though if it was a 3" barrel instead of 2".

Have you shot much with one hand?

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Would you buy a holster that went between your balls?

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Most concealed holsters do in some way, except perhaps a shoulder holster. The risk in shooting the femeral artery from any concealed hip-located weapon is a far greater threat to your life than shooting a boob.

Regarding “lifting of a shirt” – who cares? You are about to shoot someone. Modesty is the least of the issues in that circumstance.

The comment about a hip holster being uncomfortable is also true.

Jewbacca,

Do you have experience shooting with one hand?

If so, is it doable or is it just “Hollywood”?

( I recently watched The Expendables and saw Stalone shooting with a gun on each hand and of course it looks so easy )

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

The risk in shooting the femeral artery from any concealed hip-located weapon is a far greater threat to your life than shooting a boob.
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It wasn’t so much reacting to the risk to life but to the risk to my femininity, :slight_smile:

Though the above is a good point!

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Do you have experience shooting with one hand?

If so, is it doable or is it just “Hollywood”?

( I recently watched The Expendables and saw Stalone shooting with a gun on each hand and of course it looks so easy )[/quote]

I can shoot a pistol or rifle with either hand or eye (and with both eyes open). This is a basic skill and easily learned.

It is, of course, better to shoot with two hands. The pistol is more stable and much harder to be removed involuntarily.

Shooting two pistols at the same time is Hollywood stupidity.

Shooting with one hand when you have access to two is Hollywood stupidity. (You train for the unlikely occurance of having to use one hand.)

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

…I’m so excited for you about your hunting trip to Montana. It will be an exhilarating experience, no doubt. Hopefully you will share with us what you hunt.

I think I’d miss toilet paper and showers also but I’d try! You, I’m certain would fair just fine. [/quote]

As incredible as this may seem…Montana has recently become a place where both toilet paper and showers have been introduced. Their use has been implemented and is now somewhat prevalent. We residents are simply delighted. The tourists even more so!

:wink:

Big game hunting possibilities are pretty much nil when AF and hub are due in June but we can do lots of shooting. Coyotes and ground squirrels are available.

We will still have lots of fun. Had a Canadian T-Nation couple here the last two summers and they were enthralled at being able to step out my back door and target shoot right behind my house in the woods (Canucks can’t have much fun with handguns in the Great White North due to ridiculous gun control laws).
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LOL! But do you have indoor plumbing?

I’m sure that AF and her husband will have a grand time in Montana. There will be a writeup in honor of the occasion, I hope. You also always seem to have great pictures for everything that you do. Thanks for sharing, btw.

In Canada they have ridiculous (gun) laws…I almost now just typed loss - oh, the irony.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Jackie - Congrats on the beautiful baby girl. You’ll be back in fighting shape in no time. And thank for your kind words about my physique progress on my Jelena thread. I stopped posting there because in typical Tnation fashion if got way off topic. Anyway, that’s pretty sweet to have anyone pair my name with her’s. Thank you.


I’m not a gun enthusiast, but I grew up in rural environment where everyone has hunting rifles, at least. Some of that is a matter of practicality in a ranching community. I don’t have an interest in hunting, but I have put down a few tin cans and clay pigeons in my time. I’m not afraid of guns, unless one’s pointed at me. :slight_smile:

I have wondered why more women aren’t pro 2nd amendment. I consider myself a bit of a feminist, although usually from a more moderate point of view. This is a generalization, but we all know that even an untrained man is nearly always physically much stronger than the average woman.

Case in point, I have trained for over two years to be super proud of my 110 pound bench press. LOL! Even my 17-year-old son who has never lifted could quickly subdue me physically if we wanted to.

As a small woman, my only hope would be to stay far enough away from an assailant to not let them touch me. Once someone was close enough to grab me, it’s over. You’d think more women would see the opportunity to have a gun as an equalizer. Now physical size and strength doesn’t matter. Equality. WHOOT!

I assume a lot of people buy into the ridiculous notion that they are actually safer without a weapon, since it will most likely be used on them. There are no numbers to actually back that up, but that doesn’t seem to stop people from believing it. [/quote]

Thank you so much. :slight_smile:

Threads get off topic here? Noooo. lol You deserved the praise and are reaping the benefits of all of your training. You have put in the work and have the body to show for it and are every bit deserving of having your name beside Jelena’s. I am getting there but more slowly than what I would like, albeit I’m not very patient but thank you, again. :slight_smile:

You have brought up the exact reason why women should be pro-2nd amendment – it evens the playing field in an arena that we wouldn’t have a chance in otherwise. You have a very realistic understanding of why we don’t want to be in a close combat situation. The chance is so great that we would, more often than not, be on the losing end.

So, what is more fun? Clay pigeons or tin cans? lol

A 110 pound bench is nothing to be scoffed at, btw. That’s a very respectable number. If you take body weight into consideration, I’m positive that you would be much stronger than myself.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

If Alpha F would like to share her experiences with her new gun or spear or many knives, that would be most excellent. Should I have something new to update with, I will also. [/quote]

So far the experience is waiting. :frowning:
Should be able to go to the range this weekend, hopefully.

We received the HK and as soon as we got home he went straight into cleaning, dissembling, sonicating it, greasing, polishing, reassembling, then experimenting with the grip…

The grip fit me perfect! Doesn’t get more ergonomic than this.
Great engineering and manufacturing, I say.

It was really a pleasure to see the husband with that simple happiness that only men know how to have with their chosen hobbies.
Funny thing is I love the action part of things but I don’t experience the joy in looking after the equipment - to men it is like their babies.

We got the bullets today and off he goes again…by the way we already found difficult to buy them: locally we found nothing and went back to Cheaper Then Dirt and they are sold out!

Do you know how to clean the gun yet?

My husband seems to be going to through a very thorough procedure, including a lubricant in white powder form.
( Graphite is a dark form of this lubricant )

I want to ask where you are form but am also intrigued as I don’t have a clue.

I tend to think Australian but don’t see any clues in your English.
Then my second guess would be eastern European ( Russian? )
Then German/Austrian?

And yes, let’s hope America fights for their freedom!
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:open_mouth: It certainly does fit your hand well. Very nice! You seem very pleased with it; I’m happy for you.

I have not yet learned to clean it, no. In the future I will learn, but only because it’s in my nature to have to know how to do everything involved in a task. What can I say? I clean enough stuff. lol Do you think you will partake in the cleaning or let your husband be happy doing it? My husband is like that with guns and cars.

Bullets are VERY difficult to find now - almost impossible - both online and at stores. We go to Scheels and Gander Mountain and they still had ammo as of last Friday but are beginning to limit the number of items you may purchase so as to keep one person from buying them out. I don’t know if you have a location close to you or not but there are a few Gander Mountains in Florida.

Actually, I am from Canada. If you look closely you will see the odd slip, such as when I spell check - C H E Q U E. You will get a lot of grief for that here. lol The USA is my home now and I invariably do try to do things the way the people here do. Out of my respect for the people here, I try to conform to their ways of doing things. We have the same view on this from what I gather.

Freedom! :slight_smile:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

Would you buy a holster that went between your balls?

[/quote]

And risk coming off half-cocked? (Sorry couldn’t resist.) [/quote]

LOL
Fair enough I gave you that joke on a platter! [quote]

In seriousness, most holsters are somewhere around the waist, so yes. I wore a cross draw holster in Iraq.

Holsters around the waist are hard to get to and often uncomfortable sitting.
[/quote]

The cross draw holster has the gun facing away from your goods.
And you are in no way dropping your pants and reaching for the goods.

The bra holster has her lifting her shirt and reaching for the boob.

It is probably a male invention ( arising from what you and many males do say that they would play with their boos all day if they were women ).

I did think however about the Chiappa Rhino 200DS as a CCW ( I want to get my license ) and it occurred to me it could be hidden in the bra.

I thought of the this revolver also for Jackie wanting to shoot with one hand: its main pro feature is minimized recoil and muzzle flip.

My husband said it would be better though if it was a 3" barrel instead of 2".

Have you shot much with one hand?

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My husband thought this gun was a really good idea. This weekend, I will try at Gander Mountain to hold this (if they have it) and your H&K to see how they feel. Thanks for the ideas!

In everyone’s opinion, would the Flashbang be the most ideal holster for a woman? The video posted by thethirdruffian looked relatively smooth. I would think with some practice one would be able to pull that off without too much of an issue.

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Do you think you will partake in the cleaning or let your husband be happy doing it? My husband is like that with guns and cars.
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I will do the cleaning by myself. Absolutely.
I just don’t have the joy of cleaning it as much as I have the joy of using it.

I am like that with my sports equipment also.
I am the type of person that thinks scratches are character marks of warrior hood on my equipment: proof that I have pushed the boundaries.

Let me know if you want a list of the cleaning stuff he uses.
Myself, I told him I want to learn to dissemble and clean the gun only after I have had a chance to use it.

Got to have my joy first, :slight_smile:

And as I mentioned : I had no clue where you where from and I was right, I would have never guessed!

I know when I don’t know.

Welcome! Lot’s of Canadians tourists come to the area I live; very friendly people.

( Not being American means I have no inherited judgments on Canadians but as trivia: Brazilians pre judge the Portuguese as the English do Americans. I put it down to “brotherly love” )

EDITED for clarity.

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
In everyone’s opinion, would the Flashbang be the most ideal holster for a woman? The video posted by thethirdruffian looked relatively smooth. I would think with some practice one would be able to pull that off without too much of an issue.[/quote]

Note, I like that holster and know of one female who likes it.

But the right holster depends on your clothes, the weapon, what you are doing.

If you carry, you’ll end up with multiple pistols and even more holsters, just because the your needs will change.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I have wondered why more women aren’t pro 2nd amendment. [/quote]

Me, too.

Sam Colt’s Pistol was called “the Great Equalizer” and most of the early women’s suffragists credited the pistol (reasonably cheap, easy to use, effective) as one of the great, practical, reasons why women became equal in the United States.

I also note that some models of the Great Equalizer came with 8 shots, much to the chagrin of the idiots who governs New York state and city.[/quote]

Interesting history. I didn’t know that.

Here’s some history from my family. This was back in the 1940’s in rural New Mexico. My grandpa was out in the fields with my father, and his two older brothers. My grandmother was home alone with her two youngest children when a man came up to the farmhouse and started climbing through her living room window. She told him to get out. When he proceeded to come into the house, she shot him with a 38 caliber pistol. He died in her living room. It wasn’t a story she ever repeated, but my dad and his brothers have told it to us. My grandmother was a tiny woman, more known for playing the piano down at the baptist church, and having a beautiful flower garden than her gun skills. It was considered a simple case of self defense back then.

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

…You have brought up the exact reason why women should be pro-2nd amendment – it evens the playing field in an arena that we wouldn’t have a chance in otherwise. You have a very realistic understanding of why we don’t want to be in a close combat situation. The chance is so great that we would, more often than not, be on the losing end.

So, what is more fun? Clay pigeons or tin cans? lol

A 110 pound bench is nothing to be scoffed at, btw. That’s a very respectable number. If you take body weight into consideration, I’m positive that you would be much stronger than myself.

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True about evening the playing field.

I had to laugh a little at the chest holster video. I was surprised nobody made a joke about having a nice rack… I’m afraid I don’t have enough er…how to put this…pec development to conceal a weapon very well. I guess that’s what bulky sweaters are for. :slight_smile:

A little off topic, but I recently read a very good letter to the editor, prompted by the recent elementary school shooting in Connecticut. This is the main idea. We seem to like the idea of gun-free zones at places like airports. This is key - Those gun-free zones are enforced through metal detectors and armed security guards. We want to declare schools as gun free zones, but they are usually protected by what? An imaginary bubble. Aside from some inner city high schools, there are usually no metal detectors, search procedures, or armed security. Nothing. It’s just a zone where the crazy people of the world can be assured that the people inside the imaginary bubble are unarmed. This doesn’t make any logical sense to me. We will always have some crazy people who are capable of violent behavior. How does the imaginary bubble make us feel better about that?

Edit: I forgot to answer your question! Clay pigeons are very fun, but it’s been a long time. My husband and kids went out shooting over the Christmas holiday with my dad, but it was too cold out for Puff. :slight_smile: