Girlfriend upset about playboy

Hey, we’re hijacking this thread! :wink:

New Orleans would be cool. I've always wanted to spend a Christmas there. But I've ALWAYS wanted to go to New York. Maybe sometime soon - Ko and I will go for the Big Apple Comic Book Show. And never have been to the east side of Canada - just B.C. and Victoria. Would LOVE to visit Toronto someday...Someday (sigh).

The female form has been the subject of art for centuries. As a matter of fact, I prefer to draw women over men when it comes to my own work. Many of my favorite artists are the ones who are excellent in their representation of the female form. Frank Frazetta, Gil Elvgren, Vargas, Petty, etc. Gil Elvgren’s work can occasionally be spotted at the bottom of a Atomic Dog article here in T-Mag. His women were sublime in form. Frank Frazetta’s women were marvelous creatures. They are sensual, strong and beautiful. Full busted, well-rounded. His, in my opinion, are some of the best creations in art of women. And there’s the old Esquire magazines that would feature Vargas or Petty girls. Vargas and Petty were masters of airbrushed art.

Now there is also Heavy Metal magazine. We have a collection at home. It contains sexually explicit stories, but also amazing art. Very good stuff. I'm sure Michelle, who has a background with comic books (right?) - is familiar with Heavy Metal. There's also a book called "Mammoth Book of Illustrated Erotica" - check it out. Very interesting. And how about some of the European artists? Like Milo Manara? Serpieri?

My suggestion to some of these guys would be to, yes, put down the Playboys, etc. Just for a bit. But check out what else is out there in the way of art. I've provided you a list above. And I have more, if you'd like. There's a gallery in Portland that has a annual Erotica show. I mean, there's sculptures that are truly phallic in nature and nude photos, etc. Very interesting stuff. I'm hoping to get some of my work in there for next year's show. Ko and I have a friend who's a photographer and she has this amazing ability to photograph beautiful nudes (she's done some of me, too), and was showing there. Had a good time, looking at li'l dick-like sculptures (man, there are some twisted artists out there. he he he). I also had a hair stylist who useto put on some "Fetish" show - and I decided to check that out once. Lots of nude bodies with bodypaint on, etc.

You know, I am pretty comfortable with my body and my sexuality. Does that make sound insecure? Hmmmmm. He he he.

Explain the difference between viewing someones sculpture for it’s beauty,and a magazine showing what they feel is beautiful.Also,regarding your examples of your security,I’ll ask you,do you think every stripper is secure with themselves?Obviously,your examples don’t exempt someone from being insecure.You may not be.

Who? me? comics? naaaaa (shoves a box of a few hundred under the bed grin)

I think there is only one artist who successfuly caught the very sinister macabric essence of female soul. His name is HR Giger. I hope you are familiar with his work.

People come to this site and post questions on a variety of topics: training, nutrition, relationships, etc. Giving people information about our backgrounds, accomplishments, experiences, etc. (what you call being insecure and bragging) we add credibility to our posts. Is this a bad thing? I do not think so. I want to know if someone excels in a specific field, so that I know their information is valid, or just to get to know a person a little better since we cannot meet face to face. Based on your posts in this thread and others, I find your advice on relationships laughable at best ( I especially like the one in the “what is love” post). On another note, Muscle Jeff did not give us much info on his girlfriend, besides the fact that she does not like playboy. She could be a great girl for all we know. Why throw that away over a few nudie mags. I bet she would have less of a problem with the muscle mags if the playboys were gone.

I’m jumping in. Axy, that last comment was out of line. You’re being a prick. So what if you’ve had your heart broken? Welcome to adulthood. Deal with it. Your issues with women taint your worldview, and I sincerely hope that you get your shit straightened out before you end up old, alone, and miserable. Ladies, we’re not all as bitter and empty as this guy.

Eastern part of Ontario, not as far as the Maritimes. Never been there. Is that where you are?

So, GM, shall we have a beer in Niagara Falls?

Ko: I do not call “giving people information about backgrounds, accomplishments and experiences” - being insecure and bragging. I call being insecure and bragging - being insecure and bragging. I am also glad I sometimes make you laugh because of my posts. Laughter is a good thing, it is healthy for you. Demo Dick: Thank you for jumping in. What last comment? My last post was about HR Giger and his paintings. Before that I basically saluted a girl because of her post - now, that is what I would call a Woman with capital “W”. Before that, I wrote something to Patricia, also non-offensive. I really cannot find anything offensive in my posts. My heart broken? I would not say I had my heart broken, whatever that means. My issues with women? What issues? Adulthood? Sometimes I think I am a bit too adult as it is. Old, alone and miserable? Remember what Nietzsche said - you are born alone and you die alone, all people in your life are just support role players. (rough translation from German). To All Women: Just go ahead for sweet and full guys like Demo Dick and not bitter and empty ones like myself. He even polishes his own collar from time to time.

I’ve been reading this thread for a while and I want to respond to that last comment. Demo does not wear a collar, nor do I. We have a relationship based on mutual respect and trust. As he has stated, I don’t like porn, he respects that. There are things that I do that he doesn’t like, so I have curbed that behavior. Neither of us have ‘changed’ for the other, it’s called compromise. A relationship is a union of two different people, and when they come together sometimes things have to be left behind. Immature, selfish people refuse to compromise. Neither Demo nor I are either.


Axy, it seems to me that got shit on quite badly by a woman in your past. I have searched through some of your posts and very very few are at all positive about women. I am sorry for you, but perhaps someday, when you are a big boy, you will understand that you have a very limited, twisted, cynical view about the opposite sex.

Seems like a few of you here have no concept of Human Psychology. Lets take a look at the premise- She’s taking away something he enjoy’s. Is he gonna be happy? NO. Why are some of you trying to prevent human nature? First, it is gentically coded that a man wants to procreate. This includes looking at as many hot women as possible and shooting as many loads as possible. Second- she has said they make her feel inferior and not good enough. Not good enough for what? She didn’t complain that there’s not enough sex did she? What actual problem is she having? Also, she dosen’t like him reading Bodybuilding magazines? Thats a joke. Serious self- issues. Either that, or she wants to be the magazine Nazi. Remember people, nothing has any meaning except the meaning you give the situation.

When were you in Victoria?? Where did you go, etc? Anyway that’s where I am. I’m going to school @UVic.

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Well Axy we do have a common interest: Giger. I use several of his Bio-Landscape series as backgrounds for my desktop. But he doesn’t seem to treat male or female imagery separately. I mean look as his original Alien series. Their heads are actually penises. And there is a lot of erotic works throughout his career. He handles sexuality as if we were all plugs and sockets. Never seen a ‘loving’ scene or a picture of ‘humanity’.

Steve, if you keep telling things the way they are, you will pretty soon be hated by some members of this board. God forbid that you say some woman has obvious personal issues. DD’s girl, it is funny how this “Axy is bashing women” premise is developing. Why do you think that if you tell a lie several times, it will become truth? It won’t, as long as I am here to dispell the bs.

It’s been awhile - like in 1991. Drove up to B.C., spent like 4-days and then caught the ferry down to Victoria. Beautiful. Checked out Butchard Gardens - at night. Wow. Hung out in the little Chinatown. Caught the ferry to Port Angeles. And drove home.

I do want to visit again! Ko and I are thinking about it. Seriously. Doin' a B.C. and Victoria trip. Where is your U? Close to downtown?

I have to say I am SOOO tired of the ‘men’s genetics force them to cheat, sleep around, watch porn, etc.’ (examples taken from all over the discussion board) That is such a bullshit, cop out answer that half the men on this board think gives them license to do anything. Your genetics may give you urges, but you choose to act on them. You’re not a gorilla, you have reasoning skills.

Aaaaawwwww, he'll be SO unhappy without his stroke mags. Poor baby. My heart bleeds. Relationships are about give and take, and he may need to give here. The way some of you guys are acting, she is asking him to cut off his hand or something. HELLO!!! IT'S PORN, GET OVER IT!

As for the porn, his girl friend may be uncomfortable for a LOT of reasons. If she feels he likes looking at fake women instead of her, if she feels she is being compared, or any of a million other reasons. Remember, we are only hearing his side of the story. As for the muscle mags, come on! Most of them show as much skin as Playboy! It's the exact same thing.

Lipo, nice to hear we have the same taste for fine art. :slight_smile: Btw. your last sentence - my point exactly! :-)))))))))))

I speak from experience. First it’s playboy, next it’s “why do you have to be so big” and “why do you have to go to the gym so much” or “why do you have to do X.” Many women feel the need to transform their boyfriend/husband into their vision of what he SHOULD be, based on her ideal. Every man needs to be very careful about marrying this type of woman, TC’s Atomic Dog, “Testosterone Vampirellas” is a must read for a man in this situation.