Ghost Rider Movie

Face Off was a spectacular movie when I first saw it. Con Air was damned good too but I dont know if that was an opinion of Cage or just the movie in general.

A still think they should have got the guy who played the newest Punisher to do Ghost Rider. Anyone but cage.

Ughh, yet another raked out chopper. How unique. I wonder if OCC made it from more catalog ordered parts.

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Ughh, yet another raked out chopper. How unique. I wonder if OCC made it from more catalog ordered parts.

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? So they should have made it a cartoon? In your opinion, what should the bike be designed as? It’s a motorcycle. You were expecting it to not look like one?

[quote]Neebone wrote:
Face Off was a spectacular movie when I first saw it. Con Air was damned good too but I dont know if that was an opinion of Cage or just the movie in general.

A still think they should have got the guy who played the newest Punisher to do Ghost Rider. Anyone but cage.[/quote]

i really liked face off, until everything after the scene in the church. i felt it should have ended there.

Transform into the Ghostrider,
A six-pack and a streetcar named Desire…

Sorry, I have nothing useful to add, just thought I’d play “name that lyric.”

Wu-Tang - shit cant remember the track name…

TRIUMPH!

Face/off was awful. They changed faces, not bodies and vocal chords also. Gone in 60 seconds was ok, and so was Con air, but that was despite Nick Cage, not because of him. He’s an overacting,whiney,unattractive, nasally voiced douche. He should not be getting big roles, and he should not be playing Johnny Blaze. Once again, I guess it pays to be Francis Ford Copolla’s nephew.

[quote]Neebone wrote:
TRIUMPH![/quote]

Good to see there’s some people who still know what good hip-hop is.

I’ve seen a couple of them perform that song during their solo acts at shows (pissed that I missed the one reunion concert earlier) and the crowd just went absolutely apeshit. GZA started doing it went I went to see him, but the crowd started yelling the lyrics so loud he just stopped and held the mic out in the crowd for the whole first verse.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Ughh, yet another raked out chopper. How unique. I wonder if OCC made it from more catalog ordered parts.

? So they should have made it a cartoon? In your opinion, what should the bike be designed as? It’s a motorcycle. You were expecting it to not look like one?[/quote]

I would not say i did not expect it to look like one, but maybe something a little more unique. It seems like today those style choppers are everwhere, with the crazy rake in the front, super wide back tire. Played out.

Jesse James or someone should have been commisioned to desighn something new that has not been seen.

If this bike was designed by Jesse, then my bad.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Have you seen Gone in 60 Seconds? I just don’t get the Cage hatred. Face Off was one of my favorite movies for quite a while. Granted, I haven’t seen EVERY movie he’s been in.[/quote]

I saw it, so what? Does that make him not an ugly douche? As far as your taste in movies, to each his own. I thought Face Off was typical high budget Hollywood garbage.

[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
Really? At first, I would say his character was quite toolish.

Prior to his incident, Johnny is portrayed as a real hothead — pun intended. He’s impatient, moody, and reckless. I don’t know, do any of those charcteristics fit with your definition of ‘tool’?[/quote]

No, they don’t. A wuss who gets pushed around, or someone who is extrememly stupid is a tool. The characteristics you listed, IMHO, would classify someone as an ‘asshole’.

Exactly, “settles down”, not “old guy who looks like he already washed down 4 valium with a fifth of Wild Turkey to begin with”.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Face/off was awful. They changed faces, not bodies and vocal chords also. Gone in 60 seconds was ok, and so was Con air, but that was despite Nick Cage, not because of him. He’s an overacting,whiney,unattractive, nasally voiced douche. He should not be getting big roles, and he should not be playing Johnny Blaze. Once again, I guess it pays to be Francis Ford Copolla’s nephew.[/quote]

My brother! Although, in Face Off, they did have that electronic doohickey that altered their voices so they’d sound like each other. As for everything else; spot on, my friend!

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Ughh, yet another raked out chopper. How unique. I wonder if OCC made it from more catalog ordered parts.

? So they should have made it a cartoon? In your opinion, what should the bike be designed as? It’s a motorcycle. You were expecting it to not look like one?

I would not say i did not expect it to look like one, but maybe something a little more unique. It seems like today those style choppers are everwhere, with the crazy rake in the front, super wide back tire. Played out.

Jesse James or someone should have been commisioned to desighn something new that has not been seen.

If this bike was designed by Jesse, then my bad. [/quote]

I personally like just about every “chopper show” that’s out right now. The creativity is off the charts. Regardless of what they did, it would still have to have two wheels, a seat and two handles. From that picture I posted, it looks like they did a great job as far as creativity. I haven’t seen one bike EVER that looked just like that.

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Have you seen Gone in 60 Seconds? I just don’t get the Cage hatred. Face Off was one of my favorite movies for quite a while. Granted, I haven’t seen EVERY movie he’s been in.

I saw it, so what? Does that make him not an ugly douche? As far as your taste in movies, to each his own. I thought Face Off was typical high budget Hollywood garbage.[/quote]

What is a “good movie” to you then? Some people should probably just avoid the movie theater altogether.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

What is a “good movie” to you then? [/quote]

A movie where I cannot predict the canned dialogue with stupid cliched quips the actors spew, and every plot twist 15-30 mintues before it happens.

Or be able to tell originality and style from reheated, tired plot lines and dialogue, and also try to pick what movies one watches carefully. This greatly improves my enjoyment of movies.

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Professor X wrote:

What is a “good movie” to you then?

A movie where I cannot predict the canned dialogue with stupid cliched quips the actors spew, and every plot twist 15-30 mintues before it happens.

Some people should probably just avoid the movie theater altogether.

Or be able to tell originality and style from reheated, tired plot lines and dialogue, and also try to pick what movies one watches carefully. This greatly improves my enjoyment of movies.

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Yeah, that was a whole lot of typing…but the question was, “what is a good movie to you?” What movie that wasn’t some major blockbuster or a usual favorite (like Gladiator or Braveheart) happens to be one you consider “great”?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What movie that wasn’t some major blockbuster or a usual favorite (like Gladiator or Braveheart) happens to be one you consider “great”? [/quote]

The Amazing Adventures of Mary Kate and Ashley?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Yeah, that was a whole lot of typing…but the question was, “what is a good movie to you?” [/quote]

And I answered it. Sorry it wasn’t long enough for you. Please post your required word count next time.

Ah, a new question! Or do you think this and your first question mean the same thing? (Just so you know, they don’t.)

Well, since you seem to like text; have at you, sir!

Since you must know, an under the radar movie I consider great is “The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind” with Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet. Not action, but that’s what comes to mind off the top of my head.

As far as action, I think a great movie was Highlander – JUST THE FIRST ONE! It was an original plot, and the Kurgan was, in my opinion, the most bad-ass movie villain ever. Why? Unlike what most modern action writers would have him do, he didn’t kill at every opportunity. He was one sick fuck, but he was smart and focused enough not to go around killing mortals for no reason.

Example: The hooker he was with. (“I’m Candy.” “Of course you are!”)

The next day the seedy hotel clerk tells him that Candy said he was kinky. He got his rocks off and that was it. Someone writing this story today would have had her dismembered and “there can be only one!” written in her blood on the wall (a photo of which, of course, would appear on the front page of the next day’s New York Times) as a message to Connor.

Another reason the Kurgan (and the movie) ruled: The scene in the church.

Priest: People are trying to pray. You’re disturbing them.

Kurgan: (Gesturing to crucifix) He cares for these mortals?

Priest: Of course he does. He died for our sins.

Kurgan: Heh, heh, heh… That will be his undoing!

A thought-provoking scenario (which are rare enough in action movies); how would an immortal, walking among us, view religion and its requisite afterlife? Even better, it utilizes subtle, yet effective dialogue to great effect. Top this off with a perfect casting choice of Clancy Brown, and you get what I call a great character in a great movie. Maybe you agree, maybe you don’t. Like I said; to each his own.

There. I know what I like/dislike and I know why I like/dislike it. Happy? Am I qualified to think Nicholas Cage sucks now? I do so crave your acceptance in this matter.

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Yeah, that was a whole lot of typing…but the question was, “what is a good movie to you?”

And I answered it. Sorry it wasn’t long enough for you. Please post your required word count next time.

What movie that wasn’t some major blockbuster or a usual favorite (like Gladiator or Braveheart) happens to be one you consider “great”?

Ah, a new question! Or do you think this and your first question mean the same thing? (Just so you know, they don’t.)

Well, since you seem to like text; have at you, sir!

Since you must know, an under the radar movie I consider great is “The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind” with Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet. Not action, but that’s what comes to mind off the top of my head.

As far as action, I think a great movie was Highlander – JUST THE FIRST ONE! It was an original plot, and the Kurgan was, in my opinion, the most bad-ass movie villain ever. Why? Unlike what most modern action writers would have him do, he didn’t kill at every opportunity. He was one sick fuck, but he was smart and focused enough not to go around killing mortals for no reason.

Example: The hooker he was with. (“I’m Candy.” “Of course you are!”)

The next day the seedy hotel clerk tells him that Candy said he was kinky. He got his rocks off and that was it. Someone writing this story today would have had her dismembered and “there can be only one!” written in her blood on the wall (a photo of which, of course, would appear on the front page of the next day’s New York Times) as a message to Connor.

Another reason the Kurgan (and the movie) ruled: The scene in the church.

Priest: People are trying to pray. You’re disturbing them.

Kurgan: (Gesturing to crucifix) He cares for these mortals?

Priest: Of course he does. He died for our sins.

Kurgan: Heh, heh, heh… That will be his undoing!

A thought-provoking scenario (which are rare enough in action movies); how would an immortal, walking among us, view religion and its requisite afterlife? Even better, it utilizes subtle, yet effective dialogue to great effect. Top this off with a perfect casting choice of Clancy Brown, and you get what I call a great character in a great movie. Maybe you agree, maybe you don’t. Like I said; to each his own.

There. I know what I like/dislike and I know why I like/dislike it. Happy? Am I qualified to think Nicholas Cage sucks now? I do so crave your acceptance in this matter.

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You get credit for mentioning The Highlander. What gets to me are people who claim nearly every movie sucks. These are the people who can’t sit through ANY movie without walking out claiming it sucked so bad. Lord of The Rings simply isn’t good enough and complaints abide at Crash or any other movie actually worth watching. We’ll just have to disagree on Cage. My guess is, the people who think he sucks have probably MOSTLY seen him in the movies I never would have seen in the first place. Peggy Sue got Married wasn’t exactly on my list of “must sees”.