So basically I’m wondering, is a ghd worth buying? Or, is just the natural ghr just as good? As of right now I have been just hooking my feet under something solid, lowering down slowly as I can, doing a light pushup and then exploding back up. It hits my hamstrings hard as can be, but obviously is doing nothing for my glutes/back. I’m just wondering if a real ghd is that much more effective.
Or, at 435/275/512 do I just need to get stronger using the barbell movements?
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps.
GHR and Reverse Hyper are two of the best purchases I have ever made for my training. Both well worth it, especially if you have injuries to work around.
I agree with both the above, but in the mean time, I like to use an ab wheel with my russian leg curls. I was doing them the exact way you described, but now with the ab wheel, I can get sets of 15-20, and really focus on my hams, pumping them up, like they were bicep’s, and I was doing curls, this supersetted with dimel’s is my favorits wrap up for a squat, or dead workout. I’d still save up for the GHR, 2cents
I’m really liking my GHD unit so far. Definitely get a well designed one
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
Here’s a pic along with my EFS 2x2 power rack and my redneck reverse hyper in the rack. lol[/quote]
Are you able to get full rom with that ghr both situp and extension? seems like it’d limit your rom if you wanted to go further down, especially on situps.
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
In regards to your friend’s knockoff ghr, could you not just add bands over your back/neck and the ground to make up for that difficulty? or, go slower?
[quote]lifter85 wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
Here’s a pic along with my EFS 2x2 power rack and my redneck reverse hyper in the rack. lol[/quote]
Are you able to get full rom with that ghr both situp and extension? seems like it’d limit your rom if you wanted to go further down, especially on situps.[/quote]
You are limited to the height of wherever you have the device. Obviously If it’s on the floor than no. Put it up on a bench and you have that ROM. You saw my Rev hyper. I often times put the GHR on the top of that. Height is from the floor to where ever I need it to be.
[quote]lifter85 wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
In regards to your friend’s knockoff ghr, could you not just add bands over your back/neck and the ground to make up for that difficulty? or, go slower?[/quote]
One COULD but don’t get in this situation in the first place. His GHR cost him $550. The GRH from ROGUE and sorinex are $600-$800. One could have bought a “real deal” GHR from EFS for $600 on their “old school” line. This fucking guy wouldn’t listen to me. In addition to the pad ange being off. The steel in the product is thin. The machine wobbles, the vinyl is thin and now coming off the pads. The adjustment knobs are all broken. My shit gets the same, if not more use and it looks like it came out of the box and the device is rock solid. There is more to this equation than price. EFS only sells quality stuff. Not to mention their contribution to the lifting community. Their customer service is out fucking standing. My buddy basically got told to fuck off with his brand. With EFS, you get MORE than you pay for.
EDIT – I used to train a bit at Brute Strength Gym in Norfolk VA when I lived there. There are some scary strong and big motherfuckers in that place. They have an EFS GHR. It gets more use by these behemoths and it is in great shape. I feel confident in saying that One would have to intentionally try to fuck up this machine with home use before it would give you issues.
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]lifter85 wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
In regards to your friend’s knockoff ghr, could you not just add bands over your back/neck and the ground to make up for that difficulty? or, go slower?[/quote]
One COULD but don’t get in this situation in the first place. His GHR cost him $550. The GRH from ROGUE and sorinex are $600-$800. One could have bought a “real deal” GHR from EFS for $600 on their “old school” line. This fucking guy wouldn’t listen to me. In addition to the pad ange being off. The steel in the product is thin. The machine wobbles, the vinyl is thin and now coming off the pads. The adjustment knobs are all broken. My shit gets the same, if not more use and it looks like it came out of the box and the device is rock solid. There is more to this equation than price. EFS only sells quality stuff. Not to mention their contribution to the lifting community. Their customer service is out fucking standing. My buddy basically got told to fuck off with his brand. With EFS, you get MORE than you pay for.
EDIT – I used to train a bit at Brute Strength Gym in Norfolk VA when I lived there. There are some scary strong and big motherfuckers in that place. They have an EFS GHR. It gets more use by these behemoths and it is in great shape. I feel confident in saying that One would have to intentionally try to fuck up this machine with home use before it would give you issues.
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good to know, thanks! would you recommend the rogue abram ghr? i have had my eye on that one.
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]lifter85 wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
In regards to your friend’s knockoff ghr, could you not just add bands over your back/neck and the ground to make up for that difficulty? or, go slower?[/quote]
One COULD but don’t get in this situation in the first place. His GHR cost him $550. The GRH from ROGUE and sorinex are $600-$800. One could have bought a “real deal” GHR from EFS for $600 on their “old school” line. This fucking guy wouldn’t listen to me. In addition to the pad ange being off. The steel in the product is thin. The machine wobbles, the vinyl is thin and now coming off the pads. The adjustment knobs are all broken. My shit gets the same, if not more use and it looks like it came out of the box and the device is rock solid. There is more to this equation than price. EFS only sells quality stuff. Not to mention their contribution to the lifting community. Their customer service is out fucking standing. My buddy basically got told to fuck off with his brand. With EFS, you get MORE than you pay for.
EDIT – I used to train a bit at Brute Strength Gym in Norfolk VA when I lived there. There are some scary strong and big motherfuckers in that place. They have an EFS GHR. It gets more use by these behemoths and it is in great shape. I feel confident in saying that One would have to intentionally try to fuck up this machine with home use before it would give you issues.
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agreed
basically you’re looking for:
angled foot plate
angled pads
big foot plate for toe drive
A lot of GHDs don’t have those features, as they’ve been popularized by Crossfitters using them for situps lol. EliteFTS/Williams, Edge Fitness, and Get Rx’d are the only companies that seem to fit the bill.
a little private gym that i go to, the owner shops around for a great deal and somehow has the patience to find them. he has had other GHR in the past and now has this one.
i love it. i have used the elite one as well and though they feel a bit different they both feel solid. i prefer the vulcan one myself but i dont think either would be a bad choice.
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
Definitely thinking about pulling the trigger on this for my garage. Seems like a quick and easy way to get some good PC work. Does anyone have any testaments to improved squat/deadlift strength since implementing in your program?
[quote]METAL VIPER wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
Definitely thinking about pulling the trigger on this for my garage. Seems like a quick and easy way to get some good PC work. Does anyone have any testaments to improved squat/deadlift strength since implementing in your program?
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It has not magically added “XXX” pounds to my lifts but yeah, as an assistance exercise done properly, it has worked well. I can say 100% it has helped my “in the hole” strength and my off the floor in the deadlift. If nothing else, it has corrected any muscle imbalances I had with the quads and hammies. Most folks claim “quad dominant” when they are simply hamstring weak. This device will correct that. Get one, you won’t regret it. If you’ve never used a GHR leave your ego somewhere else cause you will be humbled.
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]METAL VIPER wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
Definitely thinking about pulling the trigger on this for my garage. Seems like a quick and easy way to get some good PC work. Does anyone have any testaments to improved squat/deadlift strength since implementing in your program?
[/quote]
It has not magically added “XXX” pounds to my lifts but yeah, as an assistance exercise done properly, it has worked well. I can say 100% it has helped my “in the hole” strength and my off the floor in the deadlift. If nothing else, it has corrected any muscle imbalances I had with the quads and hammies. Most folks claim “quad dominant” when they are simply hamstring weak. This device will correct that. Get one, you won’t regret it. If you’ve never used a GHR leave your ego somewhere else cause you will be humbled.
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Appreciate the response. I’ve found that paused reps have been the missing piece to my out of the hole squat strength. I figure that adding in GHR’s can’t hurt with that and my off the floor strength with the deadlift, which is definitely my weakpoint. I had a GHR a year or so ago, however, it was the version with rotating pads, so I could do 30 reps without breaking a sweat. I fully expect to be humbled by a real GHR.
[quote]METAL VIPER wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]METAL VIPER wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
I have a Brian Schwab home GHR from EFS. It is far and above anything that you can do in the form of a natural glute ham raise. IMO it’s not even in the same ballpark. See the GHR hits the muscles at the insert and the origin at the same time as well as works the low back and glutes. Natural GHR hit one end and they do shit for your glutes and low back. Anyone who says otherwise has probably never used a proper GHR from EFS. EFS GHR are FAR superior to all other brands. The pad angle keeps the muscles tight the whole movement. A buddy of mine has a knock off brand. I can rep that shit all day. My GHR I’m DONE after a few sets of 8. A GHR really should be in everyones home gym or on the wish list at a minimum IMO. In addition to dong GHR one can do ab work on it and I’ve even done preacher curls with it using the pads. lol. It’s a great INVESTMENT.
hope this helps. [/quote]
Definitely thinking about pulling the trigger on this for my garage. Seems like a quick and easy way to get some good PC work. Does anyone have any testaments to improved squat/deadlift strength since implementing in your program?
[/quote]
It has not magically added “XXX” pounds to my lifts but yeah, as an assistance exercise done properly, it has worked well. I can say 100% it has helped my “in the hole” strength and my off the floor in the deadlift. If nothing else, it has corrected any muscle imbalances I had with the quads and hammies. Most folks claim “quad dominant” when they are simply hamstring weak. This device will correct that. Get one, you won’t regret it. If you’ve never used a GHR leave your ego somewhere else cause you will be humbled.
[/quote]
Appreciate the response. I’ve found that paused reps have been the missing piece to my out of the hole squat strength. I figure that adding in GHR’s can’t hurt with that and my off the floor strength with the deadlift, which is definitely my weakpoint. I had a GHR a year or so ago, however, it was the version with rotating pads, so I could do 30 reps without breaking a sweat. I fully expect to be humbled by a real GHR.[/quote]
yeah man, glad I could help.
Hey this may sound crazy but the best thing I can recall to help my out of the hole strength was Atlas stones. Something about straddling a 200 ball of concrete and lifting it up is fucking brutally fun. Now, not many people have access to atlas stone so the next best thing I’ve found is like the EFS stone trainer. To make one yourself get an old shityy oly bar and remove the sleeves. Then load it up with bumper plates OR the rubber coated plates. Then lie it on its side and lift. Almost like a real atlas stone. I tried it with regular steel plates and it’s just too slick for me to do them with any appreciable weights. You’ve prolly never heard of doing this so here’s a video… it’s fun but brutal. You’ll need a GOOD bar collar or your shit will explode when you set it down. lol
Chris 275 EliteFTS Stone Trainer Lift - YouTube
Ok, Now I feel like a real pu$$y…
The trigger hath been pulled. I’ve never purchased anything weight training related that I’ve regretted and I expect this to be no different. Hope it ships sooner than stated
[quote]METAL VIPER wrote:
The trigger hath been pulled. I’ve never purchased anything weight training related that I’ve regretted and I expect this to be no different. Hope it ships sooner than stated[/quote]
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/spo/4300806256.html
would i be a fool to pass this up? $350 for a rx’ed ghd used for only 7 months. looks in great condition, and is nearby.
