I want to know what the women look like who claim “average muscle mass” is what they want.
Most of the women in this country are fat as hell, don’t exercise and spend more time picking out what to wear than what goes into their mouths.
I am not looking for an “average woman”. If this is the desire of the average woman…then it is if no concern to me.
[quote]Nich wrote:
I was actually reading some of the forums and let me tell you,I am sad.
I am sad that my fellow man as dropped down to this level.
couple threads I rememberis
My quads burn when I do squats am I doing them wrong?
one of the responses was basicly I dont like the way they hurt my legs so I just dont do them.
and I shit you not he said " the squats are the only exersise that makes me grunt I never grunt when I work shoulders bis/tris.
I have always been a sporty looking guy with a nice upper body but I am at a new job sitting alot and my hips are getting fat.
how do I loose the fat in my buttocks and hips area so I can fit my jeans again without lifting weights and getting all big?
now I ask of you people,is this for real? I see thousands of posts like that on that site.
is the rest of the world really going to this.
are dudes really that fem now or is this just one of them funny sites where the rejects go?
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Yes, especially in high school.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
One asthetic goal I’ve heard (read) thrown around is to “look like you lift”. That is to say, walk around in clothes all day and having people at least think “there are muscles under those clothes”.
They can imagine the physique.
Having a scrawny ‘swimmers’ physique, to me, works against someone in clothes anyway. Skinny folk look lanky and frail.
The author of the article can postulate ‘what women want’ all he wants, but you line up dudes with muscle and some swimmy dudes, I’d put my money on muscle that they’d get more notice from the ladies.[/quote]
As an ex-competitive swimmer I take a little offense to equating swimming and “being scrawny so my abs look good”. It takes a lot more dedication and hard work than I have to compete on a national level in swimming.
They are building their body for a functional purpose. Just like I wouldn’t lump soccer players in with twigs in the gym that focus on one body part and grow way out of proportion just because soccer players are very leg dominant. Besides, in my experience, being built may get you in bed once, but without endurance keeps them coming back.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
Nich wrote:
I was actually reading some of the forums and let me tell you,I am sad.
I am sad that my fellow man as dropped down to this level.
couple threads I rememberis
My quads burn when I do squats am I doing them wrong?
one of the responses was basicly I dont like the way they hurt my legs so I just dont do them.
and I shit you not he said " the squats are the only exersise that makes me grunt I never grunt when I work shoulders bis/tris.
I have always been a sporty looking guy with a nice upper body but I am at a new job sitting alot and my hips are getting fat.
how do I loose the fat in my buttocks and hips area so I can fit my jeans again without lifting weights and getting all big?
now I ask of you people,is this for real? I see thousands of posts like that on that site.
is the rest of the world really going to this.
are dudes really that fem now or is this just one of them funny sites where the rejects go?
Yes, especially in high school.[/quote]
maybe I am the odd one out here,but in high school the ones I hung around were ones that drank beer/smoked weed,built cars to go as fast and be as low as they could,stood around in the back yard lifting as much as we could,eating anything in site ( semi-hot girls included)
so when did this happen
You know, I wouldn’t be so quick to judge the article so harshly. Once I did some bicep curls in the squat rack, next thing you know I’m waking up and I’m 350lbs @ 2% bodyfat. I had to do several V-Diets with no weights to get back down to a respectable 95lbs.
…and also to say that I have a similar back to the picture in the article, but bigger traps and delts.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I want to know what the women look like who claim “average muscle mass” is what they want.
Most of the women in this country are fat as hell, don’t exercise and spend more time picking out what to wear than what goes into their mouths.
I am not looking for an “average woman”. If this is the desire of the average woman…then it is if no concern to me.[/quote]
Quoted for truth!
I swear the author was trying to sabotage all the guys on that site so he would have less competition.
All the stuff he was saying is just so counter intuitive.
‘not an easy look to achieve’??? I mean I swear that pic is of a chick. The severe lack of arm size alone is just pathetic. And not even ask men could try and tell us that the big arm look is out. That would be like cosmo telling there female readers ‘don’t worry about wanting big tits, the small, prepubescent boob size is now in’
[quote]Nich wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
Nich wrote:
I was actually reading some of the forums and let me tell you,I am sad.
I am sad that my fellow man as dropped down to this level.
couple threads I rememberis
My quads burn when I do squats am I doing them wrong?
one of the responses was basicly I dont like the way they hurt my legs so I just dont do them.
and I shit you not he said " the squats are the only exersise that makes me grunt I never grunt when I work shoulders bis/tris.
I have always been a sporty looking guy with a nice upper body but I am at a new job sitting alot and my hips are getting fat.
how do I loose the fat in my buttocks and hips area so I can fit my jeans again without lifting weights and getting all big?
now I ask of you people,is this for real? I see thousands of posts like that on that site.
is the rest of the world really going to this.
are dudes really that fem now or is this just one of them funny sites where the rejects go?
Yes, especially in high school.
maybe I am the odd one out here,but in high school the ones I hung around were ones that drank beer/smoked weed,built cars to go as fast and be as low as they could,stood around in the back yard lifting as much as we could,eating anything in site ( semi-hot girls included)
so when did this happen
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welcome to teh internets n00b-z0r
“Gerard Butler and the cast of 300 probably used a routine similar to this, which was why their bodies looked like those of well-trained soldiers. They put on dense muscle while remaining lean and in good cardiovascular shape to make it through those long grueling battles.”
Probably? Now you’re just making shit up and slapping titles on it. Also the only “celebrity workout” I saw that really didn’t have a program in it was the Chris Chelios one. As if they asked what his workouts were really like, and then they said ‘oh shit that’s way too hard, we can’t tell people to do that’.
Getting cut without getting huge? That’s ballshit just from the suggestion of the headline! The guy (or was it written by a chick?)obviously thinks that conventional ways of getting cut also makes you huge! Seriously, this guy must be awesome, he is suggesting that he knows of a way of getiing huge and cut - at the same time? WOW!
Blatently written by someone who curls pink weights, but is a little scared that the next colour up will make him 20lbs too big (and cut).
p.s - when I used to have a swimmer’s physique at the age of 17, this naghty dutch chick grabbed me on the beach and started rubbing hot oil on me (true story lol) - I gotta stop lifting so heavy!
[quote]rsg wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The above picture is of Brendan Hansen, member of the 2008 USA Olympic Swim team. I think it takes a great deal of dedication to reach that level, but there is no way I would be on this site or waste this much energy on training and food intake if that was all my goal was physically.
I think that if it was someone’s goal to look like that physically, they wouldn’t have to do very much at all.[/quote]
Is he really that close to average in your opinion?
Wasn’t there someone on that site saying you could look like an olympic swimmer after a few months swimming? That wasnt credible.
I think most average men would have to do quite a bit to look like this let alone bigger. To have an article dissuading men from having ‘too much’ muscle when it takes work to get to a physique like the above (from the starting point of average) let alone continue on to being heavily muscled is, well, ludricous!
Agree with X’s comment questioning why someone would delve into BBing lifestyle in order not to look like one though!
[quote]gswork wrote:
Is he really that close to average in your opinion?
Wasn’t there someone on that site saying you could look like an olympic swimmer after a few months swimming? That wasnt credible.
I think most average men would have to do quite a bit to look like this let alone bigger. To have an article dissuading men from having ‘too much’ muscle when it takes work to get to a physique like the above (from the starting point of average) let alone continue on to being heavily muscled is, well, ludricous!
Agree with X’s comment questioning why someone would delve into BBing lifestyle in order not to look like one though![/quote]
I didn’t say he was that close to average (at least I didn’t mean to imply it) - but I was juding from the first photo. He looks like any other athletic type person and in my opinion anyone who wants that kind of look needs to do some form of physical activity and pay some attention to their diet.
The average adult male is a lazy bastard who does little-to-no physical activity, and lets no even mention diets. I can’t tell you how long it would take to look like him from swimming, but as an average skinny male, I can’t imagine more than 6 months spent in the gym - lifting weights - to attain such a physique.
On the other hand, developing an ability to his level in swimming - well that’s a whole other topic.
[quote]rsg wrote:
… but as an average skinny male, I can’t imagine more than 6 months spent in the gym - lifting weights - to attain such a physique.[/quote]
That would seem about right for getting from thin to reasonably athletic looking say +/- a few months for genetics/starting point.
So in the context of a dedicated effort to maximise muscle (over 10+years) you’re right. It isnt that much effort after all.
Still, my guess is that most of the men reading that article don’t understand what 6 months hard training actually is about.
What you are witnessing is the slow castration of America. The American male is slowly being reduced to a bunch of skinny, timid, eunuchs.
We have rampant amounts of estrogen in our environment, tv commercials constantly show males as stupid dweebs, incompetent and totally dependent on the female of the species.
Men used to be men. They used to chew a tenpenny nail and spit out barbed wire fence. Now if they get close to a nail, they run get a tetanus shot.
Women don’t prefer skinny guys with 6-paks, they prefer other women. They have no choice. The testosterone driven male is an endangered species.
My old man once said “the only problem with civilization is it allows the existence of weaklings and cowards.”
[quote]greystoke wrote:
What you are witnessing is the slow castration of America. The American male is slowly being reduced to a bunch of skinny, timid, eunuchs.
We have rampant amounts of estrogen in our environment, tv commercials constantly show males as stupid dweebs, incompetent and totally dependent on the female of the species.
Men used to be men. They used to chew a tenpenny nail and spit out barbed wire fence. Now if they get close to a nail, they run get a tetanus shot.
Women don’t prefer skinny guys with 6-paks, they prefer other women. They have no choice. The testosterone driven male is an endangered species.
My old man once said “the only problem with civilization is it allows the existence of weaklings and cowards.”[/quote]
QFT.
It’s not limited to America though, I see this kind of crap all over - guys that are like lapdogs to their girlfriends, and who act like spineless morons in public settings with the slightest bit of confrontation.
I now plainly mock the occasional guy with a popped up pink collared shirt or the moron wearing sunglasses in a nightclub.
There is a female swimmer from Brazil that is a lot bigger than quite a number of guys in T-Forums. She was going to swim in the olympics but was suspended for Steroid use. Google - Rebeca Gusmão
[quote]Player wrote:
There is a female swimmer from Brazil that is a lot bigger than quite a number of guys in T-Forums. She was going to swim in the olympics but was suspended for Steroid use. Google - Rebeca Gusmão[/quote]
Damn.
She was suspended for two years and almost arrested… she actually is accused of changing the blood test that would be studied.
[quote]rsg wrote:
I now plainly mock the occasional guy with a popped up pink collared shirt or the moron wearing sunglasses in a nightclub.[/quote]
Did someone call my name?
