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What do you think of the strategy of adaptation of body weight, that is to say that the body adapts to a reference weight at approximately 6 months?
I currently weigh 80 kilograms and have 13-14% BF
This strategy could be used to force the body to grow
It would be reasonable to push myself to get to 200lbs even if I gain fat, train hard with the goal of getting bigger and gain, gain 20lbs in 10-12 weeks and maintain that weight for 5 months and while there trying to be as strong as possible for that new weight

This is an experiment, contribute your opinions about it

I read a couple of articles talking about it but I don’t know anyone who has done it before

Thank you so much

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I don’t follow. You want to gain ~20 lbs over a few months to get stronger at this new weight compared to your current, lesser weight. Why do you see this as something that would be rare or as an experiment? It seems relatively common for folks to bulk up to a higher weight and gain strength in the process, but perhaps I’m missing something.

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Ok maybe I’m exaggerating to say that it was some kind of experiment, instead of a normal bulking phase.

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Or you just go the slower approach and when you get there maintain for a bit…

This kind of bulking just leads to regret and often patterns of “I’ll get rid of this extra fat after Christmas…actually I’ll do it in the summer, before the holiday, no… after the holiday, now my strengths going down too much - I was never interested in being lean anyway”.

Unless you are desperately trying to get your lifts up fast for a competition then it’s dumb.

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I believe it is real. After being in a specific weight range, your body will adapt to being within that weight range. I don’t know the time frame required, but I would say the longer, the better the adaptation.

This begs the question: Have been trying not to grow? It is difficult for me to see following a weight training program, and trying not to grow (unless you compete in a weight class that you want to stay within.)

I believe this is only remotely possible to accomplish if you are a beginner (and avail to very good training and diet strategy). Another possibility is a first time AAS user. And finally, a long layoff keeping you bodyfat relatively low and then restarting, where muscle memory assists.

Maybe 5 lean pounds is achievable in 3 months for an intermediate lifter.

This makes better sense. You don’t want to gain 20lbs where most of it is fat and then have to diet the excess fat off.

Then again I had a friend who felt he had to be doing something with his body weight. He said he was always gaining or losing. He had to do that to keep himself interested in training.

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Do you mean as in a body “set point”?

you can change this by changing your lifestyle to suit that result. It will take only as long as it takes you to adopt this lifestyle and for adaptation to reach homeostasis… no telling how long either of those things take.

Agree with what was said above. Gain slower, target 1lb/wk. Hold final weight for a month or two, then start leaning out.
^I don’t necessarily agree with holding higher BF% intentionally as the longer you keep fat on your body - the harder it is to lose… but some guys who are much bigger than I will bulk>maintain>cut>bulk.

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This is the training/diet model of a bodybuilding competitor.

The only question is how much is the “bulk” in percent body fat.

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I’ve heard 2 arguments and I don’t know where I land yet.

-Reddit bros: 10-15% cut/bulk parameters (works for natties)
-BIG dudes: 6-12% cut/bulk parameters (doesn’t work for natties)
*6% OR as lean as possible without doing a water cut

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I would say even this is aggressive for natties. I’ve never been below say 12%. I just cut from 215 to 198 and I’m still prob low teens best. 10% is really hard for natties if they want to maintain any sort of muscle mass unless they are one of the lucky genetic few.

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I ran some calculations of my estimated % body fat at maintain bulk weight and contest weight. I used the skin fold test, for what that is worth.

I never tested at my maintain bulk weight of 240lbs to 243lbs. But I do know that I competed at 218lbs at my best.
So, if we say I started at 240lbs, I therefore lost 22lbs to get to 218lbs (assuming all I lost was fat). When I was at, or very near 218lbs I tested at about 5.5%.
5.5% fat at 218lbs is 12lbs of fat.
Add the 12lbs of fat (at 218lbs) to the 22lbs that I lost from 240lbs to get to 218lbs, it totals 34lbs of fat that I had on my 240lb body. This calculates to 14.2%.

Therefore my “maintain bulk” was 14.2% body fat which I dropped to a “cut” 5.5% for the contest.

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Thank you all