[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Oh shit yeah, Kiefer Sutherland is Big Boss now, I was kind of sad that Hayter had left, but this sounds like it will fill his place really nicely.[/quote]
FUCKING AWESOME.
I wasn’t even planning on getting this game but now that they’ve revealed that Jack motherfucking Bauer is in there, I’ve totally changed my mind.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Oh shit yeah, Kiefer Sutherland is Big Boss now, I was kind of sad that Hayter had left, but this sounds like it will fill his place really nicely.[/quote]
FUCKING AWESOME.
I wasn’t even planning on getting this game but now that they’ve revealed that Jack motherfucking Bauer is in there, I’ve totally changed my mind.[/quote]
I wasn’t aware there were even people out there with a functioning PlayStation that weren’t planning on buying new Metal Gear Solids. It looks so good, I wonder how they’ll play off this early game helplessness with the prosthetic and just coming out of the coma. And of course the huge open world thing they’re spouting along with Ground Zeroes.
Kojima has also stated that he wants this to be his final Metal Gear game, so it’s either just going to be mind-blowingly good and he doesn’t want to jump the shark, or it’s going to fulfill all the gaps and grey areas we know about Big Boss and conclude the series in this fantastical jigsaw ending. Of course he’s said the same kind of things before, but maybe he really is serious this time, I’m not sure there’s much more new ground he can cover with an entire game.
I will be picking this up like nobody’s business, I also can’t wait for all the gimmicky “Diamond Dogs” merchandise I’ll be able to buy, because I’m a sucker for that kind of shit. Also I believe it’s semi-inspired trivia for Big Boss being a huge David Bowie fan, so that’s pretty cool too.
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Soooo…
If I understand this correctly, “The Last of Us” will only come out on the PS3?[/quote]
Well, seeing as it’s a game made by Naughty Dog, a Sony owned studio, and published by Sony Computer Entertainment America, yes, only on PS3.
Maybe in 5 or so years PC’s will be able to emulate PS3, so there’s always that if you are opposed to consoles or the PS3.[/quote]
They are going to release it for the PC sooner or later anyway.
They are just trying to get people to think that they make awesome games and if you do not buy a console you wait.
Which is probably true, and, by and large maybe the most elegant way of promoting your system.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
I wasn’t aware there were even people out there with a functioning PlayStation that weren’t planning on buying new Metal Gear Solids. It looks so good, I wonder how they’ll play off this early game helplessness with the prosthetic and just coming out of the coma. And of course the huge open world thing they’re spouting along with Ground Zeroes.
Kojima has also stated that he wants this to be his final Metal Gear game, so it’s either just going to be mind-blowingly good and he doesn’t want to jump the shark, or it’s going to fulfill all the gaps and grey areas we know about Big Boss and conclude the series in this fantastical jigsaw ending. Of course he’s said the same kind of things before, but maybe he really is serious this time, I’m not sure there’s much more new ground he can cover with an entire game.
I will be picking this up like nobody’s business, I also can’t wait for all the gimmicky “Diamond Dogs” merchandise I’ll be able to buy, because I’m a sucker for that kind of shit. Also I believe it’s semi-inspired trivia for Big Boss being a huge David Bowie fan, so that’s pretty cool too.
I’ve played MG1, 2, 3 (personally, one of the best of the series. I loved it so much I’ve played it over and over again after beating the game the first time) and MG4. However, my big passion has been Splinter Cell.
I saw MG5’s trailer, seen some of the gameplay. Everything looked tremendously good but not good enough to suck me abck in. Now that we’ve got the Kiefer MOTHERFUCKING Sutherland’s voice, I just can’t resist. I’m sold.
I read somewhere that Kojima hinted that Ground Zeroes is a prologue of MSG5. Nine years after that event, The Phantom Pain then starts. MGS5 is constructed with both the prologue and the main game.
I welcome the idea of an open world MGS. I think it’s fucking awesome. Environments changes make the game fresher and more exciting.
[quote]orion wrote:
They are going to release it for the PC sooner or later anyway.
They are just trying to get people to think that they make awesome games and if you do not buy a console you wait.
Which is probably true, and, by and large maybe the most elegant way of promoting your system.
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Just like the God of War, Killzone, Infamous and Uncharted series?
Some games are simply exclusive, no way around it. Others, like GTA, eventually reach PC. This is likely going to be PS3 exclusive just like the Uncharted games. Got to have some selling point.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m still not liking the Xbox One’s new policies surrounding used games and online connection. [/quote]
THIS!!! I believe this needs to be discussed more!! I cannot believe MS is doing this. To me it is complete BS. I play online so the 24 check-in isn’t huge deal but I am looking at it from a consumer’s perspective. Also, not being able to sell my old games unless the publisher says I can and they can also add a fee… That is nonsense. MS needs to get rid of these policies and just get back to gaming at its core. They have strayed way too far away from what made the XBOX 360 great.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
I wasn’t aware there were even people out there with a functioning PlayStation that weren’t planning on buying new Metal Gear Solids. It looks so good, I wonder how they’ll play off this early game helplessness with the prosthetic and just coming out of the coma. And of course the huge open world thing they’re spouting along with Ground Zeroes.
Kojima has also stated that he wants this to be his final Metal Gear game, so it’s either just going to be mind-blowingly good and he doesn’t want to jump the shark, or it’s going to fulfill all the gaps and grey areas we know about Big Boss and conclude the series in this fantastical jigsaw ending. Of course he’s said the same kind of things before, but maybe he really is serious this time, I’m not sure there’s much more new ground he can cover with an entire game.
I will be picking this up like nobody’s business, I also can’t wait for all the gimmicky “Diamond Dogs” merchandise I’ll be able to buy, because I’m a sucker for that kind of shit. Also I believe it’s semi-inspired trivia for Big Boss being a huge David Bowie fan, so that’s pretty cool too.
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I’ve played MG1, 2, 3 (personally, one of the best of the series. I loved it so much I’ve played it over and over again after beating the game the first time) and MG4. However, my big passion has been Splinter Cell.
I saw MG5’s trailer, seen some of the gameplay. Everything looked tremendously good but not good enough to suck me abck in. Now that we’ve got the Kiefer MOTHERFUCKING Sutherland’s voice, I just can’t resist. I’m sold.
I read somewhere that Kojima hinted that Ground Zeroes is a prologue of MSG5. Nine years after that event, The Phantom Pain then starts. MGS5 is constructed with both the prologue and the main game.
I welcome the idea of an open world MGS. I think it’s fucking awesome. Environments changes make the game fresher and more exciting.
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Yeah I think Snake Eater has to be a fan favourite, there was just too much brilliant shit that it brought to the table to not be. The distinctions between Sons Of Liberty and Snake Eater in gameplay are astounding, but in terms of characters (including the Cobra Unit especially), story, environment and innovation it trumped an already ground-breaking stealth/“spy” action game that preceded it, I adore MGS3. I also regard the original MGS as a personal favourite for nostalgia’s sake, but Snake Eater was off the charts. I’ve played all games for 100% completion up to Guns Of The Patriots, spending countless hours on each. And I never get bored of the fight with “The End”, at least if I make sure I don’t pull the cheater’s follow tactic. And to some extent the Crying Wolf battle without the smoke grenade exploit.
I loved Splinter Cell until the stealth component was disregarded in favour of action, I adore games that reward wise stealthy play and punish the run and gun mercilessly, SC1 and Chaos Theory were my fucking jam between time spent on Metal Gear titles. I enjoyed Conviction, but the lack of vulnerability in just bullet time slaughtering the room full of enemies is something I could never get over. I’m sure I’ll pick up Blacklist because it’s at least still a stealth game, but I kind of wish they’d stuck to formula a little more.
Yes, Ground Zeroes as far as I know is a length prologue to serve as an introduction for the much longer Phantom Pain, Kojima was first planning to release it as a separate disc in the waiting time between now and the Phantom Pain’s release, but I think they’ve since revoked that idea. Not entirely sure if it’s still a separate release or bundled in along with The Phantom Pain, I guess we’ll have to wait for another press release on that one. I think it’s probable that it will still be a separate title and will not be fully integrated into The Phantom Pain as a single stand-alone product, but he’ll have to release a statement saying that for sure, which might not come for some time unless it is separate and he plans to release it relatively early. But for what it’s worth he has expressed his interest mostly in keeping it as a separate entity, whatever form that takes.
He also feels like cutting most of the dialogue and length of his cutscenes, probably feels he can get away with that because of the motion capture, but maybe it’s to keep the gameplay at the forefront and not be overburdened with cutscenes too much. I can personally deal with a very lengthy cutscene section because I’m patient enough for it and I adore the story enough to want to delve into those kind of explanatory means (Cried into my pillow for twenty minutes when Big Boss died towards the end of MGS4), but I welcome the expression of motion capture and non-vocalised acting tasks to keep the gameplay close and around the corner.
Yes, I do believe The Phantom Pain begins with John waking from his coma in the hospital in 1984 (the location of which I am not sure, could be either civilian or military base, I would assume military base), with Ground Zeroes taking place during his mission in Cuba in '75 after the Peace Walker incident and the uprising of the XOF Unit into becoming a major hostile force against the Militaires Sans Frontieres.
I’m really going to enjoy the Open World, I’m sure the survival element will be brilliantly made due to John’s newly equipped basic prosthetic hook and the lack of (at least early-game if not almost completely) assistance from the military in his efforts to stop XOF and the story surrounding the creation of the Diamond Dogs. I wonder if they’ll take much of a route with optional missions and such.
I hear that a new trailer will be released on Wednesday, I will post it here when it is.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Yeah I think Snake Eater has to be a fan favourite, there was just too much brilliant shit that it brought to the table to not be. The distinctions between Sons Of Liberty and Snake Eater in gameplay are astounding, but in terms of characters (including the Cobra Unit especially), story, environment and innovation it trumped an already ground-breaking stealth/“spy” action game that preceded it, I adore MGS3. I also regard the original MGS as a personal favourite for nostalgia’s sake, but Snake Eater was off the charts. I’ve played all games for 100% completion up to Guns Of The Patriots, spending countless hours on each. And I never get bored of the fight with “The End”, at least if I make sure I don’t pull the cheater’s follow tactic. And to some extent the Crying Wolf battle without the smoke grenade exploit. [/quote]
Wow, well, here I thought I was pretty addicted to MSG series. I got nothing on you, lol. You’re hardcore.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
I loved Splinter Cell until the stealth component was disregarded in favour of action, I adore games that reward wise stealthy play and punish the run and gun mercilessly, SC1 and Chaos Theory were my fucking jam between time spent on Metal Gear titles. I enjoyed Conviction, but the lack of vulnerability in just bullet time slaughtering the room full of enemies is something I could never get over. I’m sure I’ll pick up Blacklist because it’s at least still a stealth game, but I kind of wish they’d stuck to formula a little more. [/quote]
Yeah, when they decided to go for the action route, my interest kinda faded. I’m crazy about action, don’t get me wrong. I used to hate slow paced games. I wanted to beat a game within a couple of days. I played games like Doom, Quake, Medal of Honor, Wolfenstein and when I discovered Splinter Cell, my gaming experience totally changed.
I really appreciate the ‘‘punishing’’ aspect of stealth games. I’ve learnt to be patient, to observe, to explore a little bit more. That’s actually helped with other games such as deus ex or Tomb Raider. How many times did I fling my controller or keyboard in frustration? Game rage. Lol. But I never gave up. Hahaha!
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Yes, Ground Zeroes as far as I know is a length prologue to serve as an introduction for the much longer Phantom Pain, Kojima was first planning to release it as a separate disc in the waiting time between now and the Phantom Pain’s release, but I think they’ve since revoked that idea. Not entirely sure if it’s still a separate release or bundled in along with The Phantom Pain, I guess we’ll have to wait for another press release on that one. I think it’s probable that it will still be a separate title and will not be fully integrated into The Phantom Pain as a single stand-alone product, but he’ll have to release a statement saying that for sure, which might not come for some time unless it is separate and he plans to release it relatively early. But for what it’s worth he has expressed his interest mostly in keeping it as a separate entity, whatever form that takes. [/quote]
Alrighty. I take it that it might be comes as some form of dlc, maybe?
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Yes, I do believe The Phantom Pain begins with John waking from his coma in the hospital in 1984 (the location of which I am not sure, could be either civilian or military base, I would assume military base), with Ground Zeroes taking place during his mission in Cuba in '75 after the Peace Walker incident and the uprising of the XOF Unit into becoming a major hostile force against the Militaires Sans Frontieres. [/quote]
Yeah, that’s what has been hinted.
I’m a bit confused though. I’ve seen some of the gameplay with Kiefer’s voice and I could swear, he wasn’t doing Snake’s voice but the other guy’s, at the beginning in the hospital room. Maybe I need to watch it again. That was confusing as fuck.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
I hear that a new trailer will be released on Wednesday, I will post it here when it is.[/quote]
Shall check it out. Hopefully should be fucking badass.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Wow, well, here I thought I was pretty addicted to MSG series. I got nothing on you, lol. You’re hardcore.[/quote]
Man you don’t even know, my brother had the first two Metal Gears (pre-solid series) on the Microsoft X2, and when he got tired of it he gave it to me when I was like five or six years old. Before the turn of the millennium I had beaten both the original Metal Gears and Metal Gear Solid a ridiculous amount of times.
I naturally preferred stealth games, even in my early youth when I was temperamental as shit. All started with Metal Gear and the story of Outer Haven (which I still swoon on the reference of in later games), ever since then I had a major hard-on for stealth, even if it was just an optional path. No doubt when The Last Of Us comes out I’ll be doing my best to play it the whole way through without any unnecessary alerts, even if the game wants to tell me otherwise. Oh man the trial and error, there are scenes in certain games that I’ve spent tens of hours finding the fastest, most efficient path through. I guarantee that if there were no area breaks in Metal Gear Solid games and the AI of each area kept running as normal, there wouldn’t be one body alert, not one. No cameras, no patrols, no dogs, I used to find the perfect way to dispose of guards in those games.
It’s possible, it might just become a store exclusive release or something if they are definitely going non-disc. Personally I’d have no problem with waiting and it being bundled in with The Phantom Pain box, but ironically Metal Gear Solid fans will get impatient as hell waiting for that, and I don’t think it’s likely to happen anyway. Might be nice to see it come early with some months left over for the release of The Phantom Pain, for the suspense and such. I don’t think it will become DLC because Kojima is adamant about treating it as a separate Metal Gear Solid game in itself, and it might be long enough to barely be considered a prologue, I’m sure if he could put it out as a respected release in the franchise he would.
It does sound like the same voice for both, with small tonal adjustments. Maybe Kojima is fucking with us all again and the gameplay escape scene is mostly hallucination, just a more subtle one. The guy leading him out of the hospital quotes Moby Dick’s “Call me Ishmael”. To me that seems like a clever way to insinuate that the other guy is a sort of narrator, or omniscient guide. Personally that leads me to believe that he is a hallucination and the result of John’s conscience, also with the reveal of the flaming whale, the Moby Dick reference might become more relevant. Maybe the whale represents some kind of mental battle or obsession held by John, who has taken on the metaphorical role of Captain Ahab and is being guided through this personal quest he finds himself taking on with the help of his conscience, “Ishmael”.
I don’t think it’s out of Kojima’s bounds to pull that kind of shit on us, especially early game where we have to adjust to these hallucinations in a reasonably clear and concise understanding of what path they run on, without being explained outright. Whether John defeats the “Flaming Whale” and whatever it supposedly stands for (maybe the fire inside John that thirsts for battle?) near the beginning or much further on will be more indicative of how much it really means, but that’s the way I see it going down. But as Ishmael is a mental representation of John in my theory, that may explain the voice.
Will be super badass, however I would expect it to be enigmatic as shit, maybe a reveal of The Boss as a hallucination if we’re lucky. At the very least it would make it easier for Kojima to integrate characters and their specific attributes, to come and go with some sense of explainable purpose and make known their advice for John in this particular period of his life.
Nerdgasm, this game looks fun as shit.
Is anyone playing State of Decay?
It’s a sand box style 3rd person zombie game. Sort of like Dead Island, if they made the game from the trailers instead of what they actually put out, and sold it for 1600 MS points/$20.00 online.
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So far I am liking it quite a bit. The autosave only/perma death is killing me though.
I haven’t been this pleasantly surprised since Faster Than Light (I expected to love X-COM).
Regards,
Robert A
$500 for Xbox One, damn…
Looks like E3 had some pretty hearty reveals under it’s belt this year, anybody got a favourite?
Star Wars Battlefront…my life has peaked.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Looks like E3 had some pretty hearty reveals under it’s belt this year, anybody got a favourite?[/quote]
Found my game!!! HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS AMAZING!!! UBISOFT IS ON FIRE!!!
This has to be the #1 game of E3.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Star Wars Battlefront…my life has peaked.
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Hopefully they do not mess it up, but I am excited!!!
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
Looks like E3 had some pretty hearty reveals under it’s belt this year, anybody got a favourite?[/quote]
Found my game!!! HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS AMAZING!!! UBISOFT IS ON FIRE!!!
This has to be the #1 game of E3.[/quote]
This does look incredibly good. Man, even between this and Watch Dogs, Ubisoft are going to dominate the early market for the next gen. I love stealthy games, and while neither really pulls into that element completely, I will take on both and thoroughly enjoy the shit out of them.
Just makes me want to buy a PS4 to play all the amazing games coming out.
My Twitter blew up with hilarious comments about the Sony conference and how the PS4 apparently shit all over the Xbox1.
[quote]red04 wrote:
My Twitter blew up with hilarious comments about the Sony conference and how the PS4 apparently shit all over the Xbox1.
Dude, Sony did shit all over Microsoft. The Xbox 1 is dead in the water. PS4 is cheaper, no used game policy and no 24 hour check-in. Microsoft royally fucked up. I have had an Xbox since the original, I also have had a PS2 and PS3. But I definitely have had a preference for Xbox. Not anymore, just got done pre ordering my PS4. I cannot wait! MGS4, Watch Dogs, Tom Clancy’s The Divide, Destiny, and whatever else is waiting for me!
I would love to know what all the Xbox 1 developers are saying. They have to be scared for their jobs.