[quote]apwsearch wrote:
superscience wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
superscience wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
superscience wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
superscience wrote:
The thing that annoys me most about it is, when somone tells me their lifts you alway have to ask their raw numbers.
Like somone will say i squatted 500, i think inside “no what can you really lift.”
Of all the posts on here, yours is the least credible.
You basically are a detractor of eveybody on here except yourself, and quite frankly, I cannot even figure out what you are/do. Not that I have spent much time on it because frankly I am disinterested.
As far as I am concerned, keep it to yourself, pal.
My opinions on geared lifting causes a lot of conflict because of my strong opinion against it.
I see no reasoning for it in the sport.
All it does is;
.Bring up arguments between raw vs gear
.Causes more danger to the lifter
.Creates a fairy tail sport
.It takes all the limelight away from raw lifting
.Its also a money making scam
So if you don’t like my strong opinions against it, don’t read my post on this topic.
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No, people like you bring up the arguments.
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In what way does it cause more danger. Please elaborate? I am assuming you are basing your strong opinions on your vast knowledge and experience in the sport. Tell me one experience you have had, personally, not that you heard about or saw on the internet. Just one will suffice.
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Fairy tail sport. That’s funny. Do you compete in anything of just come on here and bash everyone else? If anybody is living in a Fairy Tail, it is you. Coming on here with your shitty little opinions and providing no information on what you are striving towards that makes you so superior to everybody else.
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Powerlifting is not very glamorous. RAW represents a very small minority. Anybody getting into this sport to be in the limelight will be disillusioned long before the realities of gear set in.
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Scam? What, like a pyramid scheme? You obviously are not a business owner, because you are not even demonstrating a fundamental knowledge of the dynamics. Advances in gear are market driven, not the other way around. You sound like you are 17 years old. I will almost guarantee you are under 20.
For the most part I do ignore your crap but will state that to come on here bashing PL’s and BB’s, and holding Olympic lifters up as the Gold Standard, in my world, you better be one hell of an accomplished OL or have even a basic level of experience i nall three disciplines to bring an informed opinion.
Otherwise you are just a weenie hiding behind his monitor who needs an enema.
Since when does it matter if i compete in weightlifting or powerlifting, this topic is about geared powerlifting and thoughts towards it. Sure i could blabber on about stuff i do and what i have done etc but is it going to add anything to this argument?
I did not bring up this argument i just voiced a strong 1 sided opinion.
Are you that niave that you think geared powerlifting isn’t more dangerous. It allows people to lift weights more than their body can really lift did anyone see gene rychlak drop over 1000lbs on his chest it was so stupid looking i had to turn it off in disgust. A guy in my gym also dropped 160kg on his head because of the suit, lucky enough their was a 300lb spotter to catch it.
It is a fairy tale sport because people are sitting talking about these weights being lifted that cant really be lifted by the person alone. You could also call it a fake sport for that reason too.
And when did i ever bash bodybuilding or powerlifting, all im bashing here is geared powerlifting.
Why come out with stupid comments like i almost gaurantee your under 20, does this make you feel good about yourself?
Does it add anything to the argument apart from stupidity?
Oh, now you are the poor victim of all this, is that it?
Everybody reading this knows exactly what I am talking about in regard to your posts. That is, for some strange reaon, except you.
I asked you to elaborate about why gear makes the sport more dangerous, based on your experience. I asked that you not use an internet example (which you did) and then you mentioned some guy in your gym who dropped 350#'s on his head because of his “suit.” Sounds pretty contrived.
So, how about a little more cause and effect because I am assuming you are talking about a squat suit, and I am curious, unless he dumped, how the bar got over his head in the first place. If he dumped, there are a lot of reasons this could have occured and I am going to have difficulty attributing it entirely to the suit.
Actually, don’t bother because you will just dig yourself in deeper.
For what it is worth, I did not offer an opinion on the topic of gear and “danger”, so your comment on my niavete is out of context.
Here’s a hint for you. Experience in a discipline never limits a persons ability to comment, as you have just proven.
Rather, it limits their credibility.
Allow me to revisit a previous statment.
Of all the posts on here, yours is the least credible.
He dropped 160kg (his raw 2 rep max) on his head trying to bring it to his chest and since when did i say i was the victim.
Just because my opinion of geared powerlifting is completly against it doesn’t make it less credible.
Everything i said about geared lifting is what i believe.
Why would you assume i was talking about a squat suit when he was benching? :s
If i contrived the 160kg dropping on the guys head scenario, why would i say it was lucky there were a 300lb guy to spot him. Do you not think i would of said something like; it dropped on his head and left him with a serious head injury.
If itll make you happy ill even post you a link to the guy that spotted him if you want.
I really believe all the points i said about geared lifting. I even said it was a money making scam because of the first points. I am assuming you powerlift with gear so; what you should do (instead of bashing me and what i believe) is; Try to convince me in why gear is good for the sport.
.Tell me why it isn’t more dangerous.
.Tell me why it isn’t a sport with fairy tale lifts.
.Tell me why it is good for the sport.
OK dude.
I am actually starting to feel a pang of empathy, or something, for you because it is clear you are either trying really hard to miss the point, or just don’t get it.
- I was baiting you on the comment about the gear. Notice I used the term “suit” in “quotes”. (or otherwise referred to as quotation marks)
Here’s another tip for you, since I am in a giving mood.
If you are going to use an example to bolster your point and try to convince somebody you know your ass from an anthill, it is strongly advised to use correct terminology.
For example, referring to a bench shirt as a suit is inherently problematic for the general populace.
I knew what you meant, but chose to give you just enough rope to hang yourself. You actually exceeded my expectations. I guess thanks are in order.
For what it is worth, what you described almost never happens with a lifter who has experience in a shirt.
However, it probably happens in 95% of lifters when they take the approach, “can’t touch, put more on the bar.” As opposed to spending some time learning to touch.
Bottom line, not the shirt’s fault. Absolutely the lifter’s.
In fact, I could probably accurately describe what the lifter did, as the bar lowered, to contribute to the dump towards their head, but I would be wasting bandwidth because you would just continue to parallel argue and probably would not understand it anyway.
- I am convinced you really believe all the points you have raised about geared lifting.
I am also pretty convinced NAMBLA members really believe it’s OK to molest kids, but that doesn’t mean I find them credible.
- You have got to be fucking joking if you think I am going to couch any bullet points you throw my way.
It would be about like talking to a guy at the local oil change place about performance modifications for a Ferrari Maranello 575M.
He would probably have some opinions to offer, but who cares?
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I give up on this stupid argument, i give points to why its bad. People like you come on and bash people giving negative points, yet you yourself cant give reasons to why its good for the sport. So what you do instead is try and make somone look stupid, yet your only making yourself look stupid because you cant even back your own sport.
You have even lowered yourself to comparing me with NAMBLA, what the fuck. :s
Here’s a little image to what i described “never happens to an experience lifter.”
Look at the shape of this man (Gene Rychlak) attempting weights he couldn’t even imagine lifting.
