One thing to also realize that in Europe, many of you have quality public transportation options. Most of us in the USA, HAVE to drive because of no public transportation. When you HAVE to drive sometimes 50-60 miles a day, it adds up. I’d love to live in a place where I could take a bus or train to various destinations, or even be able to bike. Where I am biking = death?
Around here (Denver) it’s just gone up to about $3.09/gl. You can still find it cheaper around if you look though.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
One thing to also realize that in Europe, many of you have quality public transportation options. Most of us in the USA, HAVE to drive because of no public transportation. When you HAVE to drive sometimes 50-60 miles a day, it adds up. I’d love to live in a place where I could take a bus or train to various destinations, or even be able to bike. Where I am biking = death?[/quote]
You know thats an interesting point, but living in a huge country is always going to result in that.
Everyone wants to live in a spacious house and for that the suburbs keep springing up or cities keep expanding. Ultimately the distance becomes massive.
Also, unless one faces too much of a hassle, everyone prefers the comfort of having their own vehicle.
But the thing to note imo is that the car manufacturers will change only if they are forced to adapt.
[quote]Devil.Adi wrote:
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
One thing to also realize that in Europe, many of you have quality public transportation options. Most of us in the USA, HAVE to drive because of no public transportation. When you HAVE to drive sometimes 50-60 miles a day, it adds up. I’d love to live in a place where I could take a bus or train to various destinations, or even be able to bike. Where I am biking = death?[/quote]
You know thats an interesting point, but living in a huge country is always going to result in that.
Everyone wants to live in a spacious house and for that the suburbs keep springing up or cities keep expanding. Ultimately the distance becomes massive.
Also, unless one faces too much of a hassle, everyone prefers the comfort of having their own vehicle.
But the thing to note imo is that the car manufacturers will change only if they are forced to adapt. [/quote]
Be careful with your phrasing … the collectivists just got a hard on (for your forced to adapt phrase).
I kid I kid, but seriously, I agree. I believe there are some pretty difficult barriers to enter the personal vehicle market and be a viable option. Plus, for the electric/alternative fuel proponents, it’s one thing to have these vehicles, it’s another to find stations to refuel or charge up. Before any real market shift from petrol-based fuels to alternatives there need to be substantial locations to fuel up.
Mammoth Lakes REGULAR $4.73 per gallon and it is not even close to Memorial Day.
For any of you Nascar (non athletic sport created around rednecks) fans (dixies finest)
take into account that those left turning (not leaning) idiots get 3 miles to the gallon.
Which means that of the fourty cars starting the race, the drivers will go through 170 gallons
PER CAR or 6800 gallons of gas PER RACE. Ever sit down to figure out how much gas you go
through In a YEAR ? ? ?
Maybe if we concentraited more on human endeavor than engine powered mechanical stupidity
we would not be using our very limited natural resources so quickly…let the flogging begin ; )
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
I do not understand why gas is going up. What has happened to cause them to go up? A bunch of bullshit talk about “potential” disruptions? When the fuck is it going to be at $1.xx again? [/quote]
…Never
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Mammoth Lakes REGULAR $4.73 per gallon and it is not even close to Memorial Day.
For any of you Nascar (non athletic sport created around rednecks) fans (dixies finest)
take into account that those left turning (not leaning) idiots get 3 miles to the gallon.
Which means that of the fourty cars starting the race, the drivers will go through 170 gallons
PER CAR or 6800 gallons of gas PER RACE. Ever sit down to figure out how much gas you go
through In a YEAR ? ? ?
Maybe if we concentraited more on human endeavor than engine powered mechanical stupidity
we would not be using our very limited natural resources so quickly…let the flogging begin ; )[/quote]
But didn’t “human endeavor” create “engine powered mechanical stupidity”?
So, since “engine powered mechanical stupidity” isn’t within your acceptable realm of “human endeavor”, are you going to set “human endeavor” guidelines? Are you qualified to be able to reallocate “human endeavor” more efficiently than it already is being allocated?
yes, human endeavor did create epms. I should have qualified the human endeavor as " a pursuit using only that with which one was born with." Or maybe another way to phrase this would be under ones one bodily power.
I hope that this clarifies things for you. Thank you for your continued interest : )
^gotcha
Anyone hit that $5 mark yet? Inquiring lifters wanna know.
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
yes, human endeavor did create epms. I should have qualified the human endeavor as " a pursuit using only that with which one was born with." Or maybe another way to phrase this would be under ones one bodily power.
I hope that this clarifies things for you. Thank you for your continued interest : )[/quote]
Curious if you only consume products that were created by hand only within walking or mule train distance from your house? Do you possess any metals that were mined with epms? Is the frame of your house made of wood that was cut, skidded, and transported using epms? Do you really believe in what you wrote? Genuinely curious.
Fuck MPG’s, i love driving, i love my twin turbos and so im going to get mine while i still can.