Gaining One Pound a Week for a Year?

[quote]Tumbles wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Livefrom781 telling people that they should only expect 10lbs of muscle a year is really kind of ridiculous unless they are advanced. Limiting your expectations is a good way to limit your gains. You have admitted that your nutrition sucks, that could be why you can only gain 10lbs a year…

the sad thing is maybe 1 person in 100 out of lifters will even come close to putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year.

It’s not that bad… is it???
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I remember people from 3 years ago who used to lift at my old gym, I dropped back in to say hi. They were the same…

10lbs a year consistently is amazing gains for most people in the gym. The vets in my gym been lifting for forever, have taken drugs, and have little to nothing to show for it.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
people just terrible reading comprehension on this site.[/quote]

You accidentally half a sentence?

And 200 lbs on 6’5 Is actually above average. Amongst nonlifters that is.

[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
Tumbles wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Livefrom781 telling people that they should only expect 10lbs of muscle a year is really kind of ridiculous unless they are advanced. Limiting your expectations is a good way to limit your gains. You have admitted that your nutrition sucks, that could be why you can only gain 10lbs a year…

the sad thing is maybe 1 person in 100 out of lifters will even come close to putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year.

It’s not that bad… is it???

I remember people from 3 years ago who used to lift at my old gym, I dropped back in to say hi. They were the same…

10lbs a year consistently is amazing gains for most people in the gym. The vets in my gym been lifting for forever, have taken drugs, and have little to nothing to show for it.[/quote]

That sucks. Do you think that most people fail so miserably because they don’t train consistently, fail to understand the importance of nutrition or are just afraid to lose their abs?

[quote]shoo wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
Tumbles wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Livefrom781 telling people that they should only expect 10lbs of muscle a year is really kind of ridiculous unless they are advanced. Limiting your expectations is a good way to limit your gains. You have admitted that your nutrition sucks, that could be why you can only gain 10lbs a year…

the sad thing is maybe 1 person in 100 out of lifters will even come close to putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year.

It’s not that bad… is it???

I remember people from 3 years ago who used to lift at my old gym, I dropped back in to say hi. They were the same…

10lbs a year consistently is amazing gains for most people in the gym. The vets in my gym been lifting for forever, have taken drugs, and have little to nothing to show for it.

That sucks. Do you think that most people fail so miserably because they don’t train consistently, fail to understand the importance of nutrition or are just afraid to lose their abs?
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they dont understand training, and they wont put in the hard work even when they understand the training.

[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
shoo wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
Tumbles wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Livefrom781 telling people that they should only expect 10lbs of muscle a year is really kind of ridiculous unless they are advanced. Limiting your expectations is a good way to limit your gains. You have admitted that your nutrition sucks, that could be why you can only gain 10lbs a year…

the sad thing is maybe 1 person in 100 out of lifters will even come close to putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year.

It’s not that bad… is it???

I remember people from 3 years ago who used to lift at my old gym, I dropped back in to say hi. They were the same…

10lbs a year consistently is amazing gains for most people in the gym. The vets in my gym been lifting for forever, have taken drugs, and have little to nothing to show for it.

That sucks. Do you think that most people fail so miserably because they don’t train consistently, fail to understand the importance of nutrition or are just afraid to lose their abs?

they dont understand training, and they wont put in the hard work even when they understand the training.[/quote]

well, fuck them then, serves them right they’re all still fat and skinny :stuck_out_tongue:

[quote]shoo wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
people just terrible reading comprehension on this site.

You accidentally half a sentence?

And 200 lbs on 6’5 Is actually above average. Amongst nonlifters that is.[/quote]

yea sometimes i randomly leave out words when i type. idk why but its been happenign a lot lately, and when i talk too. doesnt have a thing to do with comprehension though.

6’5 200 is not above average you should be weighing that much without working out. youre probaly bigger than a lot of people because most people arent even over 6ft but proportionally that isnt saying a whole lot. to be truly impressive at that height i say you need to be at least 250-60lbs.

Der Candy and PX,

I actually got those numbers (0.25 to 0.5) from Lonnie Lowery’s and CT’s writings. I apologize that I came across as negative or what I like to refer to as “deprivation thinking” - that is - thinking that you can’t get more. You call it glass ceiling thinking.

I trust these two authors and perhaps I was guilty of taking their words as the gospel. But I think its somewhat accurate perhaps for intermediates, not beginners.

It sounds reasonable. Looking back on it, if I remember correctly, I did gain a lot of weight in my first year and half, some of it fat, but a lot of muscle too. So, it is possible that a beginner can gain some remarkable amount of muscle in their first year.

I personally do not set out to gain 0.25 to 0.5 lbs of muscle mass per week. My plan every week is to break records in all lifts, excluding some back-off weeks I incorporate into my routine.

[quote]honest wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
I have 18 inch arms and am very healthy, your point is ruined.

yes all wordly stats have been ruined because some guy says hes “healthy” also i was rather talking about muscle 18’ arms, not fat boy arms no offense, otherwise afew of my uncles would be classified as beastly lol

and professor i dont really know what you are disagreeing with, i assume you are talking about people towards the proffesional end because they would be some of the only people to gain 20lbs of lean muscle in months, i told you im not arguing whether its possible or not, so lets just leave it at this,

if u read one of my above posts i also dont find people who want to gain muscle just for the purpose of gaining muscle too smart, im one of the few people who would rather stay at a relatively lower weight until you are pretty much maxed in strength then go up, im not like 90% of people here wants to be 240,

you can put on 50lbs of lean muscle and it wouldnt mean shit if your weak excuse me for being different[/quote]

if ignorance is bliss, this guy must be in heaven

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if youre 6’5 200lbs what weight did you start at? [/quote]

I’m sorry about that, I’m 230 now.

Well I believe that with average genetics, no steroids, good dieting, supplements and good workouts you can hardly build more than 2-5 pounds of lean body mass a year, after your first few years anyway.

I also think that it’s a masterpiece of irony to see guys who have been using gear consistently for years tell natural lifters that they should gain more than 10 pounds of muscle a year.

But to answer the OP, I think your goal would leave you dissapointed because you already carry a good amount of fat. Maybe set the same goal over a longer period of time.

[quote]Kataklysm wrote:
Well I believe that with average genetics, no steroids, good dieting, supplements and good workouts you can hardly build more than 2-5 pounds of lean body mass a year, after your first few years anyway.

I also think that it’s a masterpiece of irony to see guys who have been using gear consistently for years tell natural lifters that they should gain more than 10 pounds of muscle a year.

But to answer the OP, I think your goal would leave you dissapointed because you already carry a good amount of fat. Maybe set the same goal over a longer period of time.[/quote]

The big guys on this forum are laughing at you right now.

. . . So, we have ClubRelationsfromthe781 backpedalin’ . . .

. . . random beginner lifters espousing the truths of possible weight gain . . .

I want to see some [not-male] titties.

I was thinking we had seen several posters who, while not on gear (or were not on at the time of gain), who were not in their first 2-3 years of lifting and eating, who had gained more than 10lbs. Apparently my reading comprehension sucks.

Good to know the gains I’ve made and the weight swings I’ve had didn’t happen. :slight_smile: Thanks for the heads up!

[quote]Kataklysm wrote:
Well I believe that with average genetics, no steroids, good dieting, supplements and good workouts you can hardly build more than 2-5 pounds of lean body mass a year, after your first few years anyway.

I also think that it’s a masterpiece of irony to see guys who have been using gear consistently for years tell natural lifters that they should gain more than 10 pounds of muscle a year.

But to answer the OP, I think your goal would leave you dissapointed because you already carry a good amount of fat. Maybe set the same goal over a longer period of time.[/quote]

dude… no.

[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
Kataklysm wrote:
Well I believe that with average genetics, no steroids, good dieting, supplements and good workouts you can hardly build more than 2-5 pounds of lean body mass a year, after your first few years anyway.

I also think that it’s a masterpiece of irony to see guys who have been using gear consistently for years tell natural lifters that they should gain more than 10 pounds of muscle a year.

But to answer the OP, I think your goal would leave you dissapointed because you already carry a good amount of fat. Maybe set the same goal over a longer period of time.

dude… no.

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Sad, isn’t it.
Jesus people, take up sewing or something… Really…

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Kataklysm wrote:
Well I believe that with average genetics, no steroids, good dieting, supplements and good workouts you can hardly build more than 2-5 pounds of lean body mass a year, after your first few years anyway.

I also think that it’s a masterpiece of irony to see guys who have been using gear consistently for years tell natural lifters that they should gain more than 10 pounds of muscle a year.

But to answer the OP, I think your goal would leave you dissapointed because you already carry a good amount of fat. Maybe set the same goal over a longer period of time.

The big guys on this forum are laughing at you right now.[/quote]

No shit :wink:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
Kataklysm wrote:
Well I believe that with average genetics, no steroids, good dieting, supplements and good workouts you can hardly build more than 2-5 pounds of lean body mass a year, after your first few years anyway.

I also think that it’s a masterpiece of irony to see guys who have been using gear consistently for years tell natural lifters that they should gain more than 10 pounds of muscle a year.

But to answer the OP, I think your goal would leave you dissapointed because you already carry a good amount of fat. Maybe set the same goal over a longer period of time.

dude… no.

Sad, isn’t it.
Jesus people, take up sewing or something… Really…

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It’s like they get off on making excuses for why they aren’t making progress.

For some, it is “pound for pound” strength…as if this is a great justification for why the 150lbs weakling is still 150lbs but at least they know how to do an exercise better now…after only 3 years. Guess what, if you have to pull out a calculator to prove to people how “relatively strong” you are, you aren’t that damn strong.

I want ABSOLUTE strength, not “relative strength”. Ants are amazing creatures, but they are still just moving dead insects and leaves.

For the rest, it is the assumption that anyone making more progress than “2-5lbs of muscle a year” is some genetic freak.

If you only gain 2lbs of muscle in a year, you had better already be pretty big and near the peak of what you can achieve.

I would expect an advanced bodybuilder to make the claim that he only gains 2lbs of muscle a year, not someone under 180lbs whether they are a beginner or not.

[quote]Vash wrote:
. . . So, we have ClubRelationsfromthe781 backpedalin’ . . .

. . . random beginner lifters espousing the truths of possible weight gain . . .

I want to see some [not-male] titties.

I was thinking we had seen several posters who, while not on gear (or were not on at the time of gain), who were not in their first 2-3 years of lifting and eating, who had gained more than 10lbs. Apparently my reading comprehension sucks.

Good to know the gains I’ve made and the weight swings I’ve had didn’t happen. :slight_smile: Thanks for the heads up![/quote]

yup, i was backpeddling by having to reiterate what i already said cause people dont reed good.

[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
Tumbles wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Livefrom781 telling people that they should only expect 10lbs of muscle a year is really kind of ridiculous unless they are advanced. Limiting your expectations is a good way to limit your gains. You have admitted that your nutrition sucks, that could be why you can only gain 10lbs a year…

the sad thing is maybe 1 person in 100 out of lifters will even come close to putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year.

It’s not that bad… is it???

I remember people from 3 years ago who used to lift at my old gym, I dropped back in to say hi. They were the same…

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Do you think this is because they are not following good program design parameters like deloading, changing exercises, changing set and rep ranges, etc? Or is it because they all are doing the right thing, they just can’t make much progress because it’s not possible?

My feeling is that they are all probably doing the very same thing they were three years ago and probably still getting the same results; none!

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
Tumbles wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Livefrom781 telling people that they should only expect 10lbs of muscle a year is really kind of ridiculous unless they are advanced. Limiting your expectations is a good way to limit your gains. You have admitted that your nutrition sucks, that could be why you can only gain 10lbs a year…

the sad thing is maybe 1 person in 100 out of lifters will even come close to putting on 10lbs of muscle in a year.

It’s not that bad… is it???

I remember people from 3 years ago who used to lift at my old gym, I dropped back in to say hi. They were the same…

Do you think this is because they are not following good program design parameters like deloading, changing exercises, changing set and rep ranges, etc? Or is it because they all are doing the right thing, they just can’t make much progress because it’s not possible?

My feeling is that they are all probably doing the very same thing they were three years ago and probably still getting the same results; none!

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well if you do the same weight, for the same reps, for the same sets, with the same exercises, your body will also stay the same.

The sure as hell arent going to bulk Il tell you that right now.

Its just failure on multiple levels. Evey workout for like the last two months I have found a way to make gains on evry exercise. Every workout for the lst two months they have found a way to make the same old shit they do seem hard.

I wouldnt lift if I didnt make gains or at least have something worth maintaining…

Mega newb I know exactly what you’re talking about. When I started at my gym I was around 140lbs and I’m up to about 210…and at least 90% of the people in there that I have been seeing since day one are still there almost every day, looking exactly the same as they did on day 1.