guys lets get back on track.
EATING BIG AND GETTING HYOOG
how can i increase my morning appetite. I’m been stuck at 4 whole eggs, banana, 2 slices pb 12 grain toast
every once in a while i try and up the eggs to 6 or add more bread but in the morning… I just cant do it. yet 2 hours later I’m beastly hungry and can pack down 2 or 3 large hamburgers. any tips? i wash everything down with water so i chew less and get more inside my belly.
how can i cram more eggs down my throat in the morning?
Why don’t you just add in a huge class of whole milk? That will bump up the calories alot without adding much extra volume to your stomach. My breakfast this morning was 3 whole eggs, 4 pieces turkey bacon, 2 pieces WW toaste, 8-10oz whole milk w/ 30g protein scoop. Goes down easy and its around 900-1000cals.
[quote]schultzie wrote:
guys lets get back on track.
EATING BIG AND GETTING HYOOG
how can i increase my morning appetite. I’m been stuck at 4 whole eggs, banana, 2 slices pb 12 grain toast
every once in a while i try and up the eggs to 6 or add more bread but in the morning… I just cant do it. yet 2 hours later I’m beastly hungry and can pack down 2 or 3 large hamburgers. any tips? i wash everything down with water so i chew less and get more inside my belly.
how can i cram more eggs down my throat in the morning?[/quote]
For one, the carbs are going to fill you up quick. Bread will absorb water and cause you to get less food down.
Try decreasing the bread and increasing the WHOLE eggs. I usually get down 8 (more than that when at my heaviest… am just maintaining right now) and then don’t feel hungry again for 3 hours.
Prof X whats your take on the breakfast nutrients? Is your breakfast mostly just fat/protein based, or do you try to get some carbs in with breakfast also? I’ve been thinking about cutting the toast out of my breakfast and adding more whole eggs, so your post caught my eye.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
Prof X whats your take on the breakfast nutrients? Is your breakfast mostly just fat/protein based, or do you try to get some carbs in with breakfast also? I’ve been thinking about cutting the toast out of my breakfast and adding more whole eggs, so your post caught my eye.[/quote]
This is not an attack on you, but some of you ask questions as if there is an “always yes” or “always no” answer. Things don’t work like that. If you see a pro bodybuilder eating a cheeseburger, that doesn’t mean they eat one daily. If someone writes that they eat 12 eggs for breakfast, they may be only while that person is trying to bulk up. They may not do the same when just maintaining their own body weight.
That means the answer to your question is “sometimes” and it depends on my goal. If I am trying to gain weight, yes carbs are thrown in, but you can bet that I wouldn’t have a bite in the mornings until I got the more calorie dense eggs down FIRST.
Get it?
I totally get it, I know what is eaten varies greatly depending on the current goal. I should have specified and added when trying to gain size, as that is definitely what I am working on. I know exactly what you mean with getting the eggs down first, I always make sure to eat the eggs first as they are the most important.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
I totally get it, I know what is eaten varies greatly depending on the current goal. I should have specified and added when trying to gain size, as that is definitely what I am working on. I know exactly what you mean with getting the eggs down first, I always make sure to eat the eggs first as they are the most important. [/quote]
Egg are great (especially whole…don’t throw away the yolk!) - but, if it’s appetite you’re wanting to stimulate then you won’t do that with eggs (trust me). Anything that’s fatty slows down the digestion and makes you feel satisfied for longer. Remember the Atkins diet? This is one reason why it was “successful”, it’s because it suppressed the appetite.
Getting in a large amount of calories in the morning stimulates the appetite, but it’s only natural for it to be sluggish initially. I’d say that the highest calorie meal should not be the breakfast, but rather the 2nd meal (after the metabolism has been “woken up”). If you want to stimulate you’re metabolism in the morning, you can do it via high calorie liquid foods (e.g. eggs and milk) as recomended or you can eat high cals via carbs. Sounds ridiculous since you can get more calories in via fat, but carbs help to speed up the metabolism. Studies and real life have proven this. I can guarantee you, that you will feel hungry 1 + 1/2 hours after eating a large tin+1/2 of rice pudding (900 cals), than if you were to eat 10 whole eggs (900 cals). Try it if you don’t believe me.
Your body has been in starvation upon wakening, and guess what’s the first thing it’s looking for? Energy! The best quick supply of energy is Carbs.
In the first half of the day, your body requires the most amount of energy (unless you work nights/evenings) and prefers carbs, therefore any carbs will mainly be used for energy. Then, in the evening, you can have your high fat, high protein meals. This is called macronutrient timing/insulin control.
The best time of day to eat high fat/protein (e.g. eggs) is later on in the day time when you start relaxing. It takes quite a lot of work for your digestive system to process it and during relaxation is the optimal time for digestion.
PS - Chew chewing gum too (after eggs), especially if you want to impress the ladies LOL.
Hi again.
Me and my brother now eat 9oz of beef and 50g of almonds for breakfast.
Not that diffucult to eat and provides ALOT of nutrients for a while.
Before that we used to eat 4 WHOLE omega 3 eggs, 50g of almonds, 2 scoops of whatever protein he would buy.
But we were reading up on breakfast and i think christian said that meat and almonds provide ALOT more energy than liquid food.
Hope that helps somewhat.
[quote]FutureKing wrote:
But we were reading up on breakfast and i think christian said that meat and almonds provide ALOT more energy than liquid food.
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Yeah, that’s because it stays in your system for longer, anything with more fibre does. This provides sustained energy, however, if it’s more calories per gram of food you’re after, you can’t beat liquid meals. You can easilly down 4000 cals in liquid form throughout the day and still have room for more. Also, the thermal effect (the energy required to digest it) is lower with liquid meals, therefore you get more calories per gram with it too.
I don’t push this too much because most people just won’t do it, but I gotta say the food processor can be the best friend of somebody having trouble getting calories. Just throw all the food you want to eat in there, ALL OF IT, and run it until easily consumed. Add some water or milk to make it drinkable if need be depending on the ingredients.
You can ingest A TON of calories of pre chewed solid food in no time. No chewing, no fuss, just quick nutrition. I do mean everything, meat, eggs, fish, veggies, nuts, pills, powders, oils everything. One step and you’re done “eating”. You may be surprised what you can get used to. Waking up and requiring 2 minutes for a giant first meal, assuming you make it the night before has some real advantages that just might outweigh taste for some guys.
its just me - Just want to clear this up. I have absolutely no problems with appetite. I can eat 6000+ cals a day and still get hunger paings throughout the day.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
I’m PRAYING/hoping that the hollow bones comment was a joke, lol.[/quote]
Maybe he’s Mr. Glass…
HAHAHA!
alright good advice, ill drop the toast and just have eggs.
i like to scarf down a banana asap when i wake up, it tends to kickstart me. then ill just eat like 8 whole eggs
LankyMofo---- You didn’t post a pic of your curling a sewing machine!!
That thread RULES!!!
“BodyQuilter”… LMFAO!
ok sento i really appreciate that ur not being hostile. i didn’t claim to be an expert in bulking the op was asking a general question, and i thought i’d reply i told him what worked FOR ME , what works for me might not work for others i was just offering and example i didn’t say it’s the only way to do it.
and i checked the thread later for advice that i can use but the shitheads here took it personal and deviated from the original subject and focused on me !!!
“what worked for me”??? What are you thinking? This is a thread titled “Gaining lean vs Bulking,” Do you honestly think you’ve had any sustained success doing either of those?
At best you may be able to claim a little success losing weight, but it would be a partial (somewhat shameful) success in that you have actually lost a LOT of muscle mass.
Now, you can scratch one up to “live and learn” but to then start talking like you know something about bulking makes you look like a complete fool.