Of those guys posted above, a few are actually very respectable sizes, others though, not so much, but in dieting down, the illusion is staggering.
One in paricular I know from around these parts is maybe 160 lbs on a good day, with no legs, tiny arms, all while juiced out of his mind. About half of the ‘top’ physique guys fall under this description. The other half could have been bodybuilders if they wanted (or a few actually competed as BBers previously). Do they have dedication? No doubt. Are the top IFBB physique guys placing at an NPC bodybuilding show? Aside from a very few standouts, I wouldn’t expect so.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
This is a top Men’s Physique Competitor, btw. Not easily achievable IMO. [/quote]
No, but achievable with hard work with is exactly what I said…[/quote]
You have a flawed view IMO.
If that physique is so easily attainable (even by someone with a brain tumor) then do you look like that or better? Why is there virtually no one posting on this entire site who looks like that?
Is it possible that there are some guys who compete in natty competitions as bodybuilders just to test their (natural) mettle before they start the juice and move on to physique/bodybuilding in the NPC and other untested competitions? Could be a dumb question but I was just wondering.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
Is it possible that there are some guys who compete in natty competitions as bodybuilders just to test their (natural) mettle before they start the juice and move on to physique/bodybuilding in the NPC and other untested competitions? Could be a dumb question but I was just wondering. [/quote]
That is a decent point. I have competed with 2 guys that are now IFBB Pros.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
Is it possible that there are some guys who compete in natty competitions as bodybuilders just to test their (natural) mettle before they start the juice and move on to physique/bodybuilding in the NPC and other untested competitions? Could be a dumb question but I was just wondering. [/quote]
That is a decent point. I have competed with 2 guys that are now IFBB Pros.[/quote]
I think a lot of people overlook the fact that the entire “Physique” division is still fairly new. There really weren’t any guys 5 or so years ago busting their ass in the gym each day with the specific goal of sporting board shorts onstage.
So what you’ve got very often, especially in the ‘first wave’ of NPC physique competitors, are a lot of guys who tried their hand at bodybuilding and for whatever reason, when presented with the newer criteria of MPD, made the switch. Now, based SOLELY on the old BBing contest pics of several NY/L.I. based Pro Physique guys, I can only presume that they didn’t fare too well with standard Bodybuilding judging criteria, and that it factored into assessing that they would do far better under a different set of standards.
As to whether they did so via natty or assisted means, I couldn’t even venture a guess. I know that if I was one of the very top Natural Pros in the world, winning pro title after pro title, and I was tempted to take the plunge with regard to PED usage, I certainly wouldn’t opt for Physique, I’d be full bore seeing how far I could go as a bodybuilder. There have been several fairly high profile former Wnbf Pros who after years of dominating Natty Pro contests finally made the decision, and did fairly (if not very) well as IFBB Pro bodybuilders.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
Is it possible that there are some guys who compete in natty competitions as bodybuilders just to test their (natural) mettle before they start the juice and move on to physique/bodybuilding in the NPC and other untested competitions? Could be a dumb question but I was just wondering. [/quote]
That is a decent point. I have competed with 2 guys that are now IFBB Pros.[/quote]
I think a lot of people overlook the fact that the entire “Physique” division is still fairly new. There really weren’t any guys 5 or so years ago busting their ass in the gym each day with the specific goal of sporting board shorts onstage.
So what you’ve got very often, especially in the ‘first wave’ of NPC physique competitors, are a lot of guys who tried their hand at bodybuilding and for whatever reason, when presented with the newer criteria of MPD, made the switch. Now, based SOLELY on the old BBing contest pics of several NY/L.I. based Pro Physique guys, I can only presume that they didn’t fare too well with standard Bodybuilding judging criteria, and that it factored into assessing that they would do far better under a different set of standards.
As to whether they did so via natty or assisted means, I couldn’t even venture a guess. I know that if I was one of the very top Natural Pros in the world, winning pro title after pro title, and I was tempted to take the plunge with regard to PED usage, I certainly wouldn’t opt for Physique, I’d be full bore seeing how far I could go as a bodybuilder. There have been several fairly high profile former Wnbf Pros who after years of dominating Natty Pro contests finally made the decision, and did fairly (if not very) well as IFBB Pro bodybuilders.
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Very good points. I was just thinking that there would be naturals (in bodybuilding) who jump into NPC/IFBB physique because they want to maybe use test and tren (along with other low level anabolics) without having to go as far into it as pretty much all of the IFBB and NPC bodybuilders for health/monetary/day to day life reasons.
^^seems like a fair assumption to me. I would also add their offseason look and difficulty of everyday life to the list of things they may not find appealing.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
Very good points. I was just thinking that there would be naturals (in bodybuilding) who jump into NPC/IFBB physique because they want to maybe use test and tren (along with other low level anabolics) without having to go as far into it as pretty much all of the IFBB and NPC bodybuilders for health/monetary/day to day life reasons. [/quote]
Oh I’m sure that there are some guys who are honestly concerned about their health. Still, from the few individuals I actually known in real life who compete in MPD, I can tell you that you’d be suprised how much some of the Physique guys actually use.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
Very good points. I was just thinking that there would be naturals (in bodybuilding) who jump into NPC/IFBB physique because they want to maybe use test and tren (along with other low level anabolics) without having to go as far into it as pretty much all of the IFBB and NPC bodybuilders for health/monetary/day to day life reasons. [/quote]
Oh I’m sure that there are some guys who are honestly concerned about their health. Still, from the few individuals I actually known in real life who compete in MPD, I can tell you that you’d be suprised how much some of the Physique guys actually use.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
Very good points. I was just thinking that there would be naturals (in bodybuilding) who jump into NPC/IFBB physique because they want to maybe use test and tren (along with other low level anabolics) without having to go as far into it as pretty much all of the IFBB and NPC bodybuilders for health/monetary/day to day life reasons. [/quote]
Oh I’m sure that there are some guys who are honestly concerned about their health. Still, from the few individuals I actually known in real life who compete in MPD, I can tell you that you’d be suprised how much some of the Physique guys actually use.
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Fill is in stu
You can leave out the names and feds of course.[/quote]
I would actually love to know this. Seeing how I have no experience I would love to hear what info you have Stu.
[quote]Aopocetx wrote:
I don’t get the allure of Men’s Physique. Anyone can get a body to compete there barring a brain tumor… and even then it’s probably possible! So what the f***?[/quote]
This just isn’t true.
The top Physique guys are insanely built. They diet down for a specific look, even sacrificing some muscle to attain it. To say that anyone would could get a body that would be competitive is disingenuous and not true.
If that was the case there would be tons of dudes stacked in every gym who could place in Men’s Physique. Hell, there would be even more guys on this site who could and there are VERY few.
I get it, this is the bodybuilding section and bashing physique is cool or whatever but your statement just isn’t true.[/quote]
When I say anyone, I mean anyone who puts in the work. In bodybuilding, you can put in the work and get a pretty damn good physique but it takes a special level of dedication to get to the top. Compare the top people in men’s physique and then pro bodybuilding… which one do you think takes more work and dedication? The sheer level of training and diet in pro bodybuilding is way above men’s physique in my opinion.
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what is this bullshit? 98% of people dont even have the genetics to look like top physique competitors… so no not anyone can achieve it with just hard work.
what makes IFBB pros diet and training plans so much more intense than physique competitors?
because i can tell you now that the main difference between the two isnt diet or training its simply the amount of drugs being used.
