Furious Log - 2nd Cycle

Pharma / TRT
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Some slight improvements on the stats…need to keep it going.

I am going to set some goals for areas that I think need work. Goal is in brackets. Will require a slight tweak to the plan.

Neck (17") - not much I can do about this other than drop some fat. I would like to have my shirts button up to the top again.

Shoulders (56") - I Would just like more definition in the shoulders so that I can see the muscle seperations between the front, middle, and rear delts clearly and hopefully by the end some striations. Going to add some more variations to the shoulder work on chest and back days, the rest should happen as fat decreases.

Chest (46") - the measurement is good but still carrying too much fat, needs to be more solid muscle. This should happen with time as well.

Arms (18") - My arms are pretty decent but my triceps are lagging in terms of size and definition and my biceps have gotten a little smoothed out (I want viens and visible muscle seperations). This is pretty agressive but I think a makeable goal as long as my triceps come along. I may have trouble getting my arms into my suits at this size though. Will need to make arms a focus on days when not doing chest or back.

Waist (34") - I have a long way to go at 39" but I am sure this is well within reach. This is maybe the most agressive target. I am going to start adding some core work (uhhh) as this has always been a lagging area and I can think of no better time to bring it up to speed. I think I will make one day a week for arms and core work.

Hips (42") - as most of the fat comes off my waist I assume this will come down pretty quick. More leg work should help as well.

Legs (28") - work on adding size and definition to quads and hammy’s. They are currently a little soft but improving from the tues/thurs cardio. Some simple weight work added into upper body days on mon and wed should be enough. Need to wait until recovery improves a bit though so as to not take away from the cardio days.

Calves (18") - just need to add size to the calves. They are coming along well so far. This is an agressive target so I am going to throw this into the arms and core day so that they get the proper attention.

So the new split will be like this:

Mo: Upper body (back focus), hammies
Tu: cardio
We: Upper body (chest focus), quads
Th: cardio
Fr: Off
Sa: Arms, core, calves
Su: Off

Alright. BREAK.

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Although there’s no secret other than pick good parents for calves. I’ve had my best grow from training them 3-5 times per week. If you’re on cycle you should be able to handle that.

One workout I one one leg standing calf raises, the next standing calf raises and the next standing calf raises with lots of band tension.

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good to see things comming a long for you.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
Although there’s no secret other than pick good parents for calves. I’ve had my best grow from training them 3-5 times per week. If you’re on cycle you should be able to handle that.

One workout I one one leg standing calf raises, the next standing calf raises and the next standing calf raises with lots of band tension.[/quote]

My genetics are ok but I am pretty tall so even at 16" they look small.

Ok, Will tweak the plan again to work calves along with each leg day as well. They are getting a pretty good workout during the cardio days (cardio is mostly short sprints with lots of direction changes). That should give me 3 days with weighted raises and 2 days of running work.

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[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
good to see things comming a long for you.[/quote]

Ya, the progress is starting to come along. The cycle is just getting started though so I have a long way to go still.

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
sapasion wrote:
Although there’s no secret other than pick good parents for calves. I’ve had my best grow from training them 3-5 times per week. If you’re on cycle you should be able to handle that.

One workout I one one leg standing calf raises, the next standing calf raises and the next standing calf raises with lots of band tension.

My genetics are ok but I am pretty tall so even at 16" they look small.

Ok, Will tweak the plan again to work calves along with each leg day as well. They are getting a pretty good workout during the cardio days (cardio is mostly short sprints with lots of direction changes). That should give me 3 days with weighted raises and 2 days of running work. [/quote]

I find calves need heavy, heavy loads to really grow. Sprinting does nothing for hypertrophy.

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I don’t have a whole lot in my gym unfortunately (def no calf raise machine). I guess I can use the leg press machine for heavy loads.

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I don’t have a whole lot in my gym unfortunately (def no calf raise machine). I guess I can use the leg press machine for heavy loads.[/quote]

Try setting the leg press machine so the stops are where your legs are extended. Then lift the weight as if you were doing calf raise with both legs, lower with one leg.

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[quote]sharetrader wrote:
FuriousGeorge wrote:
I don’t have a whole lot in my gym unfortunately (def no calf raise machine). I guess I can use the leg press machine for heavy loads.

Try setting the leg press machine so the stops are where your legs are extended. Then lift the weight as if you were doing calf raise with both legs, lower with one leg.[/quote]

That’s a good idea, i’ll give it a try

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
Although there’s no secret other than pick good parents for calves. I’ve had my best grow from training them 3-5 times per week. If you’re on cycle you should be able to handle that.

One workout I one one leg standing calf raises, the next standing calf raises and the next standing calf raises with lots of band tension.[/quote]

I second the motion…
K.

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Day 22
Weight 243lbs
Neck - 17.25"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 45"
Arm - 16.75"
Waist - 38.5"
Hips - 45"
Leg - 27"
Calves - 16"

Starting to feel some strength increase in the gym.

Viens in my biceps have come back. Starting to notice some small changes in muscle definition but not much so far. My chest is def looking less flabby which accounts for the decrease in size.

Cardio is really difficult right now because of the extra weight and water retention.

Knees are hurting a bit from the cardio/sprints but they are ok for now.

My calves are fucking killing me so I am doing something to them…hopefully growing them.

Goal from here is to keep the weight up around 240lbs but lean out and gain muscle mass to replace the water and fat.

I am now finished the left over primo and have tapered the OT dose down to 10mg/d just in the mornings, I will be dropping it completely today.

From here on out it is going to be just TestE, EQ, and Masteron at equal doses of 400mg/week.

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Day 25
Weight 245lbs
Neck - 17"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 44.5"
arm - 16.75"
waist - 39"…fuck, I thought this number was going to be lower
hips - 44.5"
leg - 27.5"
calf - 16.5"

Notes:

just checked my BP and it is a soaring 172/68…not good. I really need to bring this down fast or this cycle is over. I am cutting out drugs and alcohol as of today. this is all the excuse I needed.

this cutting cycle is starting to seem a lot like a bulking cycle

I am starting to notice some improvement in the target areas. calves are coming along finally. Heavy sets with the leg press machine were a good idea. Was doing the stack on the leg press with short explosive movements for the top and bottom half of the range seperately (foot above and below 90 degrees to the leg) but I snapped the cable on the machine and now I have no leg press or calf raise machine. oops.

I am looking into laser hair removal so that hopefully by the time I am jacked I will also be hairless. It is really expensive though.

I have added HOT-ROX (Max Strength, not Extreme), Carbolin 19, ZMA, and Flameout to the daily routine.

Current supplement schedule is as follows:

Test, Mast, EQ - 150mg each E3D
Nolva - 20mg/d
Carbolin 19 - 4 caps/d
HOT-ROX - 2 caps/d
Flameout - 4 caps/d
Multivit/Multimineral pack - 1 per day
Joint support - 1 per day
ZMA - 3 caps before bed
Surge - 1 serving pre and post workout
Whey - morning or mid afternoon shake

Yes, I realize I am a walking Biotest warehouse.

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Ok these last few days have been kind of a step in the wrong direction (or at least sideways).

There has been a bit of improvement but not very much. I think eliminating the Dbol accounted for most of the changes. I also missed a few workouts and didn’t eat that well because of travel with work. These are very poor excuses and I am not that impressed with myself.

Day 29 (4 weeks down)

Weight 239lbs
(-6 friggin lbs! but I feel much better and a lot less bloated)

Neck - 17.25"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 44.5"
Arm: 16.75"
Waist: 38.5"
Hips: 44"
Leg: 27"
Calf: 16"

I lost some size off the legs and calves which sucks but it looks like body fat has accounted for at least some of the weight loss.

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Day 41

Weight 242lbs

Neck - 17.25"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 44.5"
Arm: 17"
Waist: 39"
Hips: 44.5"
Leg: 27.25"
Calf: 16"

Well very few changes to report. Arms are looking bigger but that is pretty much it.

Gained back 3 pounds but I did it while on vacation (sitting on the beach) so it is not something to pat myself on the back about.

besides a few jogs in the sand and only one decent trip to the gym I am pretty happy with simply not losing gains.

Diet was very poor and I drank beer pretty steady because I was with family and that’s kinda what we do. I am not exactly a raging alcoholic but I have realised not drinking is gonna be harder than I thought. I am trying again though.

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Yo furious, I’m not being an asshole here, but the dosages you are reporting and the results you have listed is EXTERMELY disappointing. Bro, I have 18+ inch biceps and calves, and neck is 17 1/2, and although we are each different genetically, the amount of gear I am using is WAY less than you. I am nowhere near genetically gifted, so I’m not speaking from a natural! But damn, dog, 41 days and your gains are comparable to a natural BBer. Hit it hard, and show us some progress! If you’re gonna hammer your liver with this cycle, at least produce some gains!!!

[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
Day 41

Weight 242lbs

Neck - 17.25"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 44.5"
Arm: 17"
Waist: 39"
Hips: 44.5"
Leg: 27.25"
Calf: 16"

Well very few changes to report. Arms are looking bigger but that is pretty much it.

Gained back 3 pounds but I did it while on vacation (sitting on the beach) so it is not something to pat myself on the back about.

besides a few jogs in the sand and only one decent trip to the gym I am pretty happy with simply not losing gains.

Diet was very poor and I drank beer pretty steady because I was with family and that’s kinda what we do. I am not exactly a raging alcoholic but I have realised not drinking is gonna be harder than I thought. I am trying again though.[/quote]

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:

just checked my BP and it is a soaring 172/68…not good. I really need to bring this down fast or this cycle is over. I am cutting out drugs and alcohol as of today. this is all the excuse I needed.

[/quote]

According to Author L Rea, having a higher systolic BP than normal is par for the course for bodybuilders. He says that large guys develop larger hearts to pump the blood round the extra muscle, larger hearts pump harder, hence higher BP.

Given that your diastolic is 68, the high systolic is not as much of a worry as it might be. Though 172 is pretty high …

Cutting out the drugs and alcohol is a good idea regardless.

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Ya, no offence taken. I was wondering when I would start getting heckled. it has been a little dissapointing so far. I was thinking that myself. results haven’t been anywhere near what I am after.

Excuse 1
I have been running a little less gear than what was posted (I was trying to keep to 300mg/w each Test/EQ/Mast…900mg total/w and then bump that up if needed). I am just now increasing the doses up a little more to 450mg/w for each but I don’t think that is the real problem.

Excuse 2
The problem is my training and diet has been off which I am trying to correct now that I am back from vacation. Looking at my diet I haven’t been eating enough protien or cals and my workouts have been pretty half assed and I have missed far to many workouts.

Excuse 3
I am fairly limited as to the equipment I have (my gym is the one in my condo…it sucks but it’s free so I have been trying to stick it out). I broke the cable on the leg press 2 weeks ago and they still haven’t fixed it (which also means I can’t do calves). there is no squat rack, barbells, or plates. The biggest dumbells thay have here are 60lbs. I am prob going to go buy some heavier weights and just leave them up there.

My other option is to just go and join a real gym but typical cost in the city is $100+/mo.

What I really need to do is can the fuckin excuses, man up, and get er done.

[quote]Shamus, A-holes! wrote:
Yo furious, I’m not being an asshole here, but the dosages you are reporting and the results you have listed is EXTERMELY disappointing. Bro, I have 18+ inch biceps and calves, and neck is 17 1/2, and although we are each different genetically, the amount of gear I am using is WAY less than you. I am nowhere near genetically gifted, so I’m not speaking from a natural! But damn, dog, 41 days and your gains are comparable to a natural BBer. Hit it hard, and show us some progress! If you’re gonna hammer your liver with this cycle, at least produce some gains!!!

FuriousGeorge wrote:
Day 41

Weight 242lbs

Neck - 17.25"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 44.5"
Arm: 17"
Waist: 39"
Hips: 44.5"
Leg: 27.25"
Calf: 16"

Well very few changes to report. Arms are looking bigger but that is pretty much it.

Gained back 3 pounds but I did it while on vacation (sitting on the beach) so it is not something to pat myself on the back about.

besides a few jogs in the sand and only one decent trip to the gym I am pretty happy with simply not losing gains.

Diet was very poor and I drank beer pretty steady because I was with family and that’s kinda what we do. I am not exactly a raging alcoholic but I have realised not drinking is gonna be harder than I thought. I am trying again though.

[/quote]

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:

What I really need to do is can the fuckin excuses, man up, and get er done.

[/quote]

Well stated. It shows that without proper diet and training gear alone doesn’t do much. Yours is a good case of what gear can do with shall we call it moderate training.

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the reason i am posting this log is

  1. to keep myself on track
  2. to help other guys by letting them see the mistakes and changes I am making so they know how to set up their cycles differently.

Some more reflecting on the state of this cycle:

My appetite has been way down since I started the HOT-ROX and it is making me feel like my heart is beating really hard so I am cutting it out.

My muscles have been tight/hard as crap which was the goal but I think it is making recovery more difficult and making me cramp up so I am going to up the test more instead of increasing the masteron. I am also just not feeling the kick/mood elevation of the test so I am going to see if a higher dose does the trick.

I have made a switch to the gear doses accordingly to see if I like this will give the right mix.

Test e - 200mg 3x/w (600mg/w total)
Mast - 100mg 3x/w (300mg/w total)
EQ - 150mg 3x/w (450mg/w total)

I have been running the nolva at 20mg a day and will keep doing that.

I am on my way tonight to pick up some heavier dumbells to leave in the gym.

Hopefully they will fix the leg press soon.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
Well stated. It shows that without proper diet and training gear alone doesn’t do much. Yours is a good case of what gear can do with shall we call it moderate training.[/quote]

Ya, I’m starting to get that.