Frustrated: Volume, Diet & Metabolic Change

[quote]mcl wrote:
stockzy wrote:
I relax with reading, video games, going out with my girlfriend, knitting/crocheting (hey, don’t knock it!), and sometimes long, hot baths.

I like long walks on the beach, holding hands… wait. Wrong forum. :slight_smile:

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Haha! No drama’s…

Coffee does dramatically increase cortisol (can be as much as 30% per coffee) especially on an empty stomach…

By your calculations 60% of daily calories in protein (11 x 230lb) would be 380g per day.
But your only getting 188g from real food ( 12 oz steak (73g) and 18oz tuna(110g), 5g from oats, not even gonna count half an egg! ) and the rest from supps, 66g from Grow! Whey and there’s no protein in Metabolic Drive is there? That’s only 254g . So your under eating by your own calculations.

If you got 260g protein from flesh that would be 1180g flesh per day (295g per meal over 4 meals, 60g from an 8 egg omelette in the morning and 66g from Grow! Whey post workout then you’d hit 386g. Eat as many veggies and salad as you want.

Whaddya reckon?

[quote]stockzy wrote:
mcl wrote:
stockzy wrote:
I relax with reading, video games, going out with my girlfriend, knitting/crocheting (hey, don’t knock it!), and sometimes long, hot baths.

I like long walks on the beach, holding hands… wait. Wrong forum. :slight_smile:

Haha! No drama’s…

Coffee does dramatically increase cortisol (can be as much as 30% per coffee) especially on an empty stomach…

By your calculations 60% of daily calories in protein (11 x 230lb) would be 380g per day.
But your only getting 188g from real food ( 12 oz steak (73g) and 18oz tuna(110g), 5g from oats, not even gonna count half an egg! ) and the rest from supps, 66g from Grow! Whey and there’s no protein in Metabolic Drive is there? That’s only 254g . So your under eating by your own calculations.

If you got 260g protein from flesh that would be 1180g flesh per day (295g per meal over 4 meals, 60g from an 8 egg omelette in the morning and 66g from Grow! Whey post workout then you’d hit 386g. Eat as many veggies and salad as you want.

Whaddya reckon?

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I thought you could only effectively use about 40g or so of protein per meal, max. I forget where I heard/read that, and it’s probably wrong.

[quote]tomcoves wrote:
Hey I reckon your progress is reptty much terrific! My input would be that there seems to be no mention of any cardio/energy systems work. I really wouldn’t be reducing calories too much further at all! And by the way you’ve obviously paid a lot of attention to detail because your food choices seem excellent.

I got some bad news for ya: the energy systems stuff is gonna suck but it’ll make a huge difference. The bittersweet thing is that you obviously want progress bad so that motivation will drive you to train till your heart and lungs want to pop of your chest. I think you should look at maybe Tabata sprints once a week (and be honest with your intensity levels - 110% for just 4 minutes!; if you’re not sure what these are let me know), some 400m sprint sessions - work:rest ratio of 1:1 is tough but effective (go for say 4-5 sets or maybe 2 lots of 3 sets with 5 min break), and maybe a couple of easy half hour jogs or walks. I guarantee these sessions will be worth their weight in gold when added to your weights sessions. Remember to be honest with yourself about your effort levels! Best of luck - you’re on the right track! [/quote]

I’m really not happy with my cardio right now, and I’ve been considering changing things up. Assuming I can find someplace that I can actually sprint for 20 seconds at a time (there’s no track around my home or work, but I could use the nature trail at work, or the huge parking lot loop, or the soccer field), I’m going to give them a shot tomorrow.

Mind, I haven’t done any running, and certainly no sprints, since my Army days. But, I hadn’t done any pullups since then either, and now I can knock out sets of weighted pullups, so I’m sure I can work back up to doing sprints.

[quote]mcl wrote:
stockzy wrote:
mcl wrote:
stockzy wrote:

I thought you could only effectively use about 40g or so of protein per meal, max. I forget where I heard/read that, and it’s probably wrong.

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Dogma. It’s individual specific. The bigger the meat eater the greater the need for and therefore the greater the ability to process protein. Of course other factors are involved such as level of acidic production in the stomach, zinc acsorption and general health of your gut plays a part too but we don’t need to get too specific.

Eat teh animals!

Well, I tried the Tabata sprints today.

It’s been nearly 20 years (when I was in the military) since I’ve done any sort of running, so I wanted to knock out 3, maybe 4 sprints.

I managed 3. Going all-out, timed with a stopwatch. 20s sprint, 10s rest. I walked back and am at my desk, and I’m still breathing heavy, and my lungs still hurt.

Thursday, I’m going to try for 4.

Hopefully, I won’t puke.

I figure I’ll be up to the full 8 in a few more weeks.

Thanks for the suggestion!