Front Squats on light day

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]XArena wrote:

[quote]yarni wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
This is the powerlifting forum. All that matters is your lifts.
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I agree. That is one of the advantages of strength sports: the results really do speak for themselves. It’s a much nobler pursuit than say, bodybuilding, which is transfixed on some subjective ideal. In strength sports, the results are objective, they are real. And as a result, there is a greater sense of comradery and respect among lifters.

But in saying that - posting an avatar of yourself, posing, top-lit… well it does kind of go against the taste of those who do sports like powerlifting, strongman, olympic-lifting.
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Why does it go against them? I’m not trying to insult anyone, if it’s really that big of a deal I’ll change my picture, I don’t care much for sports like PL, strongman, OL, I just lift for fun and stuff
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Firstly, and most importantly, if you dont care too much for powerlifting, and dont want to be judged as a powerlifter, you shouldnt post here: this is a very specific forum.

And in answer to your question ‘why does it go against them’? Because strength athletes dont generally POSE! And it’s not ‘insulting’ to them. You’re not calling their mothers’ whores. It’s embarrassing if nothing else. Look, I suppose posey pictures just form a stereotypical image in the mind of your typical non-bodybuilder-lifter. Maybe you arent a delusional, narcicistic teenager, but the avatar gives that impression.

Don’t take it personally, just accept it as fact! The strength athlete wants see the human body performing extreme feats! On the battlefield! See: http://www.google.cz/imgres?imgurl=http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/50412_23882187762_454695_n.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.facebook.com/group.php%3Fgid%3D23882187762&h=255&w=200&sz=15&tbnid=4z8WjH3yP6a25M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=71&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddmitry%2Bklokov%2Bphotos%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=dmitry+klokov+photos&docid=mhcIx_WJPKxa9M&hl=cs&sa=X&ei=rUONTrXvDIqq0QWz_c06&ved=0CCcQ9QEwBA

But dont worry, everyone gets criticised on forums. If you’re not a powerlifter, do front squats too. It’s good to mix the back and front variations because focusing on one is less optimal for shoulder health (of course not an issue for a powerlifter, back squat - or oly lifter, mostly front squat). But if you just want to get stronger generally mix them up. But maybe dont do 5x5 with fornt squats. It’s difficult to keep your elbows up for prolonged sets. It’s best to work up to heavy triples, doubles, singles. Go from 50% to near max in sets like: 5, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1. Focusing on keeping your thoracic spine strong and errect and your elbows held up - not easy.

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[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:

[quote]XArena wrote:

[quote]yarni wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
This is the powerlifting forum. All that matters is your lifts.
[/quote]

I agree. That is one of the advantages of strength sports: the results really do speak for themselves. It’s a much nobler pursuit than say, bodybuilding, which is transfixed on some subjective ideal. In strength sports, the results are objective, they are real. And as a result, there is a greater sense of comradery and respect among lifters.

But in saying that - posting an avatar of yourself, posing, top-lit… well it does kind of go against the taste of those who do sports like powerlifting, strongman, olympic-lifting.
[/quote]

Why does it go against them? I’m not trying to insult anyone, if it’s really that big of a deal I’ll change my picture, I don’t care much for sports like PL, strongman, OL, I just lift for fun and stuff
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Look at most PL, Strongman, OL, they’re usually showing off the bad ass of the sport they’re doing, not doing some emo myspace pose - that’s more of a bodybuilder type person. If that’s your thing then get at it, but you did post in the powerlifting forum, so we are assuming you have intentions of competing or have competed. If you have no intention of doing so, then this thread should have been in the bodybuilder forum. Post and ask questions to the people that have similar goals to you, because the answers will be much more in line with what you’re looking for. The goal for us, is maximal strength. For many, this means eating more than probably necessary for the sake of being able to recover. For others it simply means staying in a weight restricted class and getting the best numbers they can. The fact is though, everyone has intentions or does actually compete. So as I said, ask your questions to those who have the same goals as yourself. Are you intending on competing?
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Nope I’m not intending to compete, I just posted this in the PL forum because it seemed like the correct forum to post in, I thought that because the bill starr type routine I’m doing is a strength routine and PL is all about getting strong so yeah

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[quote]yarni wrote:

[quote]XArena wrote:

[quote]yarni wrote:

[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
This is the powerlifting forum. All that matters is your lifts.
[/quote]

I agree. That is one of the advantages of strength sports: the results really do speak for themselves. It’s a much nobler pursuit than say, bodybuilding, which is transfixed on some subjective ideal. In strength sports, the results are objective, they are real. And as a result, there is a greater sense of comradery and respect among lifters.

But in saying that - posting an avatar of yourself, posing, top-lit… well it does kind of go against the taste of those who do sports like powerlifting, strongman, olympic-lifting.
[/quote]

Why does it go against them? I’m not trying to insult anyone, if it’s really that big of a deal I’ll change my picture, I don’t care much for sports like PL, strongman, OL, I just lift for fun and stuff
[/quote]

Firstly, and most importantly, if you dont care too much for powerlifting, and dont want to be judged as a powerlifter, you shouldnt post here: this is a very specific forum.

And in answer to your question ‘why does it go against them’? Because strength athletes dont generally POSE! And it’s not ‘insulting’ to them. You’re not calling their mothers’ whores. It’s embarrassing if nothing else. Look, I suppose posey pictures just form a stereotypical image in the mind of your typical non-bodybuilder-lifter. Maybe you arent a delusional, narcicistic teenager, but the avatar gives that impression. Don’t take it personally, just accept it as fact! The strength athlete wants see the human body performing extreme feats! On the battlefield! See: http://www.google.cz/imgres?imgurl=http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/50412_23882187762_454695_n.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.facebook.com/group.php%3Fgid%3D23882187762&h=255&w=200&sz=15&tbnid=4z8WjH3yP6a25M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=71&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddmitry%2Bklokov%2Bphotos%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=dmitry+klokov+photos&docid=mhcIx_WJPKxa9M&hl=cs&sa=X&ei=rUONTrXvDIqq0QWz_c06&ved=0CCcQ9QEwBA

But dont worry, everyone gets criticised on forums. If you’re not a powerlifter, do front squats too. It’s good to mix the back and front variations because focusing on one is less optimal for shoulder health (of course not an issue for a powerlifter, back squat - or oly lifter, mostly front squat). But if you just want to get stronger generally mix them up. But maybe dont do 5x5 with fornt squats. It’s difficult to keep your elbows up for prolonged sets. It’s best to work up to heavy triples, doubles, singles. Go from 50% to near max in sets like: 5, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1. Focusing on keeping your thoracic spine strong and errect and your elbows held up - not easy. [/quote]

I’ll change the picture if it’s sucha big deal, I’ll make it me squatting :wink: and yeah, I’ve heard 5x5 with front squats is hard because its hard to keep your elbows up the whole time and stuff, hmm, maybe I’ll try something like working up to heavy singles in the future, thank you!

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@Yarni, btw when you said maybe im not some delusional or narcissistic teen or whatever, was it cause the glasses I have on in my picture? cause i dont wear those for fun, those are prescription raybans

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[quote]XArena wrote:
Nope I’m not intending to compete, I just posted this in the PL forum because it seemed like the correct forum to post in, I thought that because the bill starr type routine I’m doing is a strength routine and PL is all about getting strong so yeah
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Training for strength is fine and good, but this forum is a very narrow focus of actually competing in it. There is a strength component to every routine. 5x5 isn’t a “powerlifting” program, it’s just a beginners program geared at getting noobs a decent base strength level, just like Starting Strength is.

[quote]XArena wrote:
@Yarni, btw when you said maybe im not some delusional or narcissistic teen or whatever, was it cause the glasses I have on in my picture? cause i dont wear those for fun, those are prescription raybans[/quote]

No it’s because you’re taking some myspace emo pose in the mirror that your generation feels the need to do. Add that to the fact that with you being as skinny as you are, yet having some good abs (hey I can be positive too), leaves you looking like a delusional teen that thinks he is in good shape and “ripped” when in reality you’re just a skinny dude with abs. Your picture makes me think “that kid wears skinny jeans” which no male should ever want to be thought about in such a manner.

On a more positive note, give powerlifting a try, it’s one of the greatest things to do in the iron game. The competition is for the most part standardized and not so subjective as bodybuilding. The comraderie is great and you’ll always hear fellow competitors cheering you on at meets even if it means you may have just passed them in the rankings. Add that to the fact that lifting heavy shit + eating a lot = going to have you not looking like a delusional emotastic skinny dude. Personally I wish I had started when I was 15.

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Even if you decide to train like a PLer and never compete, but end up going to bb style stuff, you’ll have any awsome strength base.

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[quote]XArena wrote:
@Yarni, btw when you said maybe im not some delusional or narcissistic teen or whatever, was it cause the glasses I have on in my picture? cause i dont wear those for fun, those are prescription raybans[/quote]

No it’s not that, it’s the forced pose and facial expression. The reaction to it (from other posts) was clear. I cannot explain the multitude of factors that have played out over time causing this attitude to be common among certain people! I can just observe it and comment on it.

But from my point of view: be humble, lift try to improve, it takes a LONG time. Nothing wrong with being absolutely stoked about gains and getting and feeling bigger and stronger: that Is the drive - but the point is, be modest about it

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This thread is so ridiculous on so many levels.