Hi guys, i have a question. my first cycle should be starting in about 2 weeks. ill be running test e for 10 weeks, then finishing with 2 weeks of prop, all at 500 mgs a week. ill be starting it off with 25 mgs of dbol for 4 weeks. is there any reason not to also run 25 mgs of dbol for the last 4 weeks as well? i was wondering would this make recovery harder?
Why are you running prop at the end doesn’t make much sense at all. If your smart…
Weeks 1-3
Test E 500 weekly
Test Prop 50mg eod
Dbol 25mg daily
Weeks 4-5
Test E 500 weekly
Dbol 25mg weekly
Weeks 5-10
Test E 500.
[quote]Reed wrote:
Why are you running prop at the end doesn’t make much sense at all. If your smart…
Weeks 1-3
Test E 500 weekly
Test Prop 50mg eod
Dbol 25mg daily
Weeks 4-5
Test E 500 weekly
Dbol 25mg weekly
Weeks 5-10
Test E 500.[/quote]
thanks for the advice. the prop is at the end to allow blood levels to fall faster instead of being still suppressed but with fuck all benefits really. its supposed to make recovery faster and easier. i read about it from bill roberts
But the way your going about it would not work. If on week 10 you switch to prop you still have the Enath ester in your system in week 13 and even 14 so running the prop for 2 weeks into week 12 will really do nothing beneficial.
[quote]Reed wrote:
But the way your going about it would not work. If on week 10 you switch to prop you still have the Enath ester in your system in week 13 and even 14 so running the prop for 2 weeks into week 12 will really do nothing beneficial. [/quote]
i thought the half life of enanthate was 10-14 days? i always saw test e cycle’s pct being done 2 weeks after last shot. surely 2 weeks would be plenty of clearance time?
i dont mean to argue with you! if i do the cycle you laid out when would i start pct? week 14?
[quote]Reed wrote:
Why are you running prop at the end doesn’t make much sense at all. If your smart…
Weeks 1-3
Test E 500 weekly
Test Prop 50mg eod
Dbol 25mg daily
Weeks 4-5
Test E 500 weekly
Dbol 25mg weekly
Weeks 5-10
Test E 500.[/quote]
id do this or i might not even start the dbol till week 2 maybe even 3. but given that i love dbol i’d take it 50mg ED for atleast 4 weeks.
ok goddamn you guys fine ill do it!ha. ill keep a log on here. thanks!
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
[quote]Reed wrote:
Why are you running prop at the end doesn’t make much sense at all. If your smart…
Weeks 1-3
Test E 500 weekly
Test Prop 50mg eod
Dbol 25mg daily
Weeks 4-5
Test E 500 weekly
Dbol 25mg weekly
Weeks 5-10
Test E 500.[/quote]
id do this or i might not even start the dbol till week 2 maybe even 3. but given that i love dbol i’d take it 50mg ED for atleast 4 weeks.
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i was thinking that but when i looked it up all over for a first cycle, most people warned off the idea. i have 50 mg tablets so i was thinking i could take 37.5 mgs a day by taking a half and a third of them
The half life is about 14 days but E and Cyp will still keep test levels elevated well above base line 3 weeks after last pin and take about 4 to be completely gone. Its detectable in a test for months after coming off.
Right i should have known better than to expect it being straightforward! ill do it your way, thank god i asked ha. i cant wait to just stay on forever and not have to worry about this shit!
The half life of the enanthate ester is actually more like 5.25 days.
Also, finishing your cycle with prop makes perfect sense because it allows you to start your PCT much quicker.
I’d save the prop for the end and kickstart with dbol starting week 1.
[quote]Claron wrote:
The half life of the enanthate ester is actually more like 5.25 days.
Also, finishing your cycle with prop makes perfect sense because it allows you to start your PCT much quicker.
I’d save the prop for the end and kickstart with dbol starting week 1.[/quote]
But is still producing test well after 14 days this common knowledge.
Test Es half life is 10.5 days according the the manufacturers. Cyp is about 12 days. For 500mg test a week you’ll need 3 weeks before starting any PCT meds. 750mg more like 4 weeks. What you do in this time is up to you. Dbol starting a week before your last jab or you can do prop eod from last jab up to 3 days before PCT.
Word of advise. If you’ve never run a cycle before and you plan on running a quick starting ester or oral. Then take Nolva from the start at 20mg day, run this up until the week after you finish the kick start. Also take your AI from a week before starting the gear. Getting your AI dose correct is the hardest part, and as they take about 3 weeks to hit peak concentration you can end up with a set of titties pretty fast on DBol if your unlucky.
[quote]ESX wrote:
Test Es half life is 10.5 days according the the manufacturers. Cyp is about 12 days. For 500mg test a week you’ll need 3 weeks before starting any PCT meds. 750mg more like 4 weeks. What you do in this time is up to you. Dbol starting a week before your last jab or you can do prop eod from last jab up to 3 days before PCT.
Word of advise. If you’ve never run a cycle before and you plan on running a quick starting ester or oral. Then take Nolva from the start at 20mg day, run this up until the week after you finish the kick start. Also take your AI from a week before starting the gear. Getting your AI dose correct is the hardest part, and as they take about 3 weeks to hit peak concentration you can end up with a set of titties pretty fast on DBol if your unlucky.[/quote]
great thanks for the advice, yeah ive got aromasin and nolva on hand. thanks!
Reed, do you think if i did what you laid out, but stopped the test E at week 9 and did prop for the last 3 weeks it would work better? i wish i had just gotten pure fucking prop ha.
Yes that would be a much more solid way to go about what your trying to accomplish.
[quote]Reed wrote:
Yes that would be a much more solid way to go about what your trying to accomplish.[/quote]
thanks for your help.ill let you know how it goes.