I’m in the cortisol suppression/htpa recovery (sort of) stage of my BTPB style cycle. Things are going splendid and I’m making very nice gains and still holding/I’m sure to be making some more real soon.
Thing is my nuts are not looking very large at all? I’ve been I mean they’re smaller then lately then they where when I was on tren, drol, and a gram of test a month or so back. The only thing I can think of is the proviron. I’m using 50 mg ed with, 20 mg oral winstrol in the morning, and 40 mg clomid, along with a few cortisol blunting otc compounds.
Upon futher inspection it’s not so much that they’re smaller (although they are) but they’re sitting real high. Or as we call it I’ve got “The bird’s nest”.
Is this the proviron? I’m only on week 8-9 of the cycle and like I said things where swinging nice before I went into this phase so I can only think it is.
P-22 I saw that coming from a mile away you big silly fuck! LOL I love you man. I know very damn well that the test taper is the way to go for pct. However as bushido ball breaker has pointed out this is merely a “little down time” to before I begin either another max androgen phase or an absolute anabolic aas phase, still considering layering in an absolute anabolic phase but not sure?
When it’s time to go off completely which won’t be for another 7-8 weeks or so I will use a test taper/adex then probably use some nolva/longjack, powerfull and maybe a few other neat otc products for most of the winter.
That said, it it normal for proviron to have this effect? No my girl hasnt’ said anything Bushido! She’s not on nuts so anytime she’s down there it’s mainly mouth to dick time and very little else. Wich is ok However the rest of your description is spot on.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
So while you were on massive doses of test etc, everting was fiiine, but now you’re not, your nuts are hugging your gooch and you are worried? Been getting a few comments from the laydee have we? Eh?[/quote]
Dude, I think I need you to record my new voicemail greeting and just read what you wrote above. Betcha it’ll stop people from leaving messages because they’ll be laughing too hard…
You could have ran HCG throughout at 300 or so IUS EOD or 500 IUS a week…I do and never have a shrinkage problem or a recovery problem. I used Proviron during my last cycle and think it’s great. Good luck…
I am interested in your BTPB cycles. I have CME. Did you get the paper or e-book?
I’m liking it ALOT so far. I’m using lower doses of gear and for the most part you’re not on anything for longer then 4 weeks (maybe 6) wich imo means way less time for side affects to accumlate. On top of that it mean that you actually use less gear volume wise also vs a more conventional cycle where you use the same compounds for many many weeks on end.
the hieght of wich your balls are riding has nothing to do with gear but all to do with body temperature.
The cartlidge that holds your nuts in place directly responds to your temperature to keep your fellas in perfect operating temperature. If your body is too hot and the fellas need cooling, they will sag. If your fellas are cool and need to be warmed, they suck up to the body.
[quote]maxx power wrote:
the hieght of wich your balls are riding has nothing to do with gear but all to do with body temperature.
The cartlidge that holds your nuts in place directly responds to your temperature to keep your fellas in perfect operating temperature. If your body is too hot and the fellas need cooling, they will sag. If your fellas are cool and need to be warmed, they suck up to the body.[/quote]
lol. It’s a relief to know that. It’s the middle of winter here, and I was starting to get worried because my old fellas have been looking tightly shrivelled due to the cold. It’s funny and weird how the human organism works…
BTW the wintrol is gone for many days now. It had no place in there. I was using var but ran out so I switched to winstrol and if I had run it the same time as I ran the var it would only mean 2 weeks on winstrol, so I stretched it to 3 and used a much lower dose and an a.m. protocol to keep it’s suppresive effects minimum. If that makes any sense, I’m not as well read as yourself and some others but from what I gathered my logic there wasn’t that retarded.
SO it’s going to be another 2 weeks on proviron/clomid/p-Tyramine, Clary Sage Extract, 17a-methyl-baEt/ and I’m alternating between 50mcg of clen and HOT-ROX. I’m eatng around maintenance, actually I assume I am as I’m not stuffing myself nor am I starving myself. However, I have to say that I can tell once I start eating alot I’ll be putting more size on for sure. I’m holding as is and leaning out a bit while still gaining some strength.
P-22 or anyone else who would like to comment what choice of compounds would you use in my next round. I was thinking about doing another max androgen phase for 4 week and overlap the last 2 weeks of it with an absolute anabolic phase.
It would look something like.
Weeks 1-4
1 gram test ent a week
500 mg tren ace a week
25 mg dbol for the first 2 weeks
Weeks 3-6
500 mg primo
500 mg masteron
40-50 mg var ed
Weeks 5-6
Drop the test ent and replace with 700 mgs test prop a week
Possibility for week 3-6 or maybe to hold gains better weeks 5-8
40 mcg of igf-1 on training days
20 mcgs days off
10iu slin in the am and 10 iu post workout
5-8 iu hgh ed (depending on how my body tolerates it)
t4 ala Anthonty Roberts reccomendation in his HGH and t4 article.
Well maybe I’ll stretch everything out for another week. Still 1 month of a gram of test enth with 500 mg of tren ace along with dbol for the first 2 weeks will make for some serious gains.
I do agree on the slin thing. SO maybe just 10 iu post workout and on the days I train twice I’ll do 8 iu and then 8iu. The primo would be ent and if I run it the way I laid it out it would be for weeks 3-4-5-6 so that’s a month of primo BUT maybe I’ll make it 5 weeks instead.
Thanks for the feebback brother.
It’s pretty much how ALR lays it out in his book. However, I figure the tren and dbol should be more then enough for the first 2 weeks to make some gains and then most likely by the end of week 2 the test ent should be going strong.
However the rest of your description is spot on.