Frank Rich: Teaparty = Racists

I know we’ve had a lot of these lately - but this piece is so incredibly obnoxious that, perversely enough, I thought it deserved it’s own space.

I’ve never seen such baldfaced lying in a major newspaper. Never.

What kind of paper would publish such utter tripe?

He’s nothing but a humorless, despicable little bigot.


His piece in the NYT: Opinion | The Rage Is Not About Health Care - The New York Times

The Rage Is Not About Health Care

By FRANK RICH

THERE were times when last Sundayâ??s great G.O.P. health care implosion threatened to bring the thrill back to reality television. On ABCâ??s â??This Week,â?? a frothing and filibustering Karl Rove all but lost it in a debate with the Obama strategist David Plouffe. A few hours later, the perennially copper-faced Republican leader John Boehner revved up his â??Hell no, you canâ??t!â?? incantation in the House chamber â?? instant fodder for a new viral video remixing his rap with will.i.amâ??s â??Yes, we can!â?? classic from the campaign. Boehner, having previously likened the health care bill to Armageddon, was now so apoplectic you had to wonder if he had just discovered one of its more obscure revenue-generating provisions, a tax on indoor tanning salons.

But the laughs evaporated soon enough. Thereâ??s nothing entertaining about watching goons hurl venomous slurs at congressmen like the civil rights hero John Lewis and the openly gay Barney Frank. And as the week dragged on, and reports of death threats and vandalism stretched from Arizona to Kansas to upstate New York, the F.B.I. and the local police had to get into the act to protect members of Congress and their families.

How curious that a mob fond of likening President Obama to Hitler knows so little about history that it doesnâ??t recognize its own small-scale mimicry of Kristallnacht. The weapon of choice for vigilante violence at Congressional offices has been a brick hurled through a window. So far.

No less curious is how disproportionate this red-hot anger is to its proximate cause. The historic Obama-Pelosi health care victory is a big deal, all right, so much so it doesnâ??t need Joe Bidenâ??s adjective to hype it. But the bill does not erect a huge New Deal-Great Society-style government program. In lieu of a public option, it delivers 32 million newly insured Americans to private insurers. As no less a conservative authority than The Wall Street Journal editorial page observed last week, the billâ??s prototype is the health care legislation Mitt Romney signed into law in Massachusetts. It contains what used to be considered Republican ideas.

Yet itâ??s this bill that inspired G.O.P. congressmen on the House floor to egg on disruptive protesters even as they were being evicted from the gallery by the Capitol Police last Sunday. Itâ??s this bill that prompted a congressman to shout â??baby killerâ?? at Bart Stupak, a staunch anti-abortion Democrat. Itâ??s this bill that drove a demonstrator to spit on Emanuel Cleaver, a black representative from Missouri. And itâ??s this â??middle-of-the-roadâ?? bill, as Obama accurately calls it, that has incited an unglued firestorm of homicidal rhetoric, from â??Kill the bill!â?? to Sarah Palinâ??s cry for her followers to â??reload.â?? At least four of the House members hit with death threats or vandalism are among the 20 political targets Palin marks with rifle crosshairs on a map on her Facebook page.

When Social Security was passed by Congress in 1935 and Medicare in 1965, there was indeed heated opposition. As Dana Milbank wrote in The Washington Post, Alf Landon built his catastrophic 1936 presidential campaign on a call for repealing Social Security. (Democrats can only pray that the G.O.P. will â??go for itâ?? again in 2010, as Obama goaded them on Thursday, and keep demanding repeal of a bill that by September will shower benefits on the elderly and children alike.) When L.B.J. scored his Medicare coup, there were the inevitable cries of â??socialismâ?? along with ultimately empty rumblings of a boycott from the American Medical Association.

But there was nothing like this. To find a prototype for the overheated reaction to the health care bill, you have to look a year before Medicare, to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Both laws passed by similar majorities in Congress; the Civil Rights Act received even more votes in the Senate (73) than Medicare (70). But it was only the civil rights bill that made some Americans run off the rails. Thatâ??s because it was the one that signaled an inexorable and immutable change in the very identity of America, not just its governance.

The apocalyptic predictions then, like those about health care now, were all framed in constitutional pieties, of course. Barry Goldwater, running for president in â??64, drew on the counsel of two young legal allies, William Rehnquist and Robert Bork, to characterize the bill as a â??threat to the very essence of our basic systemâ?? and a â??usurpationâ?? of statesâ?? rights that â??would force you to admit drunks, a known murderer or an insane person into your place of business.â?? Richard Russell, the segregationist Democratic senator from Georgia, said the bill â??would destroy the free enterprise system.â?? David Lawrence, a widely syndicated conservative columnist, bemoaned the establishment of â??a federal dictatorship.â?? Meanwhile, three civil rights workers were murdered in Philadelphia, Miss.

That a tsunami of anger is gathering today is illogical, given that what the right calls â??Obamacareâ?? is less provocative than either the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Medicare, an epic entitlement that actually did precipitate a government takeover of a sizable chunk of American health care. But the explanation is plain: the health care bill is not the main source of this anger and never has been. Itâ??s merely a handy excuse. The real source of the over-the-top rage of 2010 is the same kind of national existential reordering that roiled America in 1964.

In fact, the current surge of anger â?? and the accompanying rise in right-wing extremism â?? predates the entire health care debate. The first signs were the shrieks of â??traitorâ?? and â??off with his headâ?? at Palin rallies as Obamaâ??s election became more likely in October 2008. Those passions have spiraled ever since â?? from Gov. Rick Perryâ??s kowtowing to secessionists at a Tea Party rally in Texas to the gratuitous brandishing of assault weapons at Obama health care rallies last summer to â??You lie!â?? piercing the presidentâ??s address to Congress last fall like an ominous shot.

If Obamaâ??s first legislative priority had been immigration or financial reform or climate change, we would have seen the same trajectory. The conjunction of a black president and a female speaker of the House â?? topped off by a wise Latina on the Supreme Court and a powerful gay Congressional committee chairman â?? would sow fears of disenfranchisement among a dwindling and threatened minority in the country no matter what policies were in play. Itâ??s not happenstance that Frank, Lewis and Cleaver â?? none of them major Democratic players in the health care push â?? received a major share of last weekendâ??s abuse. When you hear demonstrators chant the slogan â??Take our country back!,â?? these are the people they want to take the country back from.

They canâ??t. Demographics are avatars of a change bigger than any bill contemplated by Obama or Congress. The week before the health care vote, The Times reported that births to Asian, black and Hispanic women accounted for 48 percent of all births in America in the 12 months ending in July 2008. By 2012, the next presidential election year, non-Hispanic white births will be in the minority. The Tea Party movement is virtually all white. The Republicans havenâ??t had a single African-American in the Senate or the House since 2003 and have had only three in total since 1935. Their anxieties about a rapidly changing America are well-grounded.

If Congressional Republicans want to maintain a politburo-like homogeneity in opposition to the Democrats, thatâ??s their right. If they want to replay the petulant Gingrich government shutdown of 1995 by boycotting hearings and, as John McCain has vowed, refusing to cooperate on any legislation, thatâ??s their right too (and a political gift to the Democrats). But they canâ??t emulate the 1995 G.O.P. by remaining silent as mass hysteria, some of it encompassing armed militias, runs amok in their own precincts. We know the end of that story. And they canâ??t pretend that weâ??re talking about â??isolated incidentsâ?? or a â??fringeâ?? utterly divorced from the G.O.P. A Quinnipiac poll last week found that 74 percent of Tea Party members identify themselves as Republicans or Republican-leaning independents, while only 16 percent are aligned with Democrats.

After the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed, some responsible leaders in both parties spoke out to try to put a lid on the resistance and violence. The arch-segregationist Russell of Georgia, concerned about what might happen in his own backyard, declared flatly that the law is â??now on the books.â?? Yet no Republican or conservative leader of stature has taken on Palin, Perry, Boehner or any of the others who have been stoking these fires for a good 17 months now. Last week McCain even endorsed Palinâ??s â??reloadâ?? rhetoric.

Are these politicians so frightened of offending anyone in the Tea Party-Glenn Beck base that they would rather fall silent than call out its extremist elements and their enablers? Seemingly so, and if G.O.P. leaders of all stripes, from Romney to Mitch McConnell to Olympia Snowe to Lindsey Graham, are afraid of these forces, thatâ??s the strongest possible indicator that the rest of us have reason to fear them too.

Indeed, the tea party is a very tolerating bunch, where gay, and people from all races will be welcomed, and feel, and be respected.

[quote]espenl wrote:
Indeed, the tea party is a very tolerating bunch, where gay, and people from all races will be welcomed, and feel, and be respected.[/quote]

Yes - I know for a fact that they are.

Now let me ask you: how would you “know” otherwise? How many “Tea Parties” have you been to?

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]espenl wrote:
Indeed, the tea party is a very tolerating bunch, where gay, and people from all races will be welcomed, and feel, and be respected.[/quote]

Yes - as a matter of fact they are. I know this for a fact.
[/quote]

Yes, as I said.

Haven’t had time to finish it yet, but what specifically is bothering you? for instance what “lies” do you take issue with?

Anyway, peoples biases really come through with big political/social events like these. You should read the Wall Street Journal’s article covering Woodstock in the 60’s. They refer to the hippies as pigs “wallowing in the mud”.

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Haven’t had time to finish it yet, but what specifically is bothering you? for instance what “lies” do you take issue with?

Anyway, peoples biases really come through with big political/social events like these. You should read the Wall Street Journal’s article covering Woodstock in the 60’s. They refer to the hippies as pigs “wallowing in the mud”.[/quote]

How about for starters that there was ZERO evidence of racism at the Tea Party that weekend? He simply assumes it’s true. Unbelievable. He’s a propagandist - pure and simple.

The 60’s Woodstock crowd were indeed a bunch of pigs: they were literally wallowing in their own feces.

They were also a bunch of fucking hypocrits: they shouted and whined about the Vietnam War - and yet…

What did they do when Pol Pot killed 2 million people?

Silence.

What did they do when Stalin and Mao killed more than 50 Million people?

Celebrated them.

Fucking pricks.

Exactly Katz, gutless pussies.

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

Peoples biases really come through with big political/social events like these

.[/quote]

How about for starters that there was ZERO evidence of racism at the Tea Party that weekend? He simply assumes it’s true. Unbelievable. He’s a propagandist - pure and simple.

The 60’s Woodstock crowd were indeed a bunch of pigs: they were literally wallowing in their own feces.

They were also a bunch of fucking hypocrits: they shouted and whined about the Vietnam War - and yet…

What did they do when Pol Pot killed 2 million people?

Silence.

What did they do when Stalin and Mao killed more than 50 Million people?

Celebrated them.

Fucking pricks. [/quote]
You proved my point better than I could have hoped for. You categorizing hippies as pigs is no different than someone categorizing the tea party movement as racist. You certainly have your prejudices, just like many people do.

So to be fair, maybe your right; perhaps the writer did profile the tea party movement unfairly in this case. But your joking if you think people holding signs like this make this movement seem rational.

don’t fight them on the birther thing. they’re all birthers.

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

Peoples biases really come through with big political/social events like these

.[/quote]

How about for starters that there was ZERO evidence of racism at the Tea Party that weekend? He simply assumes it’s true. Unbelievable. He’s a propagandist - pure and simple.

The 60’s Woodstock crowd were indeed a bunch of pigs: they were literally wallowing in their own feces.

They were also a bunch of fucking hypocrits: they shouted and whined about the Vietnam War - and yet…

What did they do when Pol Pot killed 2 million people?

Silence.

What did they do when Stalin and Mao killed more than 50 Million people?

Celebrated them.

Fucking pricks. [/quote]
You proved my point better than I could have hoped for. You categorizing hippies as pigs is no different than someone categorizing the tea party movement as racist. You certainly have your prejudices, just like many people do.

So to be fair, maybe your right; perhaps the writer did profile the tea party movement unfairly in this case. But your joking if you think people holding signs like this make this movement seem rational. [/quote]

There have been a lot of bizarre and plainly stupid posts lately - and this one is certainly up there among them.

Who said ANYTHING about NOT “categorizing”??? I referred to “people,” for example. That would be categorizing too, right? We even cannot think without categorizing.

I have nothing against categorizing. I do, however, have something against baldfaced lying.

What I said was about “hippies” is true. Frank Rich - a journalist by the way who has a special responsibility to the truth - is outright lying. And he knows it.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Got it?

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

Peoples biases really come through with big political/social events like these

.[/quote]

How about for starters that there was ZERO evidence of racism at the Tea Party that weekend? He simply assumes it’s true. Unbelievable. He’s a propagandist - pure and simple.

The 60’s Woodstock crowd were indeed a bunch of pigs: they were literally wallowing in their own feces.

They were also a bunch of fucking hypocrits: they shouted and whined about the Vietnam War - and yet…

What did they do when Pol Pot killed 2 million people?

Silence.

What did they do when Stalin and Mao killed more than 50 Million people?

Celebrated them.

Fucking pricks. [/quote]
You proved my point better than I could have hoped for. You categorizing hippies as pigs is no different than someone categorizing the tea party movement as racist. You certainly have your prejudices, just like many people do.

So to be fair, maybe your right; perhaps the writer did profile the tea party movement unfairly in this case. But your joking if you think people holding signs like this make this movement seem rational. [/quote]

There have been a lot of bizarre and plainly stupid posts lately - and this one is certainly up there among them.

Who said ANYTHING about NOT “categorizing”??? I referred to “people,” for example. That would be categorizing too, right? We even cannot think without categorizing.

I have nothing against categorizing. I do, however, have something against baldfaced lying.

What I said was about “hippies” is true. Frank Rich - a journalist by the way who has a special responsibility to the truth - is outright lying. And he knows it.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Got it?

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I’ll be even simpler with you. You’re upset because people are profiling the tea party members, right? How is that at all different than you profiling another group of people such as hippies or libs? The point is you’re getting on your high horse when I clearly showed that you’re even more prejudicial towards a different group. All it took was for me to even mention hippies and you went to town about how “they” all did this and “they” all did that. You fell for it pretty hard.

And as far as bald faced lying goes, when there are hundreds of signs comparing Obama to Hitler at almost every tea party it’s hard to give your claim much credit. It’s definitely true that not all tea party members are racist, and maybe there were no racist/ violent signs at the tea party you mentioned. However, that’s definitely not the case overall. I give you the leader of www.teaparty.org

White people aligning is very bad. Non-whites aligning for their cause is good and to be celebrated.

The liberals (or the leftists in Europe) throw a fit if they hear rumours about some white people gathering and saying some potentially offensive things, but they don’t care to report how non-whites are leaving cities in ruins and acting on their hateful words which 99% of racist whites never do, and which is a major reason non-whites are so confident about destroying whites. Non-white on white devastation is just so ordinary that it does not really register as news.

Tanker,

You pointed out, that there are racists and non racists in every single group, something we knew already. Was a there a point to be made that we already didn’t know?

If Frank Rich wants to write an article about how Tea Party people are racist, an equal article could be written about how they are not. Was any progress made, other than not to stereotype people?

Where was Frank Rich when you had people from all sorts of cultural backgrounds calling for the death of George Bush ? When the guy threw his shoe at George Bush, did anyone scream racism? If you threw a shoe at Obama, would there be that same silence ?

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

I’ll be even simpler with you. You’re upset because people are profiling the tea party members, right? [/quote]

WRONG FUCKTARD.

WHY DON’T YOU TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS?

IT MAKES READING MUCH EASIER.

I’VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PROFILING. NOTHING ABOUT CATAGORIZING.

I’M NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF.

HEAD. ASS. TAKE OUT OF AND READ. OR FUCK OFF.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Tanker,

You pointed out, that there are racists and non racists in every single group, something we knew already. Was a there a point to be made that we already didn’t know?

If Frank Rich wants to write an article about how Tea Party people are racist, an equal article could be written about how they are not. Was any progress made, other than not to stereotype people?

Where was Frank Rich when you had people from all sorts of cultural backgrounds calling for the death of George Bush ? When the guy threw his shoe at George Bush, did anyone scream racism? If you threw a shoe at Obama, would there be that same silence ?[/quote]
Hi Max,

What I wanted to show is that the OP himself had prejudice for a certain group. All I did was mention hippies and he went to town, someone else chimed in and said something like “hippies are a bunch of fags”. I assumed that he was upset about prejudice, so i just wanted to point out that there’s a lot of prejudice in all of the media and certainly a great deal of it in the OP. That’s it.

I’m not really taking sides here, I have never been to a tea party or seen one in person. I’m sure the author of the article has his biases and that they came through in his writing. The OP claims that he’s “bald faced lying” but he’s failed to mention anything specific from the text so that’s not going very far yet.

You definitely did make me think about the similarities between the tea party and the early bush protesters though. I was too young to really remember it but both had signs comparing the president to hitler… It’s ridiculous in my opinion.

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

I’ll be even simpler with you. You’re upset because people are profiling the tea party members, right? [/quote]

WRONG FUCKTARD.

[/quote]

But there are people at the tea parties who’ve written racist/slanderous posters. I posted one earlier. You say you’re upset about lying, but you’re really upset that the tea party is getting a bad wrap for its earlier actions. That my friend is called prejudice. If you want to do something about it, make an effort to let other people know that the tea party is responsible and tolerant. Start with yourself, because there are a lot of people who would read what you wrote about hippies and immediately dismiss it as “bald faced lying” too.

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Tanker,

You pointed out, that there are racists and non racists in every single group, something we knew already. Was a there a point to be made that we already didn’t know?

If Frank Rich wants to write an article about how Tea Party people are racist, an equal article could be written about how they are not. Was any progress made, other than not to stereotype people?

Where was Frank Rich when you had people from all sorts of cultural backgrounds calling for the death of George Bush ? When the guy threw his shoe at George Bush, did anyone scream racism? If you threw a shoe at Obama, would there be that same silence ?[/quote]
Hi Max,

What I wanted to show is that the OP himself had prejudice for a certain group. All I did was mention hippies and he went to town, someone else chimed in and said something like “hippies are a bunch of fags”. I assumed that he was upset about prejudice, so i just wanted to point out that there’s a lot of prejudice in all of the media and certainly a great deal of it in the OP. That’s it.

I’m not really taking sides here, I have never been to a tea party or seen one in person. I’m sure the author of the article has his biases and that they came through in his writing. The OP claims that he’s “bald faced lying” but he’s failed to mention anything specific from the text so that’s not going very far yet.

You definitely did make me think about the similarities between the tea party and the early bush protesters though. I was too young to really remember it but both had signs comparing the president to hitler… It’s ridiculous in my opinion.[/quote]

You really have to be one of the biggest boneheads I have come across on this board.

Do you really think I didn’t see your “hippy” bait? LOL. Again: what I said (knowing full well your “ploy”…LOL) about hippies is demonstratably true; Mr. Rich’s piece about Tea Partiers is filled with so many lies, I’m not sure where to start (what would you like me to to? - cut and paste the whole thing for you? LOL) If you can’t see that, you are indeed a brainwashed little fellow.

You are so busy being impressed with yourself and your “hippy” red herring - and so full of your own verbal diarrhea about nothing - that you don’t reallize how off the mark you are.

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
The OP claims that he’s “bald faced lying” but he’s failed to mention anything specific from the text so that’s not going very far yet.
[/quote]

How about starting with this:

There’s nothing entertaining about watching goons hurl venomous slurs at congressmen like the civil rights hero John Lewis…

THAT ^^ - and just about every other sentance in the piece - is a BALD FACED LIE.

Nota Bena: I have said nothing about catagorizing, or generalizing, or profiling, or whatever else you’re fantasizing about.

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

I’ll be even simpler with you. You’re upset because people are profiling the tea party members, right? [/quote]

WRONG FUCKTARD.

WHY DON’T YOU TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS?

IT MAKES READING MUCH EASIER.

I’VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PROFILING. NOTHING ABOUT CATAGORIZING.

I’M NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF.

HEAD. ASS. TAKE OUT OF AND READ. OR FUCK OFF.

[/quote]

Katz, you are by far my favoite Masshole. FWI

V

[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:

I’ll be even simpler with you. You’re upset because people are profiling the tea party members, right? [/quote]

WRONG FUCKTARD.

WHY DON’T YOU TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS?

IT MAKES READING MUCH EASIER.

I’VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PROFILING. NOTHING ABOUT CATAGORIZING.

I’M NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF.

HEAD. ASS. TAKE OUT OF AND READ. OR FUCK OFF.

[/quote]

Katz, you are by far my favoite Masshole. FWI

V[/quote]

I had to Wiki Masshole because I have never heard that term before. I lol’d.