To OP, thanks for the laughs!
Very informative articles, you can tell the author must have a university degree or something. As already stated, make sure you make clear that it’s a quote at the top of the page…before people call YOU a retard. lol
That synthol/boob enhancement video was hilarious! And the guy loves himself…why???
[quote]horsepuss wrote:
Przeminashell wrote:
reading this made me think of Ken Leistner. i’ve always wondered how a guy weighing 160 and looking as if he barely lifts weights can be so freaking strong, not to mention being natural and not even using supps? not trying to be a smart ass here just looking for the answer.
just in case you’ve never seen - 407 x 23
http://www.gridironincny.com/videos/flash/ken/ken.html
I hate to sound like a hater but I call bullshit on this lift.
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hahaha i can understand you guys being skeptical but it’s probably because you don’t know who Leistner is. the guy is truly old school, in his younger days he was employed by Arthur Jones. He’s always been a proponent of short and simple but brutal training sessions (aka HIT), and has trained this way all his life. the plates don’t bounce or clang because they’re tightly held together by metal collars, hence the 407 rather than 405. this lift is many things but bullshit it is not.
it’s a shame hardcore, no nonsense lifters like him get so little recognition
[quote]Przeminashell wrote:
horsepuss wrote:
Przeminashell wrote:
reading this made me think of Ken Leistner. i’ve always wondered how a guy weighing 160 and looking as if he barely lifts weights can be so freaking strong, not to mention being natural and not even using supps? not trying to be a smart ass here just looking for the answer.
just in case you’ve never seen - 407 x 23
http://www.gridironincny.com/videos/flash/ken/ken.html
I hate to sound like a hater but I call bullshit on this lift.
hahaha i can understand you guys being skeptical but it’s probably because you don’t know who Leistner is. the guy is truly old school, in his younger days he was employed by Arthur Jones. He’s always been a proponent of short and simple but brutal training sessions (aka HIT), and has trained this way all his life. the plates don’t bounce or clang because they’re tightly held together by metal collars, hence the 407 rather than 405. this lift is many things but bullshit it is not.
it’s a shame hardcore, no nonsense lifters like him get so little recognition [/quote]
Reading comprehension dude. The people who are doubting and call bs on it do so because there is little flexion on the bar. I mean, with four 45lbs plates on each side, and the bar doesn’t even flex? Notice that they are not talking about plates bouncing (against each other) or clanging. They are referring to bouncing due to the bending on the bar (which is independent of the collars.)
It is all within the realm of possibility that this bar is of a brand that might not flex as much as the ones you typically find at gyms. But I can say it doesn’t look like a fat bar at all, more like a regular type of barbell.
A regular bar starts to bend around 3x45lbs+1x25lbs plates (160lbs+/-) on each side on squats (and around 170 to 180lbs on each side when dead lifting.) The bending is visible.
The max that I’ve ever put on my back and get a good squat was 3 plates of 45lbs and 1 of 25 on each side, and I could see the bar bending (slightly but noticeable enough) without me even starting to squat.
But not so in this case, with more weight and with a good number of reps with the bar going up and down? How do you explain that???
Doesn’t really matter whether Ken Leistner can do that or not… He’s thin as a rail either way… I hope to god that his goal in training was relative strength only (and if it is/was, then he’s doing a good job at it, so congrats to him).
Fellas, the setup of this website is EXACTLY the same as the “Self Defense Masters” who tell you why regular Martial arts are useless and why you should spend $1,343 on their super secret program that they learned from Shaolin monks and have only taught to Navy Seals.
Look at this sham of a website:
www.closecombattraining.com/
And look at his site: www.fromskinnytomuscular.com/
What they have in common is a bunch of useless shit that you scroll down on for an hour until you reach the part where they say, “Give me your credit card.”
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Fellas, the setup of this website is EXACTLY the same as the “Self Defense Masters” who tell you why regular Martial arts are useless and why you should spend $1,343 on their super secret program that they learned from Shaolin monks and have only taught to Navy Seals.
Look at this sham of a website:
www.closecombattraining.com/
And look at his site: www.fromskinnytomuscular.com/
What they have in common is a bunch of useless shit that you scroll down on for an hour until you reach the part where they say, “Give me your credit card.”
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ya there are a ton of those going around now. www.leanhybridfitness.com was another one that just came out. The thing I find funnier is the advertising that goes on the sides of webpages now a days. I think ive seen them on facebook, and some porn sites. The ones on facebook will be all about two great supplements that will help you get lean and ripped. And the ones on porn sites will make you bigger and last longer.
There format looks exactly the same, and if you look at the supplements they are pretty much the same as well. I think they both have something called Forcemax or something Acaimax or something similar. Actually now that im looking there are a TON of these now. Probably all the same guy or company trying to “diversify”
jasonsrippedlog.com/testimonial.php?sub=YJfoot4 heres one of the workout ones.
cartergotcut.com/ And another
losangeles-gazzete.com/news/getrippedformula.php?s=prabbt&go=1&myblog=4827842 and another
I couldn’t find the ‘penis enhancement’ ones but they are all the same supplements basically.
I dunno, I thought Acai was so last year. And I really dont see how some antioxidants are going to make you lean and ripped.
Ha, another funny thing, is that this article comes from that same site.
www.fromskinnytomuscular.com/wordpress/2009/09/03/lift-heavy-weights-to-gain-mass-quickly/
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Mr.Purple wrote:
DOHCrazy wrote:
Too long. Didn’t read.
Yes. Also, you can tell after the first line that it’s going to be a one way trip to full retard.
hahahahahaha[/quote]
Fuck this is so fucking funny. Funnier than a Chimpanzee wearing two tuxiedos.
My first post I have ever read on T-Nation and I meet your Village Idiot 
guy has a point though a 60 lbs chimp can throw a 300 lbs man 10 feet with ease or rip a tire in half. Yeah they have slightly different joints and stuff but basically their muscle structure/system is the same as ours.
humans can have heroic strength when necessary strength is more about overriding our body’s pre-set limits on what it thinks is calorically efficient/prevent joint damage. Because evolutionarily speaking humans were always on the verge of starving to death. Really our muscles are more than large enough to perform all these heavy lifts quite easily.
strength training is just that it trains your strength which is mostly your nervous system. Sure, if you’re bench pressing 800 lbs u might have to pack on some muscle but even a 400 lbs lift most men have the required muscles to do it without any bodybuilding at all.
[quote]Vulf wrote:
My first post I have ever read on T-Nation and I meet your Village Idiot :P[/quote]
No no, you are wrong, you will soon learn that at T-Nation there isnt a Village Idiot, there is a village of Idiots. It is 2 miles from the normal T-people’s village. Unfortunatly they keep scaling our wall.
PS: Is that you in your avatar? If it is, nice work
Look at this sham of a website:
www.closecombattraining.com/
Captain Chris is Awesome!!! lol
First of all, the guy who wrote that shoul’d be kicked in the ass and sent to prison.
And mojo, no offense, but what I understood I that you seemed to be on his side at first, but when you watched to responses you started laughing like all of us. I’m not laughing man, I want to see a fucking pic of the asshole who wrote that. His statements are so rebutable.
[quote]lcsilva wrote:
Vulf wrote:
My first post I have ever read on T-Nation and I meet your Village Idiot
No no, you are wrong, you will soon learn that at T-Nation there isnt a Village Idiot, there is a village of Idiots. It is 2 miles from the normal T-people’s village. Unfortunatly they keep scaling our wall.
PS: Is that you in your avatar? If it is, nice work
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Thank you, yes it is 22 yrs of lifting
THese threads are dumb.
Why even carry on in debate, I didn’t read a word, but can guarentee it’s the same BS arguements posted every other day.
Two things,
I know what I’m doing in the gym and I know how to better myself, so do a lot of you, if someone has written a bunch of bullshit, than no need to defend your theories, you know your better off, no argument can stop you. I like being a minority anyways. If you are a beast of human being, and everyone was a beast, would you actually be considered a beast, or just normal?
If your stupid enough to listen to the advice in the title of this thread, than damn, I hope you fail. Fuck progressive overload man, let me just rep my tv remote 3000 times, and lift my fork to my face all day and ohh boy I’ll be jacked.
Well I’ll make this point too for the idiots.
Yes there are some exceptions to the rule, however, the biggest mother fuckers on the planet are the strongest and most muscular. You will not find some little bastard out pulling Konstantine Konstantinovs, or Andy Bolton, You will not find anyone out pressing Ryan Kennelly or Scot Mendleson. These dudes are huge. KK not as much, but could win bodybuilding shows with that physique. Unless you’re not eating or have a sick CNS and some crazy leverages, your body will be forced to add more muscle as you get stronger. Pro bodybuilders are strong as fuck too.
Put two and two together, the strongest powerlifters are muscular and big as fuck and the biggest bodybuilders are strong as shit…
Now before I start debating like I argued against I’ll stop. Hope y’all remain soy boys.