For Those Who Can't Gain Weight

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[quote]Short Hoss wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:

How you gain fat depends on genetics, Juan. Sergio Oliva, for example, was known to eat whatever he wanted. I have a friend that eats all kind of shit and has made decent progress in the gym.

Makes me a little jealous.[/quote]

Would you think I have that? because when I was skinny fat, it was just belly fat and a little chin. And I ate a lot, pound of beef every day. with a lot of carbs. That is why I am now affraid of eating too much. Maybe, i have to open my mind and adjust my feeding habit to my new life style. and stop been worried of getting fat. because if I continue to train like this, it will be hard to get fat.

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[quote]juanjromero wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:

When you have put on as much mass as we have. I will gladly tip my hat to you when you are where I am. You will have to ask ProfX to get his answer.

Dude, the reason of this site to exist, is to help people smaller than you to reach what you have.
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Juan - you need to shut the hell up and read.

If I had a penny for every time I have told a noob to shut up, lift heavy, and eat big, I would be a millionaire.

Take my advice, or don’t. I don’t care - but you are starting to post too much and say way too little.

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[quote]juanjromero wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:

How you gain fat depends on genetics, Juan. Sergio Oliva, for example, was known to eat whatever he wanted. I have a friend that eats all kind of shit and has made decent progress in the gym.

Makes me a little jealous.

Would you think I have that? because when I was skinny fat, it was just belly fat and a little chin. And I ate a lot, pound of beef every day. with a lot of carbs. That is why I am now affraid of eating too much. Maybe, i have to open my mind and adjust my feeding habit to my new life style. and stop been worried of getting fat. because if I continue to train like this, it will be hard to get fat.[/quote]

A pound of beef is not a lot.

You need to stop fearing fat-gain and start eating more, or you will never get big. If you start to gain more fat than you wanted, then up the intensity and do cardio as I said earlier.

Seriously, if you stay fearful of fat gain, you might as well just accept that you will stay the same weight.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:

When you have put on as much mass as we have. I will gladly tip my hat to you when you are where I am. You will have to ask ProfX to get his answer.

Dude, the reason of this site to exist, is to help people smaller than you to reach what you have.

Juan - you need to shut the hell up and read.

If I had a peeny for every time I have told a noob to shut up, lift heavy, and eat big, I would be a millionaire.

[/quote]

Well, maybe you can help me, because your sentence is like me saying: “I want to look muscular and ripped”. It is just general. Don’t help me to be like you. It just frustrate me.

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[quote]Short Hoss wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:

How you gain fat depends on genetics, Juan. Sergio Oliva, for example, was known to eat whatever he wanted. I have a friend that eats all kind of shit and has made decent progress in the gym.

Makes me a little jealous.

Would you think I have that? because when I was skinny fat, it was just belly fat and a little chin. And I ate a lot, pound of beef every day. with a lot of carbs. That is why I am now affraid of eating too much. Maybe, i have to open my mind and adjust my feeding habit to my new life style. and stop been worried of getting fat. because if I continue to train like this, it will be hard to get fat.

A pound of beef is not a lot.

You need to stop fearing fat-gain and start eating more, or you will never get big. If you start to gain more fat than you wanted, then up the intensity and do cardio as I said earlier.

Seriously, if you stay fearful of fat gain, you might as well just accept that you will stay the same weight.
[/quote]

Yes, now I realize I was affraid of getting fat.
My mind is changing a lot on last week.

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I did what you recommend Short Hoss.

Result: 25lbs of LBM in 8 months. 25lbs of fat. (Without any cardio)

I’m cutting back a bit until I lose some of this fat then I’ll start again.

It works.

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[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
I did what you recommend Short Hoss.

Result: 25lbs of LBM in 8 months. 25lbs of fat.

I’m cutting back a bit until I lose some of this fat then I’ll start again.

It works.

[/quote]

how is that figure? 50pounds half fat?

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[quote]juanjromero wrote:
rainjack wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:

When you have put on as much mass as we have. I will gladly tip my hat to you when you are where I am. You will have to ask ProfX to get his answer.

Dude, the reason of this site to exist, is to help people smaller than you to reach what you have.

Juan - you need to shut the hell up and read.

If I had a peeny for every time I have told a noob to shut up, lift heavy, and eat big, I would be a millionaire.

Well, maybe you can help me, because your sentence is like me saying: “I want to look muscular and ripped”. It is just general. Don’t help me to be like you. It just frustrate me.

[/quote]

Quit thinking and start doing. You can’t be big and ripped without getting big first. You want to both at the same time and, unless you are a genetic freak, that’s not going to happen.

It really doesn’t require that much thought. It does, however, require dedication.

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My 2 cents. If your finances are in order, it is definitely possible to steer clear of fast food and get enough calories.
Not true for someone as poor as I am, so I have to tuck in the occassional hamburger/whopper/whatever (or three) and raid my roommate’s supplement stacks. I just step up the cardio and lift with intensity…trust me, it works.

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[quote]juanjromero wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
I did what you recommend Short Hoss.

Result: 25lbs of LBM in 8 months. 25lbs of fat.

I’m cutting back a bit until I lose some of this fat then I’ll start again.

It works.

how is that figure? 50pounds half fat?[/quote]

He gained 50lbs in 8 months. 25 of that was muscle.

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Juan,

you really need to know when to shut your yapper. Don;t pick fights with a senior member here. Seriously.

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I will. but I don’t understand why he is always saying go get 50 and get back. I am here to learn how to get that 50. Is not this the place?

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
My 2 cents. If your finances are in order, it is definitely possible to steer clear of fast food and get enough calories.
Not true for someone as poor as I am, so I have to tuck in the occassional hamburger/whopper/whatever (or three) and raid my roommate’s supplement stacks. I just step up the cardio and lift with intensity…trust me, it works.[/quote]

It’s not just the financial side.

I know of no one who can get in 4500 calories clean. Do you realize how much food that is?

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[quote]juanjromero wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
Juan,

you really need to know when to shut your yapper. Don;t pick fights with a senior member here. Seriously.

I will. but I don’t understand why he is always saying go get 50 and get back. I am here to learn how to get that 50. Is not this the place?
[/quote]

Because you have no place in giving advice on how to get big. I am not 'always saying to get 50". I say that when someone who weighs 50 less than I do starts trying to give advice on how to gain weight, or add muscle.

If you ask questions, I will answer. If you start trying to hand out advice about a road you have never been on - I tell you to shut up.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
rainjack wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:

When you have put on as much mass as we have. I will gladly tip my hat to you when you are where I am. You will have to ask ProfX to get his answer.

Dude, the reason of this site to exist, is to help people smaller than you to reach what you have.

Juan - you need to shut the hell up and read.

If I had a peeny for every time I have told a noob to shut up, lift heavy, and eat big, I would be a millionaire.

Well, maybe you can help me, because your sentence is like me saying: “I want to look muscular and ripped”. It is just general. Don’t help me to be like you. It just frustrate me.

Quit thinking and start doing. You can’t be big and ripped without getting big first. You want to both at the same time and, unless you are a genetic freak, that’s not going to happen.

It really doesn’t require that much thought. It does, however, require dedication.

[/quote]

Dude, I AM doing, not as much as you, but I WANT to get there and brake my ass on the gym every day. i don’t want to be both. I just try to make you see, that you have an experience to share, but you reject people and don’t help us. I know you could say a couple of thins that will keep me busy by months. but you dont’ share it. It is your right. But then, the whole reason to come here is lost with your words. Just offer your advice, if you think that something is wrong, offer and alternative way.

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No dude, you are in the right place. I;m just saying that rainjack and prof X are waaaaaay more experienced than most of the guys here. Also they don;t hjave a hidden agenda like some of the authors might have. Any information you get from them comes from years of experience combined with brutal honesty and a donn’t care-attitude. Discuss stuff with them but don;t get into a mudslinging fight with a guy who has light years of experience in the game.

[quote]juanjromero wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
Juan,

you really need to know when to shut your yapper. Don;t pick fights with a senior member here. Seriously.

I will. but I don’t understand why he is always saying go get 50 and get back. I am here to learn how to get that 50. Is not this the place?
[/quote]

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
Juan,

you really need to know when to shut your yapper. Don;t pick fights with a senior member here. Seriously.

I will. but I don’t understand why he is always saying go get 50 and get back. I am here to learn how to get that 50. Is not this the place?

Because you have no place in giving advice on how to get big. I am not 'always saying to get 50". I say that when someone who weighs 50 less than I do starts trying to give advice on how to gain weight, or add muscle.

If you ask questions, I will answer. If you start trying to hand out advice about a road you have never been on - I tell you to shut up. [/quote]

Maybe I can make me clear, my point with you is: you know the way, give us the clues to follow you.

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Juan, I have already done it for him. It’s on the first page.

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its been said many many times I have no idea why people have to nit pick this crap.

if you are not gaining then eat.
if you think you are eating then eat more.

but you can not eat and sit I am prime example of that.
I went from gaining muscle to being a quarter fat because i wasnt working as hard

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[quote]juanjromero wrote:
Maybe I can make me clear, my point with you is: you know the way, give us the clues to follow you.[/quote]

There are no clues. There is do and there is don’t. Just do it.

Honestly - you are trying to overthink something that requires very little thought, but a ton of both dedication and discipline. Neither of those two are a secret. It’s just sweat and determination to reach a goal.

You want the down and dirty method? Here you go:

  1. Weigh yourself tomorrow morning.

  2. Write down the weight on a piece of paper.

  3. Multiply your weight by 2. Write it down on the same piece of paper.

  4. Throw away the damn scales, or give them to a friend, but get rid of it one way or another.

  5. Cover up any mirrors you have.

  6. Take the number you wrote down, and eat that many grams of protein every damn day. I don’t care of they come from pig snouts, chicken lips, or the BK lounge. Just get your protein in.

  7. Eat every 2-3 hours.

  8. Train like there is no tomorrow. Pick a proven mass gaining program like 5X5, WS4SB, GVT, I don’t really care, just pick a program, and never take anything home with you. leave it all at the gym. Muscle failure is your friend.

  9. Do this for 45 days.

  10. Day 46 - weigh yourself again.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
juanjromero wrote:
Maybe I can make me clear, my point with you is: you know the way, give us the clues to follow you.

There are no clues. There is do and there is don’t. Just do it.

Honestly - you are trying to overthink something that requires very little thought, but a ton of both dedication and discipline. Neither of those two are a secret. It’s just sweat and determination to reach a goal.

You want the down and dirty method? Here you go:

  1. Weigh yourself tomorrow morning.

  2. Write down the weight on a piece of paper.

  3. Multiply your weight by 2. Write it down on the same piece of paper.

  4. Throw away the damn scales, or give them to a friend, but get rid of it one way or another.

  5. Cover up any mirrors you have.

  6. Take the number you wrote down, and eat that many grams of protein every damn day. I don’t care of they come from pig snouts, chicken lips, or the BK lounge. Just get your protein in.

  7. Eat every 2-3 hours.

  8. Train like there is no tomorrow. Pick a proven mass gaining program like 5X5, WS4SB, GVT, I don’t really care, just pick a program, and never take anything home with you. leave it all at the gym. Muscle failure is your friend.

  9. Do this for 45 days.

  10. Day 46 - weigh yourself again. [/quote]

Thanks buddy, I will add the lapse of time for measures. I already wrote about I have year eating each two hours, but the most I do, I lost fat. That (now i see) is a sign of not eating enough. My problem is: I am already eating a lot of protein, a friend of mine, told me I am shorting too much the carb intake.
I eat potatoes on lunch and salad. spaghetti at night. Oatmeal at breakfast. Shrew nuts for snaks. I eat half pound chicken/meat at lunch, and a little less on dinner. Protein shakes with fruits along day. Raisins for energy. I drink several cups of green tea (beach body remaining) instead of coffee.

Do you see something to adjust?