For the Haters of DW

[quote]edgecrusher wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
Hey edgecrusher, let’s make a deal:

I will admit to being a weak bitch if you stop posting in my threads.

How does that sound?

How about this, you stop posting lamo videos and get an attitude adjustment, and I’ll admit that gravity exists. Seriously, it’s a shame that someone who has honorably served in the United States Military would mar their reputation and potentially squander a God given ability because of pride and arrogance. It’s even sadder that people are encouraging this behavior.[/quote]

You don’t like the videos? Don’t watch them, because you know what? I’M NEVER GOING TO STOP POSTING MY VIDEOS. How do you like them apples?

Also, your username couldn’t be any more unoriginal. Edgecrusher is a Fear Factory song, Mr. Creativity.

[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
edgecrusher wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
Hey edgecrusher, let’s make a deal:

I will admit to being a weak bitch if you stop posting in my threads.

How does that sound?

How about this, you stop posting lamo videos and get an attitude adjustment, and I’ll admit that gravity exists. Seriously, it’s a shame that someone who has honorably served in the United States Military would mar their reputation and potentially squander a God given ability because of pride and arrogance. It’s even sadder that people are encouraging this behavior.

You don’t like the videos? Don’t watch them, because you know what? I’M NEVER GOING TO STOP POSTING MY VIDEOS. How do you like them apples?

Also, your username couldn’t be any more unoriginal. Edgecrusher is a Fear Factory song, Mr. Creativity.[/quote]

Oh snap. You got me there! :-o

[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
You don’t like the videos? Don’t watch them, because you know what? I’M NEVER GOING TO STOP POSTING MY VIDEOS. How do you like them apples?

Also, your username couldn’t be any more unoriginal. Edgecrusher is a Fear Factory song, Mr. Creativity.[/quote]

Did I not just write “…for the record, I very much do enjoy WH Jr’s videos…?”

And as for creativity, I think I’m going to have to use the response I gave you the last time you said my screenname wasn’t creative. Yes, I know, how unoriginal of me.

WH Jr wrote: P.S. - Your username is terribly unoriginal. It’s the name of a Fear Factory song.

edgecrusher wrote: Speaking of originality, ever think about different screennames?
http://fitness-singles.net/unregistered-view.asp?profile_id=200449030535723
(Body Type: Pumped Up!)

[quote]edgecrusher wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
You don’t like the videos? Don’t watch them, because you know what? I’M NEVER GOING TO STOP POSTING MY VIDEOS. How do you like them apples?

Also, your username couldn’t be any more unoriginal. Edgecrusher is a Fear Factory song, Mr. Creativity.

Did I not just write “…for the record, I very much do enjoy WH Jr’s videos…?”

And as for creativity, I think I’m going to have to use the response I gave you the last time you said my screenname wasn’t creative. Yes, I know, how unoriginal of me.

WH Jr wrote: P.S. - Your username is terribly unoriginal. It’s the name of a Fear Factory song.

edgecrusher wrote: Speaking of originality, ever think about different screennames?
http://fitness-singles.net/unregistered-view.asp?profile_id=200449030535723
(Body Type: Pumped Up!)
[/quote]

Where does this association between me and William Hung originate? I don’t get it.

Also, you know that you definitely have an unhealthy DW obsession when you google my username in the desperate hope of trying to embarass me. Get a hobby, a girlfriend or something.

The thing is…

  1. DW gets a lot of good, sound advice… he refuses to listen to any of it, and keeps on “trucking”

  2. DW comes back for more advice…

this leads me to believe that he is only trolling… i can’t see any other reason for him posting here when it is obvious that he doesen’t want any good advice.

[quote]Adamsson wrote:
The thing is…

  1. DW gets a lot of good, sound advice… he refuses to listen to any of it, and keeps on “trucking”

  2. DW comes back for more advice…

this leads me to believe that he is only trolling… i can’t see any other reason for him posting here when it is obvious that he doesen’t want any good advice. [/quote]

are we reading the same thread ? i don’t see any calls for advice or refusals of advice. this thread wasn’t even started by dw.

as for the dw’s pull progress thread, i read some good advice delivered backhanded, which means it comes with an insult attached, direct or implied. and who wants to eat that ? i’d rather starve.

[quote]swivel wrote:
are we reading the same thread ? i don’t see any calls for advice or refusals of advice. this thread wasn’t even started by dw.

as for the dw’s pull progress thread, i read some good advice delivered backhanded, which means it comes with an insult attached, direct or implied. and who wants to eat that ? i’d rather starve.
[/quote]

This above is what I’ve seen. Posts of “Here are videos of my max attempst at lifts X,Y,Z” or “Here is a training video.”

Most advice delivered is included with insults, and even if advice doesn’t include an insult there are so many insults interspersed through-out that it would take the patience of a saint to wade through and not have a chip on one’s shoulder by the end. I was impressed that DW attempted to respond to several people that didn’t deliver insults with the advice in a cordial manner.

Sometimes people just post videos to show what they can do, not for advice. I post videos of competitions I am in, on other sites I also post some training videos. Sometimes I post them just to show what I’m up to, sometimes it is for advice, and sometimes it is for purely narcissitic purposes.

Regards,

Sensless

[quote]sensless wrote:
swivel wrote:
are we reading the same thread ? i don’t see any calls for advice or refusals of advice. this thread wasn’t even started by dw.

as for the dw’s pull progress thread, i read some good advice delivered backhanded, which means it comes with an insult attached, direct or implied. and who wants to eat that ? i’d rather starve.

This above is what I’ve seen. Posts of “Here are videos of my max attempst at lifts X,Y,Z” or “Here is a training video.”

Most advice delivered is included with insults, and even if advice doesn’t include an insult there are so many insults interspersed through-out that it would take the patience of a saint to wade through and not have a chip on one’s shoulder by the end. I was impressed that DW attempted to respond to several people that didn’t deliver insults with the advice in a cordial manner.

Sometimes people just post videos to show what they can do, not for advice. I post videos of competitions I am in, on other sites I also post some training videos. Sometimes I post them just to show what I’m up to, sometimes it is for advice, and sometimes it is for purely narcissitic purposes.

Regards,

Sensless
[/quote]

I see what both of you are saying, but DW needs to remember that when you post a video, you are setting yourself up for any comments, critiques, and smart remarks people chose to say. No one is untouchable here and that’s part of the reason I like it here. I love the teenage, immature humor.

At the same time, DW has taken more than his share of a beating. I think the bashing he gets now is due to his reputation. His posts in the past came with arrogance and excessive ego. He has changed, but he his is still far too defensive.

No matter what video gets posted, people are going to criticize it, and most of these people have no qualification to critique. Fred Hatfield could post some squatting videos and half of T-Nation would point out what he did “wrong.” DW needs to remember that. Don’t take every comment so personally.

DW, you know you’re busting your ass, forget everyone else. You don’t need a comeback for every comment made about you.

Dude,

I just watched your video from your strongman comp and I tink you did a great job. You seem to be a tough competitor with a lot of heart. Keep it up.

[quote]nhiron wrote:
Dude,

I just watched your video from your strongman comp and I tink you did a great job. You seem to be a tough competitor with a lot of heart. Keep it up. [/quote]

Thanks.

T…S…B

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
T…S…B[/quote]

If you have nothing nice to say…

I am impressed with some of his strength at his weight but his form fucking sucks. If there are no rules against bad form in strongman then who gives a shit how he moves the weight? If he gets hurt because of poor form then he has himself to thank. If he does not want to listen to contructive criticism that may actually help him perform even better then he is only holding himself back.

As far as the attitude goes. I will be the first to tell you, fuck everyone who is negative for the sake of being negative. But some of the stuff people have to tell you may actually help. Sometimes it is ok to be humble and still be a fucking animal.

Why is there a need to raise coin? If you and Jesse are best buddies now, cant he just shell out the 450 for the plane ticket?

[quote]malonetd wrote:
sensless wrote:
swivel wrote:
are we reading the same thread ? i don’t see any calls for advice or refusals of advice. this thread wasn’t even started by dw.

as for the dw’s pull progress thread, i read some good advice delivered backhanded, which means it comes with an insult attached, direct or implied. and who wants to eat that ? i’d rather starve.

This above is what I’ve seen. Posts of “Here are videos of my max attempst at lifts X,Y,Z” or “Here is a training video.”

Most advice delivered is included with insults, and even if advice doesn’t include an insult there are so many insults interspersed through-out that it would take the patience of a saint to wade through and not have a chip on one’s shoulder by the end. I was impressed that DW attempted to respond to several people that didn’t deliver insults with the advice in a cordial manner.

Sometimes people just post videos to show what they can do, not for advice. I post videos of competitions I am in, on other sites I also post some training videos. Sometimes I post them just to show what I’m up to, sometimes it is for advice, and sometimes it is for purely narcissitic purposes.

Regards,

Sensless

I see what both of you are saying, but DW needs to remember that when you post a video, you are setting yourself up for any comments, critiques, and smart remarks people chose to say. No one is untouchable here and that’s part of the reason I like it here. I love the teenage, immature humor.

At the same time, DW has taken more than his share of a beating. I think the bashing he gets now is due to his reputation. His posts in the past came with arrogance and excessive ego. He has changed, but he his is still far too defensive.

No matter what video gets posted, people are going to criticize it, and most of these people have no qualification to critique. Fred Hatfield could post some squatting videos and half of T-Nation would point out what he did “wrong.” DW needs to remember that. Don’t take every comment so personally.

DW, you know you’re busting your ass, forget everyone else. You don’t need a comeback for every comment made about you.[/quote]

[quote]sensless wrote:
swivel wrote:
are we reading the same thread ? i don’t see any calls for advice or refusals of advice. this thread wasn’t even started by dw.

as for the dw’s pull progress thread, i read some good advice delivered backhanded, which means it comes with an insult attached, direct or implied. and who wants to eat that ? i’d rather starve.

This above is what I’ve seen. Posts of “Here are videos of my max attempst at lifts X,Y,Z” or “Here is a training video.”

Most advice delivered is included with insults, and even if advice doesn’t include an insult there are so many insults interspersed through-out that it would take the patience of a saint to wade through and not have a chip on one’s shoulder by the end. I was impressed that DW attempted to respond to several people that didn’t deliver insults with the advice in a cordial manner.

Sometimes people just post videos to show what they can do, not for advice. I post videos of competitions I am in, on other sites I also post some training videos. Sometimes I post them just to show what I’m up to, sometimes it is for advice, and sometimes it is for purely narcissitic purposes.

Regards,

Sensless
[/quote]

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=645282&pageNo=0#645282

This is people’s first experience of DW. This is why there will always be backlash towards him. Read through all of the pages and see if you could tell why some people are put off by him. Sure there are some people that will just hammer him no matter what for whatever reason but there are others that tried to help him and he went after them. Not everybody is trying to be a dick when the see him post its the fact the have had experience with him before and wont even entertain the notion of helping him again.

[quote]PGA200X wrote:
sensless wrote:
swivel wrote:
are we reading the same thread ? i don’t see any calls for advice or refusals of advice. this thread wasn’t even started by dw.

as for the dw’s pull progress thread, i read some good advice delivered backhanded, which means it comes with an insult attached, direct or implied. and who wants to eat that ? i’d rather starve.

This above is what I’ve seen. Posts of “Here are videos of my max attempst at lifts X,Y,Z” or “Here is a training video.”

Most advice delivered is included with insults, and even if advice doesn’t include an insult there are so many insults interspersed through-out that it would take the patience of a saint to wade through and not have a chip on one’s shoulder by the end. I was impressed that DW attempted to respond to several people that didn’t deliver insults with the advice in a cordial manner.

Sometimes people just post videos to show what they can do, not for advice. I post videos of competitions I am in, on other sites I also post some training videos. Sometimes I post them just to show what I’m up to, sometimes it is for advice, and sometimes it is for purely narcissitic purposes.

Regards,

Sensless

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=645282&pageNo=0#645282

This is people’s first experience of DW. This is why there will always be backlash towards him. Read through all of the pages and see if you could tell why some people are put off by him. Sure there are some people that will just hammer him no matter what for whatever reason but there are others that tried to help him and he went after them. Not everybody is trying to be a dick when the see him post its the fact the have had experience with him before and wont even entertain the notion of helping him again.[/quote]

I already posted the link to that thread, earlier in this thread. Yeah, I’m a terrible person; we know that. Move on.

http://www.guidoandluigi.com/strips/2006-06-03.jpg

[quote]carandrew wrote:
http://www.guidoandluigi.com/strips/2006-06-03.jpg[/quote]

haha i love that comic, how relevant!

[quote]carandrew wrote:
http://www.guidoandluigi.com/strips/2006-06-03.jpg[/quote]

That comic has been on my myspace for a while. :smiley:

[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
If he gets hurt because of poor form then he has himself to thank. If he does not want to listen to contructive criticism that may actually help him perform even better then he is only holding himself back.
[/quote]

I completely agree with this. He has disregarded and dismissed a lot of helpful criticism. If he gets hurt, it’s his fault. So let him get hurt, maybe he’ll learn then. Even Jesse has told him to lower his weights. I don’t follow his log, and I haven’t seen any recent videos so I don’t know if he listened.