For All the 'Hardgainers'

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Didnt realize Fish was a type of Beef. I kinda believe that hes on the Roids aswell. 4 years ago he had a pretty record then magically,almost instantly,he gained 20-30 pounds and starts getting mroe aggressive and wins?[/quote]

Are you serious with this bullshit?

If you are NOT making gains like that, you suck at this. I mean, damn I gained around 40lbs my first year lifting.[/quote]
Allow me to explain first and foremost that Overeem is a FIGHTER not a BODYBUILDER. His profession is that of fighting and beating opponents,not gaining weight and muscle. There is even reports from reputable sources that Overeem is on HGH. Overeem To Face Fedor: Over-Juiced, Overrated, and Out of His Mind | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

Fighting in a Organization such as DREAM and K-1,there are no off Season or On Season like it is in Bodybuilding. You cant just build 40 pounds of muscle in a year like you claim. He has to maintained his level of strength but also speed,agility,technique and stamina and steadily improve. Its extra hardwork to move up in a weight class and at the very heaviest at that.[/quote]

Really? How do you know it’s impossible to build 40 pounds of muscle? Are you an elite athlete?

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Didnt realize Fish was a type of Beef. I kinda believe that hes on the Roids aswell. 4 years ago he had a pretty record then magically,almost instantly,he gained 20-30 pounds and starts getting mroe aggressive and wins?[/quote]

Are you serious with this bullshit?

If you are NOT making gains like that, you suck at this. I mean, damn I gained around 40lbs my first year lifting.[/quote]
Allow me to explain first and foremost that Overeem is a FIGHTER not a BODYBUILDER. His profession is that of fighting and beating opponents,not gaining weight and muscle. There is even reports from reputable sources that Overeem is on HGH. Overeem To Face Fedor: Over-Juiced, Overrated, and Out of His Mind | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

Fighting in a Organization such as DREAM and K-1,there are no off Season or On Season like it is in Bodybuilding. You cant just build 40 pounds of muscle in a year like you claim. He has to maintained his level of strength but also speed,agility,technique and stamina and steadily improve. Its extra hardwork to move up in a weight class and at the very heaviest at that.[/quote]

Why do you think anyone cares whether he used steroids or not? I don’t give a shit. His gains are not, I repeat NOT, that damn impressive for that to even be an issue here.

All the man does is eat, sleep, and train with the goal of getting bigger. If you think that type of gain shown in the pictures over years NEEDS steroids even with how he trains you are not very experienced.

The only reason some of you keep bringing this up is to make yourselves feel better. It has NOTHING to do with this thread or this topic.

All I know is that video made me really fucking hungry.

Who cares if he takes steroids. He can shoot up all he wants if he didn’t eat like a champ he would have never gained that much size.

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Didnt realize Fish was a type of Beef. I kinda believe that hes on the Roids aswell. 4 years ago he had a pretty record then magically,almost instantly,he gained 20-30 pounds and starts getting mroe aggressive and wins?[/quote]

Are you serious with this bullshit?

If you are NOT making gains like that, you suck at this. I mean, damn I gained around 40lbs my first year lifting.[/quote]
Allow me to explain first and foremost that Overeem is a FIGHTER not a BODYBUILDER. His profession is that of fighting and beating opponents,not gaining weight and muscle. There is even reports from reputable sources that Overeem is on HGH. Overeem To Face Fedor: Over-Juiced, Overrated, and Out of His Mind | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

Fighting in a Organization such as DREAM and K-1,there are no off Season or On Season like it is in Bodybuilding. You cant just build 40 pounds of muscle in a year like you claim [/quote] How would you know? How many fighters actually try to do that rather than add strength/size slowly (if at all) ? Hey, he could be on gear… Or not… I wouldn’t know… Neither would you unless I’m mistaken.
He was a tiny guy at the beginning. 30 lbs even with a significant workload of sports work is no big deal for someone first starting to eat and train properly (especially if he really goes the extra mile with his diet). Most beginners doing this right can go from 120 to 180-200 lbs in their first year (the more underweight you are, the more you’ll likely end up gaining when doing everything right) when focusing on this as powerlifters, strongmen (might be a bit more tricky depending on how much event work they do) and bodybuilders, so it’s hardly a stretch that someone who does MMA will be able to gain 30 lbs… 80 would be a real bloody feat due to the added workload, and in such a time-frame would likely be way too much to allow the fighter to stay fast etc… But 30? Come on. [quote] He has to maintained his level of strength but also speed,agility,technique and stamina and steadily improve. Its extra hardwork to move up in a weight class and at the very heaviest at that.[/quote]

How do you know what his exact approach was? Maybe he lost some speed at first but regained/improved it afterwards? Maybe going from underweight to somewhat above average in whatever timeframe he did it simply did not cause any great speed/skill loss? I can see someone having problems when gainin 50+ lbs in a year or so while trying to maintain speed, skill and conditioning, but 30?

And maintaining strength? Huh? Do we now lose strength while getting bigger? You’d think he got stronger during his “bulking” phase… And if lack of strength was holding his speed back, then gaining strength would have helped him get faster, too.