[quote]Voluminous wrote:
So CT,
If I was silly enough to bet a bottle of Indigo on attaining one of the below goals by end of 2014 (Bauber’s 10 goal)
KG’s:
Bench: 1201 - require 2251
Squat: 1801 - require 2651
Dead: 2001 - require 3201
Push Press: 1001 - require 185*1
It strikes me that speccing the 4 would get me to the goal in the fastest time; if the focus was purely on strength numbers ? Would also have a SGHP day, as I love that exercise.
Was going to alternate the Death by with normal layer outlined while back (1RM, 80% 9 mins, Carries)…
Either which, twill be one hell of a challenge to get 1.[/quote]
I hate to be negative, but I don’t see any of these goals as being realistic, even with the best program and nutrition. The number on the right are world class numbers that very very few lifters can hope to achieve in their lifetime. Don’t merely look at the amount of improvement but at the “finished lift”… the number on on right in all cases are world class lifts that few people even have the potential to reach in their lifetime. Sometimes we get a false idea of what is possible from looking at records… with the bench shirts, squat suits and steroids/growth hormone all the records are so high that we get a warped perception of what i possible.
I do not know many people who can do a 225kg bench press without a bench shirt. In my life I’ve seen maybe 4 or 5 and they were all above 120kg in bodyweight and not fat… one was Canada’s strongest man, one was a pro football player. And I only saw 2 that were not using drugs: the football player (but the guy was a freak who benched 140kg during his first 3 months of training when he was 15) and an amateur strongman (also with good genetics, his father went to the world championships in olympic lifting in 1982) but it took him many many many years of focusing on his bench press to get there.
The push press is the least realistic IMHO. Yeah it’s “only” a 85kg increase but the ceiling for that lift is lower. Seriously a 180kg push press would put you in the world elite. Maybe one person out of a million has the genetics to do that without drugs. And going from two plates per side to 4 plates per side on that lift in one year, or even two is not realistic.
The deadlift of 320kg is technically a more achievable lift. I’ve seen many people do more than that at a fairly young age. But it would certainly require more than one year to go from 200kg to 320kg.
I know that you are probably using what happened with my high pull to estimate that these are possible. But keep in mind that the high pull is more of a technical and power lift, it’s not that much of a strength movement. Yes I did increase my power and strength in those 3 weeks, BUT a vast portion of the increase in poundage was due to improved technique (Tim Patterson and I spent hours experimenting and discussing perfect technique) and improved neural efficiency.
When doing a spec program you do the lift daily or almost. A lot of the rapid gains are due to an improvement in technique and technical efficiency/neural efficiency. The sad thing is that these have a very low ceiling: you can always increase strength but when you have a perfectly efficient technique you can’t get grains from further improvements in technique. For that reason you cannot duplicate the increase you get from your first spec block in subsequent blocks… you cannot think that because you added 20kg on a lift during a spec block you will get the same increase, or even half the increase the next time you do such a block. For example, yeah I went from 125 to 180kg in 3 weeks. But even if I continued doing spec blocks for the high pull I doubt that I would ever get to 200kg in my lifetime.
Another thing is that every spec program takes a HUGE toll on your CNS. I know it took me a few weeks to recover from the high pull spec. So it’s not like you can go all year going from one spec to the next, you’ll burn out within 2 months.
I hate to rain on your parade but I honestly don’t see these goals happening. But then again stranger things have happened and anyway, you’ll get great gains just trying to get those goals.
The only semi-realitic one is the squat, and even then that’s quite a challenge. a 260kg squat might not seem that high when you look at the world records… but if that 260kg is done properly… a full squat, ass to grass, without a squat suit or knee wraps that 260 is a very impressive lift. I’m build for squatting and my best ever squat was 260kg and that was done when I was competing as an olympic lifter.
