I have been reading interviews and watching lots of old Flex vids lately. One of the most gifted and most aesthetically pleasing bodybuilders IMHO.My questions are these:
Flex seems to contradict himself in alot of interviews. One interview he says he hates Weider supplements, then he signs with them. He says he trains with Shawn Ray, then he says SR is a self-centered asshole.
I cannot help but notice the significant improvement in Flex’s calves prior to the 99 British Grand Prix (which Flex looked AMAZING at). Does anyone have the final word on calf implants? I know Shawn Ray told the Olympia committee Flex had implants, but X-rays were negative? Any proof of any of this???
Also, he was accused of large amounts of synthol injections in his hams and deltoids around 1997-2000. Any help or links on how extensive his use was? I know synthol use took off during this period and I just wanted to know if anyone else had any information.
I’m not saying this to offend you… But what benefit do you gain if you knew if he used synthol or not? spend time worrying about your training and nutrition rather than controversy.
He might seem like an asshole with attitude (which is what i see from his interviews) but i’m sure in person he is normal just like me and you. Just give the guy the benefit of the doubt and leave him alone.
Hey my man…There was a guy I thought was a total beast on this very site. He even inspired me a little bit he is so massive. So I do some searching on some other threads and BOOM…I see him talking about steroids and how he gets them legally, and that admiration turned to disgust. My point is look at your hero too closely and you may lose respect for him.
[quote]Hussayn wrote:
I’m not saying this to offend you… But what benefit do you gain if you knew if he used synthol or not? spend time worrying about your training and nutrition rather than controversy.
He might seem like an asshole with attitude (which is what i see from his interviews) but i’m sure in person he is normal just like me and you. Just give the guy the benefit of the doubt and leave him alone.[/quote]
I’ve just always felt that he really got hosed never winning an Olympia and was wondering if perhaps these were the reasons behind it. Really, I was asking the question behind the question. Why didn’t Flex ever win an Olympia? Was it bias from the judges, or did he “cheat” enough that even the judges at the Olympia held it against him.
I certainly don’t spend time worrying about it, but I thought it was alright to be curious about things in between eating and training. Maybe not?
In my opinion because he was getting dwarfed onstage by Dorian and then Ronnie(and it’s a big mans show) and often times couldn’t get dried out from the back.
He had a fantastic look but the Olympia has been about the freaks for a long time, and the whole “you’ve got to knock out the champ to win” attitude which I don’t like.
[quote]The Bambino wrote:
Hussayn wrote:
I’m not saying this to offend you… But what benefit do you gain if you knew if he used synthol or not? spend time worrying about your training and nutrition rather than controversy.
He might seem like an asshole with attitude (which is what i see from his interviews) but i’m sure in person he is normal just like me and you. Just give the guy the benefit of the doubt and leave him alone.
I’ve just always felt that he really got hosed never winning an Olympia and was wondering if perhaps these were the reasons behind it. Really, I was asking the question behind the question. Why didn’t Flex ever win an Olympia? Was it bias from the judges, or did he “cheat” enough that even the judges at the Olympia held it against him.
I certainly don’t spend time worrying about it, but I thought it was alright to be curious about things in between eating and training. Maybe not?
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politics, how about when levrone lost to yates who had a torn bicep it’s bullshit and that’s why levrone is known as the uncrowned mr. olympia.
If you trained with Shawn Ray, then he came out and told your secrets to the public you probably wouldn’t like him anymore either. And if you hated weider supplements, but then they paid you a shit load of money to promote them you would sign with them too. Where theres smoke theres fire but if you can’t find the proof on the internet somewhere i doubt anybody on here can verify those facts.
And don’t be ashamed to have a hobby or wonder, when it’s time to train it’s time to train, if you want to figure out if somebody uses synthol go ahead who gives a fuck!
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
And don’t be ashamed to have a hobby or wonder, when it’s time to train it’s time to train, if you want to figure out if somebody uses synthol go ahead who gives a fuck! [/quote]
I wasn’t ashamed. I was being a smartass. If I’m interested in something, I’m sure as hell not going to let someone else tell me not to be.
[quote]triple-10sets wrote:
Hey my man…There was a guy I thought was a total beast on this very site. He even inspired me a little bit he is so massive. So I do some searching on some other threads and BOOM…I see him talking about steroids and how he gets them legally, and that admiration turned to disgust. My point is look at your hero too closely and you may lose respect for him. [/quote]
OMG, that story is even sadder than little Benjamin’s who was born with no arms and legs and all he ever wanted to do was play baseball with his brothers. A role model was lost forever that day folks.
[quote]triple-10sets wrote:
Hey my man…There was a guy I thought was a total beast on this very site. He even inspired me a little bit he is so massive. So I do some searching on some other threads and BOOM…I see him talking about steroids and how he gets them legally, and that admiration turned to disgust. My point is look at your hero too closely and you may lose respect for him. [/quote]
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
If you trained with Shawn Ray, then he came out and told your secrets to the public you probably wouldn’t like him anymore either. And if you hated weider supplements, but then they paid you a shit load of money to promote them you would sign with them too. Where theres smoke theres fire but if you can’t find the proof on the internet somewhere i doubt anybody on here can verify those facts.
And don’t be ashamed to have a hobby or wonder, when it’s time to train it’s time to train, if you want to figure out if somebody uses synthol go ahead who gives a fuck! [/quote]
There’s no need to be a jerk to the guy. He was just curious about it.
[quote]Hussayn wrote:
I’m not saying this to offend you… But what benefit do you gain if you knew if he used synthol or not? spend time worrying about your training and nutrition rather than controversy.
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Some people are allowed to have lives beyond their training and nutrition. Plus this is a BODYBUILDING forum. So I shouldn’t talk about my Yankees’ upcoming season because it means that I wouldn’t be focusing on my lifting and diet 24/7?
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I doubt Wheeler ever did synthol. He already had the best symmetry before synthol became popular and the point of synthol is to enhance your symmetry. He kept losing because he was too small compared to Yates and then Ronnie.
Last I heard he was with another supplement company and training to be all-natural. I’d be interested to see the end result of that… just to see how good his genes are supposed to be and how much muscle he’ll be able to keep without steroids.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
Last I heard he was with another supplement company and training to be all-natural. I’d be interested to see the end result of that… just to see how good his genes are supposed to be and how much muscle he’ll be able to keep without steroids.[/quote]
Lee Priest did that for a show. I don’t remember which one but I’m sure a quick google search will uncover it if you’re interested.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
Hussayn wrote:
I’m not saying this to offend you… But what benefit do you gain if you knew if he used synthol or not? spend time worrying about your training and nutrition rather than controversy.
Some people are allowed to have lives beyond their training and nutrition. Plus this is a BODYBUILDING forum. So I shouldn’t talk about my Yankees’ upcoming season because it means that I wouldn’t be focusing on my lifting and diet 24/7?
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What i meant was instead of worrying about such a small thing, spend that energy on something more useful. But what the hell do i know?
