Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 2)

[tlgains]

Do you believe people are incapable of doing so?

[jshaving]

@cyclonengineer

Who steals from a grocery store when food stamp allowance is higher than my weekly food budget?

Much of the time, food stamps are really not that much. And they can be lost or reduced very easily.

My only semi-political post in this fun, flame-free thread is that pretty much all forms of welfare are usually nowhere near as beneficial as people often make them out to be.

I will die on this hill, haha. But I like you, @cyclonengineer, not trying to start an argument or anything.

@tlgains

Do you believe people are incapable of doing so?

Yes. Humans are inherently flawed and will never create a perfect world.

But now back to the fun stuff.

[tlgains]

@jshaving

Yes. Humans are inherently flawed and will never create a perfect world.

Why not try to get closer to that though?

[T3hPwnisher]

I believe there are MANY problems that cannot be solved with merely time, money and intellect, yes. And this is one of them.

Or, if nothing else, not resources that exist at a Walmart level. The amount of resources Walmart would need to invest to deter theft to a meaningful degree would rapidly outpace profits lost from theft itself.

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

@tlgains

Why not try to get closer to that

How do you propose to do this, specifically?

It’s painfully optimistic to think you can entice others to share your vision for the world.

[tlgains]

Looking out for other people is a start (not to a degree where you don’t look out for yourself).

I kind of already do that

[Bauber]

@tlgains

According to internet searches, Walmart is not like that at all

I worked at Walmart for 2 years during undergrad.

They didn’t treat me poorly. I was making $20 an hour when I left, but I actually always showed up and did my job and learned new jobs. We had a turnover rate of 80+% and what I saw were lazy entitled people no call / no showing, showing up late, not showing up at all, refusing to do menial tasks of their job correctly, etc. So, that is bullshit. I was already being put on the assistant manager track, but I did not want to work at Walmart my entire life. It was a steppingstone for me.

@tlgains

I don’t know what kind of business/businesses you run, but I recall you stating that you treat your employees well

Multiple - trucking, storefronts, service. I treat GOOD employees well. Ones that actually show up and do their job. I am sure there are former employees out there talking shit about my companies too that were lazy sacks of shit and fired.

@tlgains

provide a good service to your customers.

Walmart is literally a store where you go pick up your own stuff. I have never gone to Walmart thinking oh I am coming here for the service!

[tlgains]

@Bauber

We had a turnover rate of 80+% and what I saw were lazy entitled people no call / no showing, showing up late, not showing up at all, refusing to do menial tasks of their job correctly, etc.

Okay you make a great point, I can stand those character traits either.

[Bauber]

@tlgains

Businesses run America and have such a huge impact on people’s lives. Why does it always have to be about profit, I’m sure there’s a way to keep these rich unhinged lizards, and the consumers (common folk) happy at the same time.

Businesses exist only for profit. Do you work for the betterment of mankind and no pay? Why would you expect businesses to?

[Bauber]

@cyclonengineer

Who steals from a grocery store when food stamp allowance is higher than my weekly food budget?

Man, you would be surprised. One of my close friends has worked for Kroger for 25 years. He is a regional manager now for them in my area. Their theft is insane.

[tlgains]

@Bauber

Businesses exist only for profit. Do you work for the betterment of mankind and no pay? Why would you expect businesses to?

I don’t expect them to, it’d just be cool if the extremely large ones did, don’t you agree?

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

@tlgains

it’d just be cool if the extremely large ones did

It’s easy to philanthropize someone else’s money.

[tlgains]

I have no power over businesses so I can’t get them to do anything.

[Bauber]

@tlgains

I don’t expect them to, it’d just be cool if the extremely large ones did, don’t you agree?

No. Why would that be cool?

Why do you want to give people things for free? We see how well that has worked out in just about every scenario.

[anna_5588]

I confess that my “chill” last semester is about to be a lot less chill than anticipated. I’m “auditing” graph theory and a friend roped me into studying higher level real analysis with him

[tlgains]

@Bauber

Why do you want to give people things for free?

I don’t know, this is a confusing topic.

It’s bad to give things for free, but inflation sucks

Wages may or may not support inflation, but someone could probably work hard enough to get out of such a situation.

I really don’t know tbh

[anna_5588]

@tlgains

but inflation sucks

Say that louder

[Bauber]

@anna_5588

Say that louder

@tlgains

inflation sucks

AMEN AND AMEN.

[T3hPwnisher]

@tlgains

I really don’t know tbh

This is the way to Socrates. It’s a good way.

[cyclonengineer]

@anna_5588

I’m “auditing” graph theory and a friend roped me into studying higher level real analysis

Why do you do this to yourself?